Bond Steroid Use Chronicled (I know theres a baseball forum but this trancends it)

[CharlieMac]

bottom line,


it wasnt illegal up until last year to do steroids.


will this cripple baseball? no.

I think most everyone already assumed that Bonds and many others were on stuff...

This era will be one that is heavily scrutinized and will recieve the ole * next to the era.

Big deal.

Baseball will survive.

Maybe it wasn't illegal with MLB, but steroids have been illegal with federal law for a while now.

But yeah, I'm afraid baseball will survive. People pay money to see homeruns, and sadly, that's all that matters. Much like in the NBA, the general, unappreciative mainstream fan doesn't wanty to see great defense, they just wanna see Kobe or Amare dunk.

[SequSpur]

Maybe it wasn't illegal with MLB, but steroids have been illegal with federal law for a while now.

But yeah, I'm afraid baseball will survive. People pay money to see homeruns, and sadly, that's all that matters. Much like in the NBA, the general, unappreciative mainstream fan doesn't wanty to see great defense, they just wanna see Kobe or Amare dunk.

Some steroids are FDA approved.

[ShoogarBear]

Not on that, but my understanding is that they were using new synthetic products that hadn't been made illegal yet.

Technically, if MLB tried to punish these guys, they might be able to sue since a) it wasn't illegal, and b) there was no baseball rule against it.

[timvp]

Some steroids are FDA approved.

Human Growth Hormone Forum.

[Corky Sosa]

I like de gane. I an hitteeng de ball very hard. I like de Mark Maawyher, he heeteeng de ball bery hard in de gane. bye bye

[SequSpur]

Not on that, but my understanding is that they were using new synthetic products that hadn't been made illegal yet.

Technically, if MLB tried to punish these guys, they might be able to sue since a) it wasn't illegal, and b) there was no baseball rule against it.

Exactly.... I also wouldn't be surprised if people in the NBA didn't use it either.....

[King]

You can't strip records, because they didn't do anything wrong under baseball's rules. Yeah, it's illegal, fine - but you can't do anything to baseball's history because of violation of a state/fed law. If you do, wipe the records of anyone who's ever driven drunk or had a gun charge - because those are just as illegal in baseball as steroids were. Which is not at all.

Besides, how do you know how much steroids entered into anything? Yeah, it made him stronger. It didn't control his bat control, plate discipline, natural strength, bat speed, etc. It was one of many factors that made him/them so damn good. A doesn't equal X. A+B+C+D+E+F = X.

What about all the guys who took amphetamines? Corked bats? Scuffed a ball? Extended the batters box? Do you wipe every number ever ac ulated by any of them? You don't know what was legit and what wasn't. You put a policy in place where there should have been one before, and you move forward. It sucks that there wasn't a policy against steroids in place a long time ago to curb this, but there wasn't, and it is what it is.

[T Park]

Don't strip the records of Mcgwire, Sosa, and Bonds.

Then baseball will continue to be the laughingstock of sports.

[Trainwreck2100]

This is why if someone is going to use steroids they have to use steroids earlier in life, the ones that survive could come into the mlb and be great, and they are already big, so they can just stay at the level they are at.

[King]

Don't strip the records of Mcgwire, Sosa, and Bonds.

Then baseball will continue to be the laughingstock of sports.

Check out the NFL CBA meetings and tell me who's the laughing stock. Fans will still be fans, regardless. You can't strip the records, because then you set a very dangerous precedent. You accept that you should've had a much stricter policy, create one, and move forward. What's done is done.