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TPark is starting to panic, it must be close to playoff time
Beno is now going to cost the Spurs the championship? Man, I came down hard on him last year, but you gotta give the guy credit for improving quite a bit.
I have more faith in him this year than I did last year. He's going to see pressure, and I think he'll do better against it with some experience.
I hope Nick Van Exel is ready to go eventually, but I'm not upset with the prospect of having Beno in there. Not in the least.
TPark is starting to panic, it must be close to playoff time
Good move. NVE's injuries notwithstanding, Beno has clearly been the better player up to this point in the season. Even if he's healthy and regardless of his legendary reputation, I'm not expecting much from NVE in the playoffs. I simply think his tank is empty.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 03-10-2006 at 06:24 AM.
I'm not sure I want NVE in at all for the rest of the season if he requires surgery. Might be time to sign a backup PG not named Mike Wilkes. With Udrih, Barry, and Manu capable of running the point I wouldn't be worried about this until April.
wilks plays for the cavs, unless he got cut recently.
's yea its a great thing
YOU to all the blind sheep that still live in the past thinking NVE is still a good player. NVE is done and typical bull like below aint gonna bring him back no matter how hard you believe
but you go on believing that sheep...just like you still believe Bush didnt lie to you about......well just about everything
I don't know if I would call it good news, injuries are never cool. I think it's good that Beno is getting some extended playing time so we can see what he brings to the table. I think it's good that we're 3 deep at PG so we can rest NVE for the play-offs. Hopefully what we get from this is a more savvy Beno who can work some of his kinks out (he's still a young player) and a rested NVE ready to prove himself in the play-offs.
yeah and bush is the first politician to lie, yeah YEAH. maybe if the democratic party wasn't totally incompetent and lazy we would have a different lying puppet in the white house!
Beno will be much steadier this year in the playoffs - remember, last year was his rookie year. He's gonna be fine this year.
I agree with you the Dems are no better...but at least their lies dont result in our youth being killed to show world that we need to be its police
vote independent
I really hope NVE gets healthy...but I guess my plan (stated right when we signed NVE) of resting him until March then slowly working him into the line up was stupid and would never have worked.
sorry, can't resist the Simpsons quote...
GO AHEAD, THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY
He got shipped to Seattle for Flip Murray. I think he's still with the Sonics.
Here's the best part of this situation: You don't have to make your playoff roster tomorrow! Beno looked great last night but that was against the Suns. The Spurs will have two months of games before the playoffs to take a good look and make their decision. What little I've seen of Beno it seems like he's improved his energy and offensive aggressiveness from last year. If he gets consistent minutes over the course of the remaining games he might make believers of all of us.
As far as NVE goes, the Spurs got him for his rep as a playoff difference maker, not for regular season heroics, so it makes sense to sit him til then. While injuries are never a good thing, it's about time the coaching staff realized that what he's doing now is not going to help the Spurs. If anything it's long overdue. I don't what Spur I've yelled at through my TV screen the most this year but Nick's easily in the top three.
What Obstructed_View, MannyIsGod and Spurs_fan_in_exile said.
I think it's a great thing. I think Beno needs the minutes and Nicky needs the rest. I think my heart can't take his bricking up bad shot after bad shot. I think Beno isn't going to get any better sitting on the bench instead of facing those press situations. I think my husband would like to be able to watch a game without earplugs so he doesn't have to listen to me screaming at Van Ex.
If NVE can contribute in the playoffs, great. If his elbow is as bad as it sounds, then the rest will help things. If it means playing time and experience for Beno, great.
One other thing in answer to a couple of Tpark's points. I do not think that a run in March is equal to playoff time and teams. But Beno playing in March sure as is better preparation than riding the pine. Also, your statement about it being bad news if we want to win a championship? Someone did inform you after you jumped ship and quit on the team that they won the championship right? And you do remember that was with Beno as back up pg, and NVE playing for another team, right? Clearly, it can be done.
T Park = OWNED!!!Someone did inform you after you jumped ship and quit on the team that they won the championship right? And you do remember that was with Beno as back up pg, and NVE playing for another team, right? Clearly, it can be done.
TPARK needs to calm down just a bit. The Spurs can win a championship without NVE because they've done it three times w/out him. Having NVE is good, but Beno has been pretty good this season. He has been consistent from the outside. I would like to have them both in the playoffs. I think NVE being hurt is bad. I think having Beno as a backup is good, but having both is better.
Nick of the 03 WCF/Mavs is long gone.
No matter how much T_pork, liar and quitter and 360-degree gratuitious insulter, fantasizes that the current Nick is the 03 Nick, it's just his fantasy.
Bone spurs don't normally go away, and in Nick's case, it seems they've decided surgical removal is the only way. The bone spur pain stops him from playing now, and the bone spur pain will stop him from playing in April-June. I figure he's done for the year, and maybe for his career.
Give Beno all the minutes he needs to get in full game-shape for the playoffs. Manu and Brent can also bring the ball up if Beno's ball handling still is weak under pressure. When a defensive TEAM presses, it's normally the offensive TEAM that responds, not just the PG.
Last edited by boutons_; 03-10-2006 at 05:56 PM.
Bad news because Nick is only going to get fatter. As far as Beno, I haven't seen him crumble like he did last year but he hasn't played a lot. Worst case scenario Barry plays the point where I think he's more productive.
No biggie. As long as Nick is back a couple of games before the playoffs to get back into the flow, it's cool.
He has tons of playoff experience.
Maybe you ought to stop watching those TIVO'd games of the Pistons - Spurs finals and catch up on the 2005 - 2006 season. In the fifteen games where Beno has played 15+ minutes, where he actaully is the backup PG, he's averaged 0.73 TOs with an A:TO ratio of nearly 3:1.
T Park is on auto-response.
<IF PRIOR POST = contains "Beno", THEN: POST = RANDOM("beno, can't handle the in pressure" , "beno is a dear, in headlights" , "beno is, a turnover machine")>
That aside, I would never call an injury good news. You can never have too much depth. I'm anxious to see what Beno does in the next couple of months, and if he can't hang then Van Exel is your man in the Playoffs. He may be anyway, unless Beno goes on a tear... which would be a GOOD thing.
Beno cost the Spurs game 1 vs Denver and game 3 in Detroit. How can anyone forget that?
When are you going to realize that Beno was a ing ROOKIE last year playing in his first playoffs ever? Aside from the turnover against Denver, he didn't play horrible. His turnovers came against a really great defensive team in Detroit. Devin Brown turned the ball over and let McGrady beat us, but Devin Brown sure as didn't suck.
Beno will come around. He's still learning, cut him some slack.
I seriously hope you are being facetious. Beno played a grand total of seven minutes in game 3 in Detroit. Did he make Manu go 2 of 6 with 7 points and 6 turnovers? Granted he had 3 turnovers, but the Spurs had 18 as a team. For that matter, how did his one turnover make Duncan go 7 for 22 against Denver?
Experience is useless if dude can't stay healthy
Im not??TPARK needs to calm down just a bit
Im glad you interpreted my feelings through a computer, you have magic powers.
He was a rookie last year??When are you going to realize that Beno was a ing ROOKIE last year playing in his first playoffs ever? Aside from the turnover against Denver, he didn't play horrible. His turnovers came against a really great defensive team in Detroit. Devin Brown turned the ball over and let McGrady beat us, but Devin Brown sure as didn't suck.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIDDING!!!!!
So what, you wanna play, play like a veteran, thats what Parker was told in 01 02, and did play like it vs Gary Payton, who they said would kill the rookie Parker.
Time for you to review the tape.Beno played a grand total of seven minutes in game 3 in Detroit. Did he make Manu go 2 of 6 with 7 points and 6 turnovers? Granted he had 3 turnovers, but the Spurs had 18 as a team. For that matter, how did his one turnover make Duncan go 7 for 22 against Denver?
Spurs had a solid lead going into halftime till Beno started choking like Jenna Jameson on a sausage, and couldnt get the ball past half court.
His 3 tunovers all came in that 2nd quarter, wich took the momentum from the Spurs, gave it to the Pistons, who went on to blow em out in the second half.
catch up on the 2005 - 2006 season. In the fifteen games where Beno has played 15+ minutes, where he actaully is the backup PG, he's averaged 0.73 TOs with an A:TO ratio of nearly 3:1.
Thats fine because those 15mins would be garbage time and what not, and influenced by games like last night vs horrible defense Phoenix and Charlotte.
Great measuring sticks there chief.
Cause Beno has yet to prove us wrong.T Park is on auto-response.
Against a good defensive team, IE Memphis, he got eaten up by Bobby Jackson.
PROVING, he hasn't proved .
Id love it if Beno came out against a full court press and handled it perfectly.That aside, I would never call an injury good news. You can never have too much depth. I'm anxious to see what Beno does in the next couple of months, and if he can't hang then Van Exel is your man in the Playoffs. He may be anyway, unless Beno goes on a tear... which would be a GOOD thing
If he can learn finally, handle the ball well, and still play the great offensive ball that he has, then Im all for him being the backup.
Until then, if Van Exel feels good, you keep running him out there.
He still commands a defender, he still brings the ball up well against a press, he still can knock down shots in pressure situations.
That simple.
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