Is the Smith/Barry trade still alive?

[Despot]

I never wanted Barry to go, but I would do take Smith for Barry, way too much upside not to take the chance.

The problem is that the word is out all over the league that Smith was available rather cheaply, so I'm sure alot of teams will make offers, and they will probably offer much more than Barry. It may come down to a bidding war for Smith's services, and I'm not sure I like the Spurs chances in an auction. If anything, maybe Barry's recent play has made the Hornets salivate more.

Did someone call him Charles Smith? Or were they rererring to Charles Smith. Did Charles Smith ever elevate??? Kinda blocked him from my memory.

[Despot]

Lets make something clear though. The Barry that is playing right now is not the Barry of the past year and a half. He was brought here to hit some open shots, and he struggled with that a lot last year and most of this year as well. I thought in the playoffs last year, he hit his stride to a degree, but still had room to grow. Then this year it appeared he had regressed.

However, perhaps Barry is finally in a zone where he needs to be.

I'm not so sure he is in a zone, but I agree with you, he is playing the way he should have been the entire time. I'm convinced now that he was so afraid of making mistakes that his game suffered badly, and now he has realized that that at ude was not going to help him stay on this team, so now he has cut loose figuring he has nothing to lose.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I never wanted Barry to go, but I would do take Smith for Barry, way too much upside not to take the chance.

The problem is that the word is out all over the league that Smith was available rather cheaply, so I'm sure alot of teams will make offers, and they will probably offer much more than Barry. It may come down to a bidding war for Smith's services, and I'm not sure I like the Spurs chances in an auction. If anything, maybe Barry's recent play has made the Hornets salivate more.

Did someone call him Charles Smith? Or were they rererring to Charles Smith. Did Charles Smith ever elevate??? Kinda blocked him from my memory.

Not the center.

The guy we traded to Portland. The kid had ridiculous hops. He was "the guy" off our bench at one point, before SJax waas SJax.

[Despot]

Not the center.

The guy we traded to Portland. The kid had ridiculous hops. He was "the guy" off our bench at one point, before SJax waas SJax.

I know, I never quite like Charles Smith for some reason, not sure why.

[T Park]

It just pisses me off that people contantly diss Barry for what barry isn't

??

We diss him cause he was brought here to make open 3s.

He hasn't done that

So hes been dissed on.

Cry me a river.

It's not just scoring but it's his passing, his ball handling skills, his court vision

Weve got Parker, Van Exel, and to a point, Udrih for that.

He was brought here to shoot.

WHy is that so hard to comprehend peeps?

[T Park]

The guy we traded to Portland. The kid had ridiculous hops. He was "the guy" off our bench at one point, before SJax waas SJax.

??

Eh?

SJax never "came off the bench"

He became a starter about 4 or 5 games into the season of 02 03.

The year before, he was IR fodder.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

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Eh?

SJax never "came off the bench"

He became a starter about 4 or 5 games into the season of 02 03.

The year before, he was IR fodder.

He didn't start right away.

I clearly remember him and Smith being on our bench. , I remember when SJax went at it with Malone and Kobe that year, and the dude was a virtual nobody. That's the same year Smith was the main guy offf the bench, he was making the spectacular plays while SJax was like the sloppy seconds.

[exstatic]

My issue with extatic and others regarding Barry is that they don't see what he brings to the table.

It's not just scoring but it's his passing, his ball handling skills, his court vision.

I would also make the trade because of Smith's potential.

It just pisses me off that people contantly diss Barry for what barry isn't. He isn't a 20 pt a game man. TD and TP and to a lesser degree Manu (whenever he wakes up) are there to that job.

Brent Barry has played 136 regular season games and 22 post season games in a Spurs uniform. He's had maybe 18-20 good games. I got tired of waiting, and apparently so did Pop. He's WAY on the wrong side of 30, and we had a chance to get a bright young talent. Sue me for wanting to.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Brent Barry has played 136 regular season games and 22 post season games in a Spurs uniform. He's had maybe 18-20 good games. I got tired of waiting, and apparently so did Pop. He's WAY on the wrong side of 30, and we had a chance to get a bright young talent. Sue me for wanting to.

I'm in the same boat.

I was a huge fan of his. But he just never did . He has come alive at times, but I just...blah. I don't care either way anymore, keep him if you can't trade him...trade him if you can get something for him.

[ChumpDumper]

I answered this question four hours before you asked it. Look around before starting another thread.

[T Park]

I clearly remember him and Smith being on our bench. , I remember when SJax went at it with Malone and Kobe that year, and the dude was a virtual nobody. That's the same year Smith was the main guy offf the bench, he was making the spectacular plays while SJax was like the sloppy seconds

Jax played 10 games TOPS, MAYBE.

Charles Smith was the main guy off the bench.

Tells you how bad the SPurs were.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I answered this question four hours before you asked it. Look around before starting another thread.

Really?

I didn't realize you had inside contacts with the Spurs. Next time, I'll skip the express news and just shoot you a PM/post. Sound like a plan?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Jax played 10 games TOPS, MAYBE.

Charles Smith was the main guy off the bench.

Tells you how bad the SPurs were.

Smith played nice, though.

Especially that game he lit the Lakers up. Somebody was injured, he had to play big minutes and came through. Anyways, we're getting sidetracked here...

[ChumpDumper]

Really?

I didn't realize you had inside contacts with the Spurs. Next time, I'll skip the express news and just shoot you a PM/post. Sound like a plan?

This was your question

If Barry is still under contract with us for next year wouldn't the two teams have another chance to get it done this offseason?

Here's my post from 4:00 Tuesday:

there's a very good chance this deal could be revisted in the summer. To do the same deal we'd have to wait for NOLA to sign or dispose of the rest of their free agents, or maybe more players or other teams could get involved.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=13

You have to earn the right to be a condescending asshole. You aren't even close. Well, that's not true: you got the last half down pat.

[cs100]

Barry was not going to be traded for someone to help us this year. It was primarily to gain cap space in order to offer Nazr a good deal to remain with the Spurs. That may still happen.

The problem the Spurs have, as stated earlier, was the age of some of our players, ie Horry, Bowen, Barry, Finley and NVE all between 32-36 years old. This may also be the problem with our back-to-backs -- tired old legs.

Barry wants to finish his career in SA and I would bet that if the Spurs trade him this summer, he may elect to retire instead. NVE only signed a one year contract.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

This was your questionHere's my post from 4:00 Tuesday:http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=13

You have to earn the right to be a condescending asshole. You aren't even close. Well, that's not true: you got the last half down pat.

^ How is that answering my question?

I asked if the deals still possible. Your reply (in another thread) was "well yes, maybe. sort of. just wait and see!".

[ChumpDumper]

^ How is that answering my question?

It is an answer.

To your question.

Maybe you should try reading it slower, or have your mom help you with the big words.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

It is an answer.

To your question.

Maybe you should try reading it slower, or have your mom help you with the big words.

Listen, I'm going to say it slower this time. I asked if the deal was still possible. Your reply was "well maybe, depends...if....well, possibly. durrrrrr".


Not to mention, this is a forum. Where you talk, about stuff. Know what I mean? The answer to every question is probably somewhere on the forums. Do you expect people to read every thread before posting? That's what I thought. Just stfu.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you expect people to read every thread before posting?

I would expect someone interested in the Barry trade would read the thread involving the Barry trade that is on the front page of the forum -- unless that person is a compete moron.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I would expect someone interested in the Barry trade would read the thread involving the Barry trade that is on the front page of the forum -- unless that person is a compete moron.

Wow.

*edit - it*

[exstatic]

Barry was not going to be traded for someone to help us this year. It was primarily to gain cap space in order to offer Nazr a good deal to remain with the Spurs. That may still happen.

It was primarily for J.R. Smith. Nazr had nothing to do with it. Have you ever heard the expression "he's dead, he just hasn't fallen over yet"? Nazr is gone, he just hasn't packed yet. The Spurs are at the luxtax threshhold, Tim Tony and Manu will all earn at least 10% raises over the next 5 years jacking up the payroll considerably, and we drafted a center last summer, have a another center and a PF stashed overseas, and have Rasho, Horry and Oberto under contract for the next couple of years as a big man rotation to go with Tim.

[doldrums]

You know he has the basic raw materials. Sometimes he just needs a fire under his ass.

[Obstructed_View]

I asked if the deal was still possible.

Here's the answer:

there's a very good chance this deal could be revisted in the summer. To do the same deal we'd have to wait for NOLA to sign or dispose of the rest of their free agents, or maybe more players or other teams could get involved.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Here's the answer:

there's a very good chance this deal could be revisted in the summer. To do the same deal we'd have to wait for NOLA to sign or dispose of the rest of their free agents, or maybe more players or other teams could get involved.

Why the rest of there players?

Don't they just have to clear up about $50,000? That's what I was under the impression of.

[Peter]

I don't care what Barry did last night. Hopefully the trade can be revisited this summer. Smith continues to be in Scott's doghouse. If the Spurs could score Macijauskas too like they were set to in the original trade, that would be quite nice.