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    The suns can suck my nuts, all they ever sign is 3-point shooters to stand in their territory for Steve Nash to find wide open.


    in pussies, they are NEVER going to win a championship with their offense, offense, offense, run, run, run mentality.
    You seem to have hostility problems , a team might sign a player calm the down , its no reason to attack them.

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    Dude, all of the suns can hit 3's, and they don't have to be pure shooters...

    Why?

    Because they are very open most of the time, and yes, they are all streaky, but when you have so many, it really doesn't matter, at least 3 of them will be hot on any given night...

    Nash, Barbosa, Marion, James Jones, Eddie House, Raja ing got Bell, Tim Thomas...


    you can't avoid it, some of them will be hot.
    Why not pick him up? Who is your 12th man right now...you're telling me you couldn't use Hoiberg...even if he doesn't work out? You're right, you get alot of open 3's so anybody can hit them.




    But that's why the Suns get beat in the playoffs every year. In the playoffs those open threes become contested, and you have to hit it with a hand in your face. Do you trust James Jones, or Marion, or Raja Bell to hit those?

    Hoiberg has made a career of hitting clutch three's in the regular season and playoffs. It's well worth the risk.

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    You seem to have hostility problems , a team might sign a player calm the down , its no reason to attack them.



    Don't take me that seriously, I'm just showing how much I hate the Suns....when they play the Spurs.




    But they are fun to watch, I'll give you that.

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    Why not pick him up? Who is your 12th man right now...you're telling me you couldn't use Hoiberg...even if he doesn't work out? You're right, you get alot of open 3's so anybody can hit them.




    But that's why the Suns get beat in the playoffs every year. In the playoffs those open threes become contested, and you have to hit it with a hand in your face. Do you trust James Jones, or Marion, or Raja Bell to hit those?

    Hoiberg has made a career of hitting clutch three's in the regular season and playoffs. It's well worth the risk.
    ummm...... I was saying that it IS worth it, I wasn't bashing Hoiberg.


    He fits in well with their game.


    And I wasn't regarding the Suns chances of succeeding in the play-offs, because they don't play any D, they will not go to the finals if the Spurs come in their path.

    I think either the Spurs or Suns will come out of the west. If the Spurs get eliminated from the play-offs, then I think the Suns will come out of the west, but if the Spurs play them in the WC finals again, they will destroy the Suns.

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    Looks like the suns are David Stern's puppet. Bring in the offense. Who gives a about defense. Sternie wants offensive entertainment.

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    Considering their 12th man, Dijon Thompson, is out for 6 months with microfracture knee surgery and he is a wing type player, Hoiberg is probably a signing to fill that position.

    The Suns are trying to keep a roster of guys so that Amare can have 5on5 practices.

    I would prefer a signing of a big guy, but with what's out there, it's better to wait for Kurt Thomas and Brian Grant to return to the lineup and maintain some sort of hope Amare can return this season.

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    Fred Hoiberg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melvin Sanders
    Exactly.

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    3 Point F/G %, I only looked at the top 50

    1 Leandro Barbosa
    2 Bruce Bowen
    3 Raja Bell
    8 Steve Nash
    34 Eddie House
    38 Michael Finley
    47 James Jones

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    3 Point F/G %, I only looked at the top 50

    1 Leandro Barbosa
    2 Bruce Bowen
    3 Raja Bell
    8 Steve Nash
    34 Eddie House
    38 Michael Finley
    47 James Jones
    Open looks in the regular season, and contested three's in the playoffs. Different story.

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    funny, suns got the same looks in the playoffs as they did in the season..

    suns have to be a shooting team right now without thomas and amare...DUH

    they aren't just all offense..they can play D but without their main big guys are forced to just out-shoot teams

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    http://probasketball.about.com/gi/dy...psstats.com%2F

    Here's a look at the Suns 3pt shooting during last season's playoffs

    vs. Grizz = 42/92 45.6% or 10.5/23 3pm/3pa per game
    vs. Mavs = 53/129 41.0% or 8.8/21.5
    vs. Spurs = 31/75 41.3% or 6.2/15

    The Suns were getting shooting well the whole time during the playoffs from 3 point land, but it's obvious the Spurs played much better perimeter defense than the Mavs or Grizz versus the Suns during last year's playoffs simply by not allowing the Suns to have numerous attempts and allowing Amare to nearly average 40 ppg which also took away 3pt attempts.

    The most attempts the Suns got in a game versus the Spurs was 18, that was the lowest number of attempts versus the Mavs that the Suns had, and 17 was the lowest number of attempts the Suns versus the Grizz.

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    Fred is going to be good for them. I do worry about his heart with all that running they do though.

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    Hoiberg has made a career of hitting clutch three's in the regular season and playoffs. It's well worth the risk.
    You gotta be kidding me. What has Fred Hoiberg done in the PLAYOFFS? His last team (Minnesota) has never even made it to the conference finals, much less the NBA Finals. Robery Horry, Derek Fisher, Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller - those are players who have "made a career of hitting clutch threes." Fred Hoiberg hasn't done - and now he's damaged goods.

    In terms of the impact on the Suns if Hoiberg dies on the court (which was someone else's question awhile back) - it would be a publicity nightmare and it would traumatize the fans and the players. I am sure the box office would suffer as a result, which might affect whether the Suns remain a viable franchise. It also might affect the insurance the team has to pay to cover their players if their decision to sign him becomes lethal.

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    silly supergirl, hoiberg is obviously up there with paxson and kerr

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    You gotta be kidding me. What has Fred Hoiberg done in the PLAYOFFS? His last team (Minnesota) has never even made it to the conference finals
    Were you in a Fisher-induced coma in 2004?

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    You gotta be kidding me. What has Fred Hoiberg done in the PLAYOFFS? His last team (Minnesota) has never even made it to the conference finals, much less the NBA Finals. Robery Horry, Derek Fisher, Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller - those are players who have "made a career of hitting clutch threes." Fred Hoiberg hasn't done - and now he's damaged goods.

    In terms of the impact on the Suns if Hoiberg dies on the court (which was someone else's question awhile back) - it would be a publicity nightmare and it would traumatize the fans and the players. I am sure the box office would suffer as a result, which might affect whether the Suns remain a viable franchise. It also might affect the insurance the team has to pay to cover their players if their decision to sign him becomes lethal.
    You don't have to be one of the best of all time to be clutch. If you watched him in Minny, and watchd him in those playoffs against the Lakers...he hit some big shots. He has a nice stroke.

    As for his health. Look at Eddy Curry. He had similar problems. He hasn't croaked yet. I'm sure the Suns will only sign him if he's cleared medically to play.

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    I thought he was gonna get signed, by detriot?
    Oh well...
    At least give the guy a chance.

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    I thought he was gonna get signed, by detriot?
    Oh well...
    At least give the guy a chance.
    Hoiberg > Melvin frieking Sanders




    (as previously mentioned)

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    Hoiberg woulda shut down Nazr.

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    Marion was really shooting purely.

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    Well they hit 44% from the arc, so I don't know what difference Freddie would've made other than raising our guards' shooting %.

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    They missed alot of clutch shots they needed to get back into the game.

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    I would cite being -28 on the boards as a slightly larger factor in the loss.

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    Hoiberg is a player they absolutely have no need for. But then Phoenix tends to stockpile artillery when what they need is infantry.

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