Excellent post altogether, Ocotillo.
Read and learn, boutons.
Have you seen his wife? There's no wonder he has to screw around, she's obviously a closet lesbian.Let me add, as a Democrat I am irritated that Bill Clinton is a "hound dog". He damaged his legacy and his presidency by being one. During his term in office, the country enjoyed peace and prosperity. Without his wandering eye, he would have gone down as one of the great presidents of the 20th century.
I believe this unecessary war demands someone be held accountbale for it. Unfortunately dumbya has blamed the UN, Democrats, and now the media for Iraq's becoming a mess. Dumbya and the boys have been trying to expand presidential powers and may have broken the law doing it. SO now we have a situation where the dems are criticized for trying to hold this administration accountable in some shape or fashion. We still have the Iraq war defenders supporting dumbya's plan 'victory'? We now know we will stay the course although no one has explained what this 'course' is.
My problem with this of charade of an independant investigator was why did it come to this? I mean Starr had been investigating Clinton going on 6 yrs..on a totally unrelated charge from the intial purpose of the investigation. So as a Dem I give slick Willy a pass.. he had his law license suspended and was impeached after 6 yrs of combing through his past. he paid his dues..Clinton did come on and admit he lied.. something our president would has not done yet whether with the wiretaps or his unecessary war..
Bull . The Repugs and conservatives like Richard Mellon Scaife, unable to beat Clinton at the polls, conducted a witch hunt of the Clintons.
Sure they found stuff on Willie, but it was stuff that was incosequential to doing his job, and similar scorched-earth campaigns against any high official, Senator, Conrgressman would expose similar siht.
Even when impeached, Clinton (his govt, his policies, the person) were very high.
The vote to impeach in the Congress was the worst kind of cynical, hardball partisanship, distracting Clinton and country to absolutely no benefit except to embarrass and impede Clinton's otherwise highly successful presidency, as the Repug Senate went flaccid and couldn't finish the job.
Compare Clinton's record AS PRESIDENT with dubya's ing on-going, fatal disaster.
You still don't get it. The point is not the impeachement, the point is he committed an inmoral act and he lied to the grand jury. You need to come to terms with that and stop comparing Clinton to Bush.
"point is he committed an inmoral act"
still on your holy roller tricycle? Immoral, unethical does not equal illegal.
He lied yes, but the bigger crime was even asking him about his sex life.
If you think dubya is "moral" or "ethical", explain all the lies and 2000+ wasted US lives in Repug Iraq.
I'd much rather have Willie "gettting lip service" and no war in Iraq, rather than dubya "giving lip service" to being born-again "Christian" and all the dead in Iraq, Katriina, and general govt ups under him.
As long as one claims to be a "Christian", then any behavior is fine with other Christians, right?
What holy roller tricycle are you talking about? You your mistress, you are an adulterer. And adultry is wrong. Plain and simple. What part of "adultry is wrong" you don't get?
I never said it did. Re read my posts please. I said committing perjury is illegal.
Huh?
So if I steal money from a store and the guy next to me robs that same store but in doing so kills the clerk, this somehow makes my crime right?
Flawed logic.
I don't think some of the things Bush has done are moral or ethical. I think the reasons for going to war against Iraq have very weak legs to stand on. I've fought with necons on this board about this topic (mainly whottt), but as I said in a previous post, you are so dumb you must think I'm a necon myself.
Again you go off on a tangent comparing Clinton to Bush when I have stated many times that is not the point of my argument.
Wrong and irrelevant to the discussion about ing your mistress and lying to a grand jury. Again botones, you can't have an intelligent discussion about Clinton without bringing Bush into the picture.
^^Guess it is okay for a President to talk on the phone while having oral sex
performed on him, oops, forgot oral intercourse is not sex. What a warped
sense of perception. And then lie to all of America and a Grand Jury. But
he was a great President according to those who defend him.
Bush lied to the UN and America, if your calling Clinton a bad president for lying to millions, aren't you doing the same for Bush?
So now we are parsing words in that immorality when it pertains to prejury is more serious (morally) than misleading a country into an unecessary war? So then it would be safe to assume that Clinton's perjury is far worse than the unecessary war?
There's morons on the left and there you
Clinton was a great president, even with his flaws.
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