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    Keith Jackson mookie2001's Avatar
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    no a ounce a shwag probably costs $1000 in japan
    we should be lucky to pay $300-500

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    It was $2.69 for me earlier this week, filled up to 3 quarters of a tank for $33

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    San Antonio represents an urban design that rapes the consumer.

    Ask yourself, how many miles do you (and your spouse) drive, weekly.

    The Motor City is with you. I can think of at least 5 legitimate projects for public transit (subways, railcars, and busing) that were killed because the Motor City couldn't have its workers coming to work without a car. And it keeps getting worse becuase people commute 20-30 miles a day so they can live in the suburbs and work downtown. You cannot survive on day-to-day living in this section of the country if you do not have a car.

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    is there any particular "reason" for gas going back up
    i mean first they wre trying to say bc were at war, then it was the hurricanes, then the shortage bc of the hurricanes.
    doesnt seem like theyre even trying to justify it anymore.
    i would seriously kill the execs of the big oil companies if it meant they would stop raping the whole country. this is getting ridiculous
    and what really pisses me off is when they try to justify it by comparing it to other countries gas prices. i dont give a what england pays for gas or any othe rcountry, except for the fact that iraq pays for gas what our grandparents did when they were teenagers.

    The reason being fed through the media is still Katrina. Apparently, the refineries are not back online.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    is there any particular "reason" for gas going back up
    i mean first they wre trying to say bc were at war, then it was the hurricanes, then the shortage bc of the hurricanes.
    doesnt seem like theyre even trying to justify it anymore.
    i would seriously kill the execs of the big oil companies if it meant they would stop raping the whole country. this is getting ridiculous
    and what really pisses me off is when they try to justify it by comparing it to other countries gas prices. i dont give a what england pays for gas or any othe rcountry, except for the fact that iraq pays for gas what our grandparents did when they were teenagers.
    The big thing right now is that the oil companies are under a May 1 deadline to switch from MTBE to ethanol as an oxygenating additive.

    AND, oil is $67 a barrel or thereabouts.

    AND, for all the ing about gas prices, Americans are using 2% more than they were this time last year.

    But hey, we're Americans, so we're en led to cheap gas. Milk and produce can jet upward in price, and people maybe furrow their brows a little bit. Gas goes up, and it's OUTRAGE EVERYWHERE. Then we feign ignorance about why our foreign policy is so oil-centric.

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    Each Day Offers Potential Darrin's Avatar
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    I complain about the e in Milk, peanuts, Coffee, and Chicken products. I complained just as loudly. But there are other ways to get caffine, protein, and calcium. This is something we are universally dependant on. It affects if people can get to work or if they can afford to leave the heat on in the winter. Our consumption is ing because it's the hoarding instinct. If gas prices stay this high and keep rising, the United States will abandon cars. One year is one thing, eight is something different.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    I complain about the e in Milk, peanuts, Coffee, and Chicken products. I complained just as loudly. But there are other ways to get caffine, protein, and calcium. This is something we are universally dependant on. It affects if people can get to work or if they can afford to leave the heat on in the winter. Our consumption is ing because it's the hoarding instinct. If gas prices stay this high and keep rising, the United States will abandon cars. One year is one thing, eight is something different.
    The U.S. won't abandon cars; $8 gas in England hasn't caused them to abandon cars. We will abandon the big, thirsty ones, though, and our driving patterns will change.

    Big SUV's increasingly will be the vehicles of the rich and of those who need to tow things. Suburban soccer moms will drive crossovers or even little hatchbacks

    The big-box stores will lose some of their advantage relative to the neighborhood stores.

    Traffic will slow down.

    Central cities slowly will start to repopulate, as the white-flight housing premium becomes unaffordable.

    For you in Michigan, obviously it sucks more, because your economy is dependent upon automakers whose business model is dependent upon cheap gas. In just a couple of years, they've gone from big profits to teetering on the brink of bankruptcy. We're going from U.S.-owned businesses building cars in the Upper Midwest to foreign-owned businesses building cars in the South.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Oil is as bad for this country as cigarettes are to the human body. We need to get off of it and that means not only gas stations and furnaces, but the plastics that make up this computer that I am typing on right now.
    Plastics don't make up enough of the demand to be of consequence. Your keyboard is made of the really cheap stuff. It's the use of oil for transportation fuel that is the big problem.

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    The big thing right now is that the oil companies are under a May 1 deadline to switch from MTBE to ethanol as an oxygenating additive.

    AND, oil is $67 a barrel or thereabouts.

    AND, for all the ing about gas prices, Americans are using 2% more than they were this time last year.

    But hey, we're Americans, so we're en led to cheap gas. Milk and produce can jet upward in price, and people maybe furrow their brows a little bit. Gas goes up, and it's OUTRAGE EVERYWHERE. Then we feign ignorance about why our foreign policy is so oil-centric.
    i understand that oil price is a big reason, and thats whyit went up so much from hurricane katrina and other bc oil was short so it went up, supposedely. what im saying is theres no reason for it. not even a month ago gas, premium, was under 2 bucks. now its almost 3. for no reason. and the "summer driving season" is coming up as well as hurricane season.
    and i bithc about milk, though i only pay about 2 bcuks for a gallon, and produce going up. but then again i dont use 2 gallons of milk a day getgting to and from work. i hate when people make correlations between what a gallon of chocolate syrup costs compared to gas.
    and again who cares what england has or hasnt done bc of gas prices. tough for them. i live in america and shouldnt be paying high gas prices bc of some asshole who wants to make an extra million/yr.
    maybe i should just do my 20 in the military and get out and live in some foreign cheap place off my retirement. america is getting ridiculous
    and mookie, dont worry abotu shwag prices going up, as long as another country is paying more its ok.

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    is there any particular "reason" for gas going back up
    i mean first they wre trying to say bc were at war, then it was the hurricanes, then the shortage bc of the hurricanes.
    Thank cities with emissions problems like Dallas and Houston, where all gasoline has to have certain additives in the fuel by I think it's May 1.

    BTW, before you guys , be thankful you live in SA (for the most part). It cost me $60 for my vehicle inspection up here in Dallas thanks to emissions testing.

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    i understand that oil price is a big reason, and thats whyit went up so much from hurricane katrina and other bc oil was short so it went up, supposedely. what im saying is theres no reason for it. not even a month ago gas, premium, was under 2 bucks. now its almost 3. for no reason. and the "summer driving season" is coming up as well as hurricane season.
    In a fungible commodity market like gasoline, price es can be caused by one of two factors:

    1) market forces
    2) collusion

    There is some collusion in the oil markets because the OPEC nations try to fix price, but $67 oil alone does not explain our gas prices. So either it's a combination of strengthening demand and restricted supply in an inelastic market, or the oil bigwigs are price-fixing.

    So, either every single politician and law enforcement official in this country is in cahoots with Big Oil, given that the first one to nail them for collusion could become popular enough to be elected President, which would mean this whole "democracy" thing is an illusion to keep us quiet, or the price is high because we have too much demand and not enough supply, and the slightest disruption creates price es, and we're screwed in the short and medium term.

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    my moms car is a brand new kia rio
    it has such a small tank that it only takes about say 14 to fill it up. Howevever, it needs to be filled up alot.

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    BTW sugarcane ethonal can be sold here.. However it has high tariffs

    also this summer MTBE will be replaced with ethonal

    we make some in the USA but production isn;t enough so we will be buying some from brazil. SO not only will priceses go up because of normal summer cycle, but also because of the more expansive ethonal in gasoline. possible because of hurricanes and or iran

    I fear we might not see 1.65 per gallon anytime soon

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    JekkaIsGoddess Jekka's Avatar
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    my moms car is a brand new kia rio
    it has such a small tank that it only takes about say 14 to fill it up. Howevever, it needs to be filled up alot.
    My 2000 Civic takes about ten gallons every time I fill it, but if I'm driving mostly highway I can get 350 miles out of it. I haven't had a tune up in a while though, so once I do that my mileage will probably go back up to what it was when I first got the car, about 40 mpg.

    I used to wish I had a bigger car sometimes, but since gas prices have gone up so much I'm really liking the 35 mpg on the smaller tank.

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    Yeah the 4 cyclinder engine sucks when acclerating( 0 to 60 in 5 mins j/k), but compared to what all those SUV owners are paying for gas it is well worth it.

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    Yeah the 4 cyclinder engine sucks when acclerating( 0 to 60 in 5 mins j/k), but compared to what all those SUV owners are paying for gas it is well worth it.
    They're not so bad these days. My 4-cylinder gets from 0-60 in 7.5, though I only get 26 mpg combined rather than like 31 with the smaller engine available on that car.

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    paid $2.85 tonight.....

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    Celica GT get's 35 hwy and is not to sloppy in acceleration. Don't know the stats.

    I was going to get one as a 2nd car to run to Port A on weekends but the prices for them have gone UP! in last few months lol.

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    paid $2.85 tonight.....

    I know the feeling...

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    I know the feeling...
    hey osc

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    As I said in another thread..I would never buy an American car. Japanese cars are it for me...Toyota and Honda are leading the way in great gas mileage.

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    I love the 80's! Old School Chic's Avatar
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    Hi T-Pain

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    its about time

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    Ethanol has to be transported by truck or rail cars. Pipe lines can not be used. Ethanol draws in moisture and to much makes it worthless.

    We do not want ethanol fuel in SA!
    Why, lately we haven't had much moisture in SA anyway.

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    if you think gas is bad here, try going to europe

    in denmark its about $7.00 per gallon. oh, also there is 150% sales tax on motor vehicles.

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