2003 was three years ago, not four. And I understand where you are coming from. If I didn't think he had it in him to take those big 3's anymore, I would be right with you. But the man is a compe or, period. And he knows he has to get this done, now. He has been sitting next to Robert Horry on the team plane. But during the playoffs, he will be sitting behind the 3pt line. Book it.
You must be really high.....some guy from the NBDL cant match what Nick has done in the L ! Hasnt had the strongest season, but then again his stats are not to bad when his minutes have been cut in half!!! leaving him off the playoff squad would be the dummest thing the spurs could do! NVl is a crunch player and will step up his game when you need him the most , thats why the spurs have him....not to be a main contributor thru the hole season.... PS Tony parker
nve atleast is a vetern and give advise to other players
nve will come in one game kind of like what steve kerr did one game and hit a few threes and then people's think he should not retire
Van Exel's defense is mediocre - below average, but he still thrives on pressure shots, which can never hurt in the playoffs. Why would you leave him off when you can leave off Melvin?
I lost faith in Beno when he lost faith in himself. To emotionally fragile.
Remember when Nick use to get to the basket to launch those floaters instead of launching them from the FT line like now. Wonder what's going to change that. Fountain of youth?
I agree on the van exel thing. Leaving melvin and bringing van exel is a good idea. All we can do is wait and see if he can make an impact in the playoffs...but I sure would feel safer putting my bets on a veteran pg than some rookie.
Stve kerr was pretty washed up in his last years comparison to what NVA is now.
What do you know about the spurs?
At this point in his career he should have a Robert Horry type role. Come in during the playoff stretch and provide an "x-factor" for the team. His D is lousy but he has the killer instinct on the oppsite side of the court in big games...
Van Exel's only value to the team is as a spot up shooter. Nothing more, nothing less. He shouldn't be handling the ball or running the team. He's a walking turnover when he's running the show.
as long as people think that NVE is not a defensive liability then I guess we can all live on fantasy island
I guess the defense dosnt suffer when NVE is in the game, I guess thats just my imagination, not really reality...yea right
also is it my imagination or does our offense stutter when NVE misses early in the shot clock leading to easy fast breaks by the opponents...I guess I am just imagining that.
Although I dont think Beno is way better I wonder how much better Beno would be if only he would have gotten the minutes we wasted on NVE early in the season
I don't have any insight into the Spurs braintrust, but I am convinced that unless Nick is hurt Pop will not play Beno unless someone gets hurt, in foul trouble on it's a blowout win or loss. So even if I agree that Nick is past his prime or that Beno has played better in the games he has been involved in I truly believe that Pop has zero confidence in Beno's ability to handle the playoff pressure. ANd in the end Pop is the guy who will call the shots.
thats one of Pops mains flaws (and I have always been I huge Pop supporter going back to when he fired lame ass Boob Hill) is that Pop is too stubborn when it comes to veterans.
I only hope that NVE proves me wrong and actually steps up his game in the playoffs. i will gladly kiss NVE ass if he improves and steps up during the playoffs (and proves me wrong)
On the other hand I have to admit that Finley has surpassed my expectations latey, I only hope that Mike and Brent have more to prove in the playoffs
but it really sucks that I have spent so much on gas money (I live in Round Rock) to watch the Spurs lose 3 of the last 4 home games I drove to see in person.
Hopefully my purchase of playoff tickets wont leave me feeling to cheated (how many of you can actually claim as much?)
I think Nick and Fin play well together, and it probably has something to do with them being together before.Spurs aren't build around NVE, he won't play 30mpg if he can't. Spurs only need him for 10mpg (at the start of the 2nd quarter and at the start of the 4th quarter)as backup PG.
With the playoff rotation, Manu will likely play when NVE will be on the floor : his task can only be to shoot 3's, not to be a too big defense liability and to bring up the ball.
Can he do that ? Without a doubt.
Haters, NVE will be very solid for us during the playoff and can even win one game or two only by himself.
I only want to see Nick on the floor when Fin is out there.
I am one of those that wanted NVE to come here 2 or 3 years ago. I must admit, now that we have him, he has disappointed a lot.
But who knows. Maybe he does have a couple of great playoff games left in him. Only time will tell.
Van Exel is overrated by many here, but we can't leave him off the playoff roster. The reason is simple: our backup PG slot is the biggest question mark on the bench. Neither NVE nor Beno has shown that they can play a consistent 10-15 mpg. You never know what you're going to get with either of them. If one of them sucks it up badly, Pop will have to give the other some minutes. We need both of them, and hope that Pop realizes which one sucks less on any given night.
Plus, Sanders is even less dependable, and in a shortened playoff rotation, has no chance of seeing any minutes behind Manu, Bruce, Finley and Barry. There is a chance that Barry might see more minutes at backup PG than at the swing spot.
But there is no denying the fact that backup PG is our weakest link, and creates some serious mismatches. We have no answer off the bench for Lindsey Hunter's defense or Devin Harris's quickness.
what are you on?
vanx
Beno is>>>>>> NVE.
Just watch him shoot the ball in warmups, if you do not believe me. The guy has the purest shot on the team, he passes the ball better than almost everyone, all he needs to PT and he will be a great PG. Pop is a freaking nut job sometimes, because he sticks to a decision no matter what, even if it is a bad decision. NVE is washed up. He might come through every now and again(Blind Hog) but for the most part, I want Beno shooting to get the Spurs points, not NVE. Manu and Beno,together Barry on the floor too, is sweet to behold.
Last season, everyone said the same thing about Barry. How did that work out?
The point is that NVE IS a veteran, does not get rattled like Beno does, CAN hit big shots, CAN draw fouls (due to veteran status), makes good passes and has pure ice in his veins.
Is he a defensive liability? Yes, but so is Beno.
Van Exel is too fat to give the spurs much.
In regards to NVE, you also forgot to mention that he takes "ill-advised shots" early in the shot clock, which often lead to easy transition for the other team; he creates his share of turnovers with bad passes; IS grossly out of shape; and IS a defensive liability.
This is not to say that Beno is any better or that Pop has the confidence to use him during the playoffs. However, I would say there will be some PG playoff matchups that Beno may be better suited for than NVE.
As someone stated earlier in this thread, it's a damn shame that Pop didn't give more minutes to Beno earlier in the season. At one point, Beno was the first backup PG off the bench and was playing reasonably. Yet as soon as he got hurt, Pop activated NVE and Beno hasn't seen the light of day since his return from injury.
In the meantime, let's not simply "dress up" NVE because of his reputation. At this stage of his career, he's not the answer to our backup PG woes. He's simply the lesser of two evils and Pop will have to make do. Despite my misgivings about him, he absolutely should be included on the playoff roster.
We bring in NVE for the playoffs and you wanna leave him off the playoff roster?Maybe you forgot Pop loosing his mind in the finals because our back up PG at the time couldn't handle a little defensive pressure. NVE is in the same boat as Horry, he's here to hit big shots in the playoffs and so far he hasn't played in ONE playoff game for us. The regular season doesn't matter, what are you guys mavs fans?
Jimcs50, you think beno looks good in warm up huh?by the way finley has the purest shot on this team and there's no way beno is the best passer, i hope you were kidding. Beno is a good shooter and penetrator but that's it.
If Hova uses him in a rap then I say we keep him. Agreed?
Beno is>>>>>> NVE.
Just watch him shoot the ball in warmups, if you do not believe me. The guy has the purest shot on the team, he passes the ball better than almost everyone, all he needs to PT and he will be a great PG. Pop is a freaking nut job sometimes, because he sticks to a decision no matter what, even if it is a bad decision. NVE is washed up. He might come through every now and again(Blind Hog) but for the most part, I want Beno shooting to get the Spurs points, not NVE. Manu and Beno,together Barry on the floor too, is sweet to behold.
Watch the game against Orlando where Jameer Nelson somewhat put pressure on the ball, and that little turned it over.
Practically gave him the ball.
Get a clue jinx.
Read what Pop said about Beno's injury.Yet as soon as he got hurt, Pop activated NVE and Beno hasn't seen the light of day since his return from injury.
The guy is a puss.
Van Exel is busting his ass out there with floating chips in his elbow.
The proof of what this guy will do in the playoffs was against Dallas and Memphis.
Watch the tape of those games and you'll see what X gives the team in the playoffs.
Lose the hate.
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