'We Are Already at War' (in Iran)

[Yonivore]

Not mention that if we'd only let the military opine on matters military, Patton would have marched into Moscow and shot Stalin between the eyes and Schwartzkopf would have done the same to Saddam Hussein.

Korea and Vietnam would have ended differently as well.

Not bad options, in my opinion. So, maybe he's right -- let's all stay out of the fray and let the military do what they do best; people up and break their military toys.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Non sequitur and irrelevant.

You're the one that said "Meanwhile, in the real world," then used a Military source to defend your position. That makes its seem as though you view the military as the real world, which is why I questioned your military background. I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter because you didn't serve, but you did insinuate that my source didn't matter because it wasn't a military source. In other words, you started it.

[Yonivore]

You're the one that said "Meanwhile, in the real world," then used a Military source to defend your position. That makes its seem as though you view the military as the real world, which is why I questioned your military background. I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter because you didn't serve, but you did insinuate that my source didn't matter because it wasn't a military source. In other words, you started it.

No, your source doesn't matter because it's ABC News. And, my background has nothing to do with -- nor does yours.

[Oh, Gee!!]

No, your source doesn't matter because it's ABC News.

Translate: I only read blogs.

And, my background has nothing to do with

You mean as a security guard for Target?

[George W Bush]

Stick to the plan Yoni!

Don't let em sniff the coward in us.
Stay the course.


God Bless America

[Yonivore]

Translate: I only read blogs.

Well-sourced blogs. If you'd pay attention, most of my posts contain links to the sources from which the bloggers got their information. And, those sources run the gamut from mainstream media to government reports to other bloggers who have done the same.

Nothing wrong with reading blogs.

You mean as a security guard for Target?

What have you got against honest employment -- whatever the position?

[gtownspur]

Okay, so let's be consistent:

Perhaps only the military should vote or the military should vote on whether we engage in a war. What do you think? Surely you are aware of the fact that the military, by and large, is very conservative and votes Republican. This is precisely why algore tried to disenfranchise the military, overseas ballots (remember the 5 page memo giving democrats the how to remove a military ballot from being counted as a vote).

Most men and women in the US Armed Forces would not agree with your views. So, it seems kind of dumb to bring this up.

You also don't appear to understand how to reason logically. Your line of reasoning appears to be: (1) only those in the US Armed Forces can validly have a viewpoint on military/political topics (2) this other person that you are writing to isn't in the military; (3) therefore, this other person can not validly have a viewpoint or express it on a military/political topic.

Do you have a viewpoint on the space program? Are you an astronaut? This type of argument proves too much for if logically applied would force you to adopt conclusions that you wouldn't like. What is your view on bilingual education? Are you a bilingual educator? What is your view on immigration? Are you a border patrol agent? How far do you want to take this?


The men and women of the US Armed Forces are not forced to reenlist. This is simply a false statement. Stop loss is not equivalent to forcing a soldier to reenlist for another 6 year term... It simply is not. There is no coercion involved in reenlistment. The numbers given for reenlistment do not include those who may have stayed longer than originally expected. Therefore, your explanation of the facts is simply without foundation and false.

Conscription has returned. Wow, you believe anything that anybody says so long as it portrays conservatives in a sufficiently negative light. If Bin Laden himself were to tell you something negative regarding a conservative politician without any evidence at all, you would believe him because you want to. The hatred causes you to look at everything in as hostile a way as possible in respect to conservatives.

Oh Gee!! got p3owned!!!!

[gtownspur]

duh..duh... uhhhhhhhh.......security guard...huh huh huh.

[Oh, Gee!!]

What have you got against honest employment -- whatever the position?

Nothing, I just like to insult you since this is an anonymous forum.

[Yonivore]

Nothing, I just like to insult you since this is an anonymous forum.

I'm not insulted.

I appreciate the security guards at K-Mart. And, although I'm not one, I recognize it is they that help keep costs down by apprehending shoplifters. It is also the K-Mart security guard that accompanies my elderly mother, or my wife, or my daughter to her car after the sun goes down.

Yeah K-Mart Security Guards!

[Nbadan]

Settle down Wilbur. Many of us 'borrow ideas' from different blogs and forums. Nobody expects complete originality all the time, but when you copy a post from somewhere else word-for-word the writer of the original post should be given proper credit by linking to the original work.

Yoni got busted, lets all get over it and move on.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

[Yonivore]

Settle down Wilbur. Many of us 'borrow ideas' from different blogs and forums. Nobody expects complete originality all the time, but when you copy a post from somewhere else word-for-word the writer of the original post should be given proper credit by linking to the original work.

Yoni got busted, lets all get over it and move on.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

I've been busted several times. The point of the posts don't change.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Settle down Wilbur. Many of us 'borrow ideas' from different blogs and forums. Nobody expects complete originality all the time, but when you copy a post from somewhere else word-for-word the writer of the original post should be given proper credit by linking to the original work.

Yoni got busted, lets all get over it and move on.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

You're the Yoni of the Left.

[Nbadan]

You're the Yoni of the Left.

I don't think I'm left at all, but everyone is en led to label everyone else if they so choose.

[Ocotillo]

Okay, so let's be consistent:

Perhaps only the military should vote or the military should vote on whether we engage in a war. What do you think? Surely you are aware of the fact that the military, by and large, is very conservative and votes Republican. This is precisely why algore tried to disenfranchise the military, overseas ballots (remember the 5 page memo giving democrats the how to remove a military ballot from being counted as a vote).

Most men and women in the US Armed Forces would not agree with your views. So, it seems kind of dumb to bring this up.

You also don't appear to understand how to reason logically. Your line of reasoning appears to be: (1) only those in the US Armed Forces can validly have a viewpoint on military/political topics (2) this other person that you are writing to isn't in the military; (3) therefore, this other person can not validly have a viewpoint or express it on a military/political topic.

Do you have a viewpoint on the space program? Are you an astronaut? This type of argument proves too much for if logically applied would force you to adopt conclusions that you wouldn't like. What is your view on bilingual education? Are you a bilingual educator? What is your view on immigration? Are you a border patrol agent? How far do you want to take this?


The men and women of the US Armed Forces are not forced to reenlist. This is simply a false statement. Stop loss is not equivalent to forcing a soldier to reenlist for another 6 year term... It simply is not. There is no coercion involved in reenlistment. The numbers given for reenlistment do not include those who may have stayed longer than originally expected. Therefore, your explanation of the facts is simply without foundation and false.

Conscription has returned. Wow, you believe anything that anybody says so long as it portrays conservatives in a sufficiently negative light. If Bin Laden himself were to tell you something negative regarding a conservative politician without any evidence at all, you would believe him because you want to. The hatred causes you to look at everything in as hostile a way as possible in respect to conservatives.

You're off the mark. It is wise to consult those who have experience in the relevant area. No one advocates the military call the shots and we have civilan leadership to boot.

Your post is a red herring meant to attack and makes no point that is relevant to what it was supposed to be responding to,

[Mr. Peabody]

You also don't appear to understand how to reason logically. Your line of reasoning appears to be: (1) only those in the US Armed Forces can validly have a viewpoint on military/political topics (2) this other person that you are writing to isn't in the military; (3) therefore, this other person can not validly have a viewpoint or express it on a military/political topic.

Do you have a viewpoint on the space program? Are you an astronaut? This type of argument proves too much for if logically applied would force you to adopt conclusions that you wouldn't like. What is your view on bilingual education? Are you a bilingual educator? What is your view on immigration? Are you a border patrol agent? How far do you want to take this?

You do not appear to understand common sense my friend. Merely having a viewpoint on an issue does not make you credible on the issue. Using one of your examples, I would give a bilingual educator's opinion on bilingual education much more attention than I would to the opinion of a random individual. It's just common sense. I mean, when something is wrong with your car, do you just seek random opinions on what it could be, or do you see a mechanic or someone that has experience with auto repair?

[xrayzebra]

You do not appear to understand common sense my friend. Merely having a viewpoint on an issue does not make you credible on the issue. Using one of your examples, I would give a bilingual educator's opinion on bilingual education much more attention than I would to the opinion of a random individual. It's just common sense. I mean, when something is wrong with your car, do you just seek random opinions on what it could be, or do you see a mechanic or someone that has experience with auto repair?

Random opinion: Do you have to be a mechanic to know what is wrong with
a car? In many cases I would rather have a good opinion rather than a
mechanic's opinion since he has a monetary motive in giving you an answer.
He may fix the problem, but tell you it was something else that is more
expensive to repair. You know like a dimm-o-crap who wants to spend a
ton of money on the homeless but still cant fix the problem.

[Mr. Peabody]

Random opinion: Do you have to be a mechanic to know what is wrong with
a car?

No. I said...

...do you see a mechanic or someone that has experience with auto repair?

In many cases I would rather have a good opinion rather than a mechanic's opinion since he has a monetary motive in giving you an answer. He may fix the problem, but tell you it was something else that is more expensive to repair.

I completely agree.

You know like a dimm-o-crap who wants to spend a ton of money on the homeless but still cant fix the problem.

Do you always have to do that?

[scott]

Well-sourced blogs. If you'd pay attention, most of my posts contain links to the sources from which the bloggers got their information. And, those sources run the gamut from mainstream media to government reports to other bloggers who have done the same.

Nothing wrong with reading blogs.

Are these the same blogs that told you that Stop-Loss "only prevents you from leaving early"?

[Yonivore]

Are these the same blogs that told you that Stop-Loss "only prevents you from leaving early"?

A mistatement you graciously corrected. But, stop-loss isn't forced re-enlistment and that was my point.