tim duncan will shutup all those doubters wrong by liftin up that championship again and another finals mvp
I wonder how many times Duncan would have made it had he played in the era of all those other guys on the list.Tim Duncan has been named as an All-NBA First Team member his first eight seasons in the league. He's in elite company:
Elgin Baylor -- 10
Bob Pet -- 10
Larry Bird -- 9
Oscar Robertson -- 9
Tim Duncan -- 8
Making it 8 times in this era of more big men and much more athletic players, speaks volumns of his ability.
Does he deserve it? Yes or No.
Will he get it? Yes or No.
Yes.
No.
No, well PF-wise maybe he even does.
Yes!
Not this year.
And No, he won't.
No and No.
No and No. It's a regular season award and it's about this season. I don't think the past should help Duncan. He hasn't been very good this season.
Writers are creatures of habit.
TD will be 1st team again...no doubt about it.
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Well, I guess we all know that that means it's settled.
And in which way, too.
Poor Tim, the run is overWriters are creatures of habit.
TD will be 1st team again...no doubt about it.
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Poor Tim, the run is over
The Spurs have the second best record in the NBA. That alone should warrant Tim's placement in either 1st, 2nd or 3rd team. Sure, Tony has won us many games with his points, but Tim's mere presence on the floor changes the game, regardless of how many points he scores.
Mike Monroe did not do his research. Poor form on his part.
FYI - Elton Brand's numbers are about the same as last year. The difference is that he has Cassell in there this year.
Same goes for Gasol.
it makes me upset when people on Espn talk about Duncan as if he is struggling, he maybe but the rest of the Spurs are picking up the slack their record attests to that
Well let's hang another banner, this will make him feel better.
In my opinion Tim has just as good a shot as anyone at getting picked to the 1st team. His scoring is down from last season about a point and a half, his FG% is down only 1%, FT% down 5% (although not his all time lowest by far), assists up .5%, rebounds the same. And what I think is most important is, unless we clinch against Utah tomorrow and Pop rests everyone in the Houston game, Tim will only have missed one game this season (compared to 16 DNPs last season). His numbers have been on the decline about the last four seasons, but all anyone seems to care about is Tim having an "off year." The only stat TD had more of last season was blocks, but hey, if he averages 15bpg in the next two then he'll top that! And if you ask me guys, I wouldn't really say Tim had a bad year. We don't need TD to get 30 and 15 every night to win. Some nights we do, but most of the time we can get four of five guys in double figs real easy, and some solid games off the bench and some clutch shots by Barry/Fin/Horry and take home the W no prob. Tim makes everyone on the team better.
There are a lot of contenders this season, but I can see TD and Dirk in the 1st team. His numbers have been going down for about four seasons, like I said, and he still made 1st team all those years. He's got a legit shot at doing it again, and IMO probably will because he's Duncan. I mean, he has the rings to silence his critics. Dirk, Lebron, Brand...they ain't got nothin to show for it.
I don't think Duncan deserves first team from what I have seen of his play this year...2nd or 3rd team? Probably. Besides, it can mean nothing but good things(for the Spurs) to piss Duncan off as we head into the post season. He'll make his point...just like he always does.
I definitely think Parker deserves All NBA consideration...
Todays trivia:
A. When was the last time the Spurs placed 2 players on All NBA Teams(1st, 2nd, or 3rd)?
B. When was the last time a guard made it for the Spurs?
C. How many other guards have made all NBA teams for the Spurs?
Hint: Just skip right over the years spanning Drob's career when researching the last 2 questions.
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Do you think that not making the 1st team will piss Timmy off? By all accounts, he doesn't care about individual accolades. Personally, I would figure it does matter, at least a little.
I don't think he's going to be emotionally devastated and go off on a big media tirade about how stupid the voters were, or anything like that...He probably won't say a word about it. And the only one he is likely to be pissed at is himself...but that's still going to = a pissed off Duncan.
But ya...I think it'll sting just a bit. I think it'll get his attention, and IMO, it will probably re-affirm and remind that he had the worst regular season of his career...something IMO, he will feel he can still correct in the playoffs.
Duncan may not be into public accolades or be all about Duncan...but he is extremely compe ive and he's going to want to put an ass kicking on any unforutnate forward he goes up against that beat him out on the All NBA teams...I think Duncan will do that.
Ya thew team winning is the most important thing to him...but he genuinely wants to be the best player on the court...if he didn't he wouldn't be.
You don't work as hard as he does, play as consistently as he does, without having a tremendous amount of pride and compe iveness...I don't care what he says in the media. He's used to getting the hardware.
Even Drob was like that...Drob earned a rep for being an extremenly unselfish team player, he was so controlled in his demeanor that many people, including a lot of Spursfans, questioned his desire to win, and at times if he even cared about basketball...
But when the Spurs won the le in 99...and Duncan was handed the Finals MVP...Drob admitted it stung for just a second...just a little. He was used to being the guy getting the hardware. I think Duncan will feel similarly. He's used to being on that first team...and he's going to have ample opprtunity to prove he still belongs there.
Good analysis. I tend to agree, it has to matter, at least a little.
There seems to be a lot of layers to Timmy. Even Amy said in an interview a few years back that she doesn't always know what he is thinking. I believe it was the SI interview for the Sportsman of the Year award that he and Robinson shared. She said she didn't think he would want to say something like 'it's my team'. Then he goes and says 'of course its my team'. I am paraphrasing of course, but it was a good interview that showed just how little we really know about the real Tim Duncan.
Well...I remember at Elliott's jersey retirement, he told a story about being on his virtual deathbed and Duncan came in to whup his ass on some video game that Elliott used to beat him at all the time...Something about wanting to beat Elliott before he died
Just kidding about the death part but it was funny listening to that story...especially since Elliott allegedly whipped him severely that night.
I think Elliott also talked about how once you show Duncan something he eventually learns to be better at it than you...
Duncan is very compe ive, beyond all doubt.
Bump Duncan to second or third team All NBA and all you do is give him something to prove...And he really hasn't had anything to prove this season...he pretty much proved everything last season...at least until he gets bumped.
I hope they do bump him off for Dirk...that'll come in handy in the second round.
merlin will avenge any slight.
My choices:
FIRST TEAM
Forwards: Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas; LeBron James, Cleveland
Center: Yao Ming, Houston
Guards: Chauncey Billups, Detroit; Dwyane Wade, Miami
SECOND TEAM
Forwards: Tim Duncan, San Antonio; Shawn Marion, Pheonix
Center: Pau Gasol, Memphis
Guards: Steve Nash, Phoenix; Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers
THIRD TEAM
Forwards: Kevin Garnett, Minnesota; Elton Brand, LA Clippers
Center: Ben Wallace, Detroit
Guards: Allen Iverson, Philadelphia; Jason Kidd, New Jersey
i dont think he cares if he gets it, cose his lookin at the bigger picture, championship and finals mvp
None other than Steve Nash said the other day that no one can deny what TD means to the Spurs and what his being on the floor does for the other Spur players. HE KNOWS, as do most other basketball know-it-alls. Monroe is looking at personal bests. These same know-it-alls know, as do the Lakers, the Lakers would be a much better team if Kobe traded a few spectaular points for some assists, blocks, and a little defense.
Let's see, heard last night (again) what the Spurs record is since TD joined them. Yankees? Celtics? Others? NO, it's the Spurs. Credit TD for that, as does Pop, in a second.
Leave him off the All-Pro team. Give as the NBNA le.
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