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[SA210]

Then you will just be another sheep in the slaughter.

Unfortunately, virtuoso thinking isnt exactly equatable to real life. At some point in your life, you will be unintentionably put in a situation where there is not a choice of "fight or flight".

It happens. Thats human nature. Its violent. Its un-Christian. But its reality.

War is just the same. When Germany invaded Poland, the where trying to thwart the Blitzkrieg with cavalry. No offense, but that must have been one of the more horrible happenings in history. To be a country so ill-prepared for the worst case scenario.

Soldier: "Oh snap, here comes 10,000+ German tanks!"
General: "Send in the cavalry..."

War is , but sometimes very necessary. I dont agree with this Iraq fiasco, but WW1 and WW2 had to be done. Vietnam, Korea and Iraq...not so much.

Such is life. Thus the reason you cannot be a true Christian no matter how hard you try.

I would have to respectfully disagree completely with that statement. You are specifically talking about people who profess to be Christian and compromise the teaching to their own likings as they see fit, and that is not what a "true" Christian does.

Sure we all are not perfect, I try hard not to curse when I get upset and things like that, but it doesn't always work out, but I try harder everyday, and I'm still learning as well, and God knows that.

But we are talking about murder, and I believe there are a small number of "true" Christians in this world who know and believe that war is wrong, it is The Devil's plan and whatever happens, we know that God has a better plan.

I'm not saying if someone came into my house trying to kill my family that I wouldn't react to restrain the killer in self defense. I definitely would, but war is Satan's plan for this world and I will have no part in that, and neither will my daughter. Republicans always talk about teaching Christian values in school and say they are the Christian party, but they sure are war Christians and want to teach what war brought this country in the History books. Well, I don't want my daughter to think it's ok.

Like Clandestino's point, I do see yours, but a true Christian or someone trying to be one can and should undertstand how sacred blood is and about killing, and would know that God detests such a thing and has a better plan for his people.

When discussing Christianity, there is no debate on whether war is ok or not. Plain and simple. Because then, we'd be talking about compromising and going away from God's word.

I want to agree with you, because I've had those same personal feelings myself, and still kind of do, but in the end I value everyone's life, as instructed, and take that very seriously, so that later, we can have everlasting life.

[DarkReign]

I'm not saying if someone came into my house trying to kill my family that I wouldn't react to restrain the killer in self defense.

See, that right there is flawed, IMO. A killer is in your house, with your family and you think youre going to restrain him/her?! Has it ever occured to you that you might fail? If you fail, what happens to your family?

So the next logical jump in thought is...minimize your chance at failure as close to ZERO percent as possible. I mean, we're talking about your frickin family here...

Grab your gun. Shoot to kill. Hope you have element of surprise.

My way, you never have to get closer than you HAVE to (think about that).

Your way is already predicated on getting into melee range...bad idea with a psychopath.

My way, depending on various elements, you have maximized your chances at victory (in this case, home defense).

Your way, I wouldnt give you even a 50-50 chance of success. Maybe 40-60. Maybe.

If someone put a gun to your head and forced you to make a decision. A choice between a 6-shot revolver on the table with 4 bullets in it, or a 6-shot revolver with 1 shot. Which would you choose in a game of Russian Roullette?

I know...too easy. But its my point.

When discussing Christianity, there is no debate on whether war is ok or not. Plain and simple. Because then, we'd be talking about compromising and going away from God's word.

I want to agree with you, because I've had those same personal feelings myself, and still kind of do, but in the end I value everyone's life, as instructed, and take that very seriously, so that later, we can have everlasting life.

Are you Catholic?

see: Crusades

There is no peace, not even for the fervently religious.

Grow. Up.

[SA210]

See, that right there is flawed, IMO. A killer is in your house, with your family and you think youre going to restrain him/her?! Has it ever occured to you that you might fail? If you fail, what happens to your family?

Has it ever occured to you that a Christian knows that God has a plan whether I fail or not? There are principles in which to live by to have everlasting life. Why participate in killing to not die in This world and be prevented from everlasting life that God has promised after we die?

So the next logical jump in thought is...minimize your chance at failure as close to ZERO percent as possible. I mean, we're talking about your frickin family here...Grab your gun. Shoot to kill. Hope you have element of surprise. My way, you never have to get closer than you HAVE to (think about that). Your way is already predicated on getting into melee range...bad idea with a psychopath. My way, depending on various elements, you have maximized your chances at victory (in this case, home defense).
Your way, I wouldnt give you even a 50-50 chance of success. Maybe 40-60. Maybe.

Well, home surveillance cameras, security alarm and a gated home give me a better chance to start with. And your "grab a gun and shoot to kill" theory is not one of my household. And as for my success, I hope and pray that I have success to make it to the new world that God has promised. Supporting war and killing and being a participant in that would not help my chances.

If someone put a gun to your head and forced you to make a decision. A choice between a 6-shot revolver on the table with 4 bullets in it, or a 6-shot revolver with 1 shot. Which would you choose in a game of Russian Roullette?

I know...too easy. But its my point.

The thing is, I wouldn't play it to begin with, and he'd have to shoot me if I couldn't stop him. Suicide is murder as well.

Are you Catholic?

see: Crusades

There is no peace, not even for the fervently religious.

Grow. Up.

That statement is not accurate and there is Peace that God has promised.

God made war with the nations, this was war by command. Nations were executed in righteous war by God using the Isrealites. And the Last War will be the same.

Wars of today are Not made by God. We are NOT to start wars, finish them or be associated with them in anyway. Simple, "You must not kill" . No exceptions. You can read I and II Kings and I and II Samuel to see the difference.

So I think, people on both sides evade the issue, killing. Some think the death penalty is ok, because that person killed someone, even though the Bible tells us who the real Judge is, and that we must not kill. Many think war is ok to protect ourselves or for whatever reasons, but the Bible says, we must not kill. I don't want my daughter being taught that it is ok. And no, I am Not Catholic.

[Oh, Gee!!]

they used buckets placed in classroom corners or behind teachers' desks.

These kids are going to have nightmares as adults. It puts a whole new spin on the "naked in class" nightmare I have occassionally

[DarkReign]

Has it ever occured to you

[SNIP]

Many think war is ok to protect ourselves or for whatever reasons, but the Bible says, we must not kill. I don't want my daughter being taught that it is ok. And no, I am Not Catholic.

Wow...just....wow.

I will admit this much.

You either VERY right or quite possibly VERY wrong.

You are amazingly sheepish. Good luck.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm Catholic!!

[Spurminator]

More reasons to keep religion out of the classroom and out of politics, I suppose...