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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    Since the rights of the property owners are paramount, what can they do to those non-citizens who trespass?
    They can do whatever they want. But if they don't consent to the Minutemen building a fence, the Minutemen can't build the fence across that property.

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    That fence looks hoppable.

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    That fence looks hoppable.
    Most truth in the thread.

    You beat the internets.

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    I don't see how. Landowners who wouldn't consent to having a fence built across their property have (apparently) no problems with migrants crossing their land and have (apparently) significant problems with the Minutemen patrolling their properties. You might increase the traffic flow on those properties, but once the migrants are on the U.S. side of the fence, little exists to keep them on the properties of the landowners who are sympathetic to their efforts. Once the migrants make it across the border, through the gap in the fence, the traffic flow becomes pretty much like it always has been as the migrants will undoubtedly find secretive ways of proceeding into the United States without regard for property borders. I don't see how that creates any incentive for landowners to agree to have a fence built.
    There is a pretty big chunk of real estate along the Rio Grande known as Big Bend National Park. Good luck building a fence there Bubba.

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    I don't see how. Landowners who wouldn't consent to having a fence built across their property have (apparently) no problems with migrants crossing their land and have (apparently) significant problems with the Minutemen patrolling their properties. You might increase the traffic flow on those properties, but once the migrants are on the U.S. side of the fence, little exists to keep them on the properties of the landowners who are sympathetic to their efforts. Once the migrants make it across the border, through the gap in the fence, the traffic flow becomes pretty much like it always has been as the migrants will undoubtedly find secretive ways of proceeding into the United States without regard for property borders. I don't see how that creates any incentive for landowners to agree to have a fence built.

    Some people just will not want to deal with it, but EVERYONE hates having illegals cross their property. They leave open gates that impede livestock, they damage property and many steal whatever they can carry.

    Most of the minutemen are retired law enforcement. The few landowners I know who have them on their place have nothing but positive things to say about them. Last summer they rescued two kids under the age of 12 just wandering around on the brink of exhaustion on one of my friends ranches.

    They aren't what people make them out to be.

    They sit out in the brush with nightvision, and if they see an illegal they call the border patrol.

    That is all they do.

    Pretty funny that people get upset about it.

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    Most of the minutemen are retired law enforcement
    doubtful.
    leaders maybe

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    Most of the guys that are on my friends place are retired law enforcement.

    You met any of them?

    No?

    That's what I thought.

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    so out of all the minutemen in the whole country, greater than 50% are retired law enforcement?

    it just seems highly doubtful

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    Who else but retired law enforcement would be big enough busybodies to devote their time to it?

    Lots of Militias are made up of retired military and law enforcement.

    I just don't get why they are getting the bad press.

    Problem with the border patrol is, and being a landowner in several S. Texas Counties I can attest to this, unless you have a big group walking across your place, it really isn't worth their time to come check it out.

    If you see 3 or 4 guys walking, it's not even worth it to report because you likely arent going to get anyone out to look for them.

    If you see a group of 40 walking, they will come round them up or try.

    Problem with that is, when they do come get them, they scatter like a covey of quail leaving people stranded.

    People die that way. These people have no outdoor skills, lots of them are city dwellers. They lose their guide in a roundup, and get left alone or in a group of 2 or 3 and they are SERIOUSLY screwed in the summer time.

    The kids that the minutemen found and saved last summer got stranded in similar fashion I'm sure.

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    I just don't get why they are getting the bad press.
    They might want to cut down on the pictures with guns pointed at their s.

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    I would carry a gun too if I was getting death threats from Coyotes across the border and having a price put on my head.

    Lots of them just flat out quit in California because of that reason.

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    I would worry more about the cartels than illegals. The cartels are better armed than the Border Patrol and they would wipe their asses with the ing minutemen.

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    I would carry a gun too if I was getting death threats from Coyotes across the border and having a price put on my head.

    Lots of them just flat out quit in California because of that reason.
    I don't care if they have guns. You were ing about bad press.

    Pic with t-shirt hiked up intentionally to show gun improperly worn pointing towards = bad press.

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    Wow, they're like your heroes or something.

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    And that dude in the pic is definitely not retired law enforcement. I would say his credentials for leading this movement are a little dubious, to say nothing of his choice of holster.

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    And that dude in the pic is definitely not retired law enforcement. I would say his credentials for leading this movement are a little dubious, to say nothing of his choice of holster.
    Or his cap with all those pis on it.

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    I've got lots of clients down in deep south Texas (Hidalgo County and moving westward up the Rio Grande). Many of them are hispanic, and they're still for better border security.

    To a man they all say things are so bad down there that they have gone to the extent of making sure as soon as anyone in their family is old enough that they know how to fire every firearm in the house (and have multiple guns in their place).

    But hey, what do those guys living there know? Listen to the liberal media, they only speak the truth

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    I say, if a volunteer organization can team up with suppliers and property owners to secure our border, more power to 'em.

    , I'll even pitch in a few bucks.

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    Anyone remember when these same Minutemen went to the border last summer and pledged they would 'guard' the border for a month, but declared victory and went home two weeks early when their co-founder quit because of alleged racism within the group?


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    You might want to run background checks on some of those patriots before you give them any scratch. I'm all for better border security, but why not divert some more of this record federal spending to it instead of leaving it up to yahoos with guns in their crotches.

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    Anyone remember when these same Minutemen went to the border last summer and pledged they would 'guard' the border for a month, but declared victory and went home two weeks early when their co-founder quit because of alleged racism within the group?

    Hey, the US hasn't been attacked with a nuke from Mexico - so mission accomplished!

    Again!

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