I like to rub TNT and kiss the wick...is this answer acceptable?
If I start on him he might make a comment about my hair or clothes and then my feelings would be hurt!![]()
I like to rub TNT and kiss the wick...is this answer acceptable?
TNT is, IMO, wayyyy better.
Sir Charles is the best tv sports personality, period. Kenny is one of the best analysts and Ernie is the perfect straight man.
Tonight we get Reggie Miller on out broadcast team as well. He is becoming a very fine color commentator in his own right.
To met, that's the most obvious difference (that and the unscripted nature you already pointed out). TNT never feels rushed, and they're not trying to parcel time equally among everybody. , sometimes the camera never moves from Barkley for what seems like forever (mainly becaue it usually takes him longer to say his piece).
Kenny and Ernie are very efficient with their time, and don't seem to mind Barkley hogging it.
Some of the funniest moments are when the directors start the music so they can go to commercial and they just won't stop yammering.
ESPN is the worst. I feel puke rise in my throat every time Marv Albert says "downtown." And if I can't have Sean Elliot on a local broadcast, then I at least enjoy Charles Barkley on TNT. Gin-o-bi-li!![]()
The TNT analysis, production, and overall quality of show are much better. I don't really watch the pre or post game shows very much past any highlights of games I didn't see and actually care who won, but the segments I have watched seemed well done. It has to be difficult coming up with original ideas and stories because everything has to be centered around the basketball theme, but they do a better job of it than anyone else. For example, when Barkley had to kiss Kenny's "ass" after Yao scored 20 in a game during his first year. Then Kenny paraded a donkey on set and Barkely actually kissed the "ass"... that was different and somewhat creative.
There is only one thing I like about watching games on ESPN. ESPN is the only channel out of the three that I can get an HD feed to watch on my LCD HDTV. That makes a huge difference, this last game on Saturday was absolutely beautiful to watch in HD. Makes the picture almost seem 3D.
Sooooo True.
Don't forget that ESPN has just added Mark Jackson for this season. Just one more reason to criticize their pre and post game analysis. Don't get me wrong. Mark is knowledegable and should be respected because he played the game for so long. However, at time his commentary seems more of the "shock value" variety. Comments like, "when it's all said and done, Kobe Bryant will surpass Michael Jordan as the best basketball player ever".
Give me a f--king break!
Simply put, ESPN is style over substance. TNT is the exact opposite.
ESPN...
Who the WERE the people calling the first Kings/Spurs game?
Why do I care what that no name color commentator has to say?
ROFL...
HOOOOOOOOORIBLE!
Are you kidding me? Like each other? Have you ever seen Kenny get in one of his snits over something Charles says? He will cross his arms over his chest and refuse to talk. Like a mad little spoiled brat kid; he thinks everybody up there should bow down to him and believe everything he says as gospel. And Charles just laughs at him. He will say he won't talk anymore until Charles apologizes. It's hilarious, and part of the reason I love TNT broadcasts of NBA. I love all those guys...except Kenny...I can take him or leave him. But Charles rules!
I can't stand that turkey Marv Albert. What a sorry excuse for a sports commentator. The only ones I can think of that are worse are Bob Costas and Bill Walton.
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It is too bad the Laimbeer is not on any national sports coverage anymore. You can say whatever you want about Laimbeer the basketball player (and I know most outside of the Pistons realm will) but he is great when he is covering local Pistons games. He will tell you exactly how he feels and wil not mince words at all. Whether it be at the begining of games when he tells us that the Pistons should win tonight because the other teams is absolutley horrible, or when they give the out of town score board and he says something like this "It's Cleveland over New Jersey, Miami over the '76ers, Washington all over Orlando, and no one cares about Atlanta and the Knicks b/c those teams are going nowhere." He truly doesn't care what any one else thinks of him, and it makes for great basketball coverage.ESPN came in with the intent of providing a "player's perspective." That's why they hired Tolbert, Walton, Laimbeer, Majerle, Elliott, etc. Players tend to be more narrowly focused on one specific aspect of the game - shooting, scoring, the one-on-one duel. Coaches have to think more broadly about the game. They have to worry about 10 guys, not 2. That opens up the floor to see what's there if you listen to them as analysts.
ABC really needs to get rid of Hubie Brown. Though he is knowledagable about sports...he has no idea how to make the game sound exciting. I just don't understand how ABC thinks an 80 year old man calling the game is going to increase their ratings.
TNT is better than the others, but Reggie Miller has got the BIGGEST BAG OF NOTHING of any commentator on any channel. He's horrible...
The combo of Stockton / Miller was brutal for game 1 of the Mavs / Grizz. Constantly saying the wrong names of players, wrong team name, etc....at least 5 mistakes that I heard, and I didn't even listen to most of it since I was fast fwd'ing thru a bunch of the crap...
NO CONTEST TNT is the
ESPN and ABC suck ass. Pippen,Anthony, Legler and that screaming camel A Smith are just plain weak as commentators.
I remember last year they did a spot where they show George Erving w/some other old school players talking about basketball and what it takes to win championships, defense and stuff like that and said that San Antonio has all that. Then they showed the ESPN analysts faces, and they were speechless, they looked re ed cause they knew they belonged in the Piston/Heat bandwagons but couldn't argue with the truth spoken. Weak ass es.
I will give ABC one advanatage - Hubie Brown. I've enjoyed him over the years. He gives practical analysis that makes sense - even to the novice viewer. He has been and still is still the best NBA basketball analyst in the business - hands down!
I thought you liked old guys.![]()
I like Hubie for his content. His style sucks to high heaven, I agree. And he's annoying when he takes one team's viewpoint, like he consistenly did for the Lakers against PH, talking about what they needed to do to win. But his Xs/Os are far away better than anyone else's.
Hubie is one of the few guys that ABC has that knows what the he's talking about but he can't deliver any analysis in under five minutes. They should put him in the pre-game and half time crew instead. During the games his analysis (while spot on) drags on and on over the game play. Whenever he's calling a game I wind up shouting at my TV "Who was the foul on?" or "What was the call there?" because three or four possession will occur while he's making his point about how to defend the pick and roll.
For my money the worst basketball crew was NBC's. I said it a few days ago and I'll say it again. Any network that would put Bob Costas, Bill Walton, and Peter Vescey on the same crew deserves to lose its broadcasting license.
I will say this about TNT - I miss the "Inside the NBA" studio from 2001, 2002. When they had the scoreboard and the screen behind Charles, the scoreboard, and the blue lights on the floor that looked like water on the floor. It looks like a christmas tree in there right now. Too many lights, too many distractions.
tnt isd much better
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