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    You down wit' O.C.D.? Borosai's Avatar
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    Life in prison is far worse than the death penalty. Git'r done!

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    God damn, even their names sound like hick trash.

    I'm not a fan of attaching the "hate crime" label to charges to make the punishment more severe, but I'm willing to make an exemption here.

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    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    this is sad. just ing sad man. these ing punks deserve to burn in for this . roughing the dude up woulda been ty enought, but sticking a pipe in em and pouring the bleach.. whatever punishment these heads get is catching a break. i hope they pay for it, severely. hopefully the mexicans in there find out what these punks did..

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    Those boys deserved to be gangraped each and every day in prison until their intestines stick six inches out of each of their asses, and so they have a fistula into their bladder so that their stops up with their own .

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    I wonder if the 12-year old girl was a sister of either of the two attackers.

    Not that it would justify anything, but it would be an interesting element. Sounds like the racial aspect is being overplayed here.


    Exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. To me, I could understand someone getting pissed if a 16-year-old tried to kiss their 12-year-old sister. That is just gross. Of course the 16-year-old didn't deserve getting Ray Allened, but trying to kiss a 12-year-old wasn't the brightest move on his part.

    Plus, like Spurmintor said, I believe that the racial aspect is overplayed. They didn't attack him because he was "Hispanic", they attacked him because he tried to kiss the 12-year-old (alledgedly, of course). I believe they started throwing some slurs at him, but that shouldn't even register as part of the story. The rest of what they did to the kid was bad enough, calling him a or whatever when they were doing it shouldn't even be part of the story and I don't believe it was a hate crime.

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    Every crime IMO is a hate crime.

    Is there such a thing as a "loving nice crime"?

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    Exactly what I was thinking when I read the article. To me, I could understand someone getting pissed if a 16-year-old tried to kiss their 12-year-old sister. That is just gross. Of course the 16-year-old didn't deserve getting Ray Allened, but trying to kiss a 12-year-old wasn't the brightest move on his part.

    Plus, like Spurmintor said, I believe that the racial aspect is overplayed. They didn't attack him because he was "Hispanic", they attacked him because he tried to kiss the 12-year-old (alledgedly, of course). I believe they started throwing some slurs at him, but that shouldn't even register as part of the story. The rest of what they did to the kid was bad enough, calling him a or whatever when they were doing it shouldn't even be part of the story and I don't believe it was a hate crime.
    They use racial slurs while doing what they did to him and that's not worth mentioning?

    Yea, ok.

    And they definitely did hate him, obviously.

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    Some people need an introduction to the meaning of hate crimes.

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    Hate crime normally means you commit the crime against someone because of their race (ethnicity, sexual orientation). It doesn't mean that you happen to call them racial slurs while you are beating them up. So unless these two have some sort of history of hating Hispanics, then this probably cannot be categorized as a hate crime. Because it doesn't seem like they did this because of his race.

    Anyway, this is horrible. I'd like them to get the stiffest penalty possible if/when convicted.

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    Some people need an introduction to the meaning of hate crimes.
    No, I don't need an introduction to the meaning of hate crimes. It's easy for you to call someone stupid in so many words, but it doesn't really solve anything.

    They hated the kid, obviously. Now was it because of race? If so, legally it would be considered a hate crime if he dies, we can only go by the article.

    The article states that they beat him because he tried to kiss a "white girl" and they used racial slurs towards him while they beat and sodomized him.

    They did some pretty horrible things to him, it's not like they beat his butt and that's it and ran off. They took their time to sodomize the kid while using these racial slurs. That is hate, racial hate.

    If the article left out that it was their sister or some other crap like that, that's not our fault to assume what the writer actually wrote.

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    The article states that they beat him because he tried to kiss a "white girl" and they used racial slurs towards him while they beat and sodomized him.
    But did they beat him just because he was hispanic?

    If so, thats a hate crime, if they beat him up just because he wanted to kiss a 12 year old, then they are just ed up kids that took a beating too far.

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    not that it matters now, but i got to wondering who, if anybody, the guy went to the party with and where they were while this was going down. did he show up with other hispanics and was singled out soley because he tried to kiss a girl (btw, though she was only 12 this was hardly illegal. there are bigger offenders then teens attempting to kiss chicks 4 yrs their junior) or did he go solo? you would think if he went with friends they would have taken up for him or had his back. god, this type of really ing pisses me off. ing trailor trash hicks.
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    But did they beat him just because he was hispanic?

    If so, thats a hate crime, if they beat him up just because he wanted to kiss a 12 year old, then they are just ed up kids that took a beating too far.
    thats probably the understament of the year

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    But did they beat him just because he was hispanic?

    If so, thats a hate crime, if they beat him up just because he wanted to kiss a 12 year old, then they are just ed up kids that took a beating too far.
    On News4, Randy Beamer reported, they said the reason they did it was because he was Hispanic and he tried to kiss a "white girl".

    So much for people thinking this didn't have anything to do with race and that it was being exaggerated.
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    On News4, Randy Beamer reported, they said the reason they did it was because he was Hispanic and he tried to kiss a "white girl".

    So much for people not thinking this had anything to do with race and was being exxagerrated.
    I don't know how they concluded that it was because of race. Did the victim say that? Was the kissing thing just an excuse/were they going to beat him anyway? Were there witnesses to the crime? If so, why didn't they try to stop it?

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    On News4, Randy Beamer reported, they said the reason they did it was because he was Hispanic and he tried to kiss a "white girl".

    So much for people thinking this didn't have anything to do with race that it was being exaggerated
    Because you can believe EVERYTHING that is said on the news.

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    I don't know how they concluded that it was because of race. Did the victim say that? Was the kissing thing just an excuse/were they going to beat him anyway? Were there witnesses to the crime? If so, why didn't they try to stop it?
    I just spoke to Chris at News4 and he said the Police Officers reported, the reason the boys attacked him was because they were angry with the "Hispanic" because he tried to kiss a "white girl".

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    Because you can believe EVERYTHING that is said on the news.
    Nah, I don't believe much on Fox News.

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    , I'll scrape 'dem.

    I hope they go to jail and die.

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    I just spoke to Chris at News4 and he said the Police Officers reported, the reason the boys attacked him was because they were angry with the "Hispanic" because he tried to kiss a "white girl".
    That's not at all how the article read but if that's the case, then yeah it's a hate crime.

    Thank your friend Chris for the scoop

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    That's not at all how the article read but if that's the case, then yeah it's a hate crime.

    Thank your friend Chris for the scoop
    The article did pretty much say the same thing, they did it because he was Hispanic and tried to kiss a white girl.

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    I talked to Jose at News4 and he said it was age related.

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    I talked to Justino at ABC 12, and he said it was cause of age too.

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    I talked to Jose at News4 and he said it was age related.
    Wow, so the officers that were actually there, were lying?

    Also, one of the boys has Hitlers birthday tattooed on himself.
    Just something to think about.
    Last edited by SA210; 04-28-2006 at 12:40 AM.

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    Also, one of the boys has Hitlers birthday tattoed on himself.
    Just something to think about.
    That's interesting. Thanks for the info.

    I'll just pray for the victim. Hopefully the justice system comes thru and punishes the criminals rightfully.

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