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    Dude manu flopped and it got Artest suspended.
    Rip is not Artest.

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    Dude manu flopped and it got Artest suspended.
    I still think the Artest thing was based on his reputation. Rip doesn't have Artest's reputation.

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    Dude manu flopped and it got Artest suspended.
    He didn't fall to the ground or flail his arms, so I'm not sure how it's a flop unless you are saying Manu didn't actually get hit.

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    *sigh*

    We went over this with the Artest situation. The rule doesn't state anywhere that a player must be suspended for an elbow above the shoulders.

    It says that a player should be EJECTED for an elbow above the shoulders. And that they can look at the play later and decide the punishment (fine/suspension/whatever).
    why wasnt gino ejected from game2 at the very start then?

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    why wasnt gino ejected from game2 at the very start then?
    It was obviously ruled inadvertent. He was called for the foul three seconds later. I'm sure Stu Jackson looked at it.

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    Didn't appear Rip elbowed Redd intentionally. But, if he gets suspended for it, I would understand based on the other suspensions in the first few games. Really seems like the NBA is trying to really punish players for excessively physical play. I don't agree with it, but I understand.

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    If the NBA doesn't suspend him you'll see the conspiracy theorists out in full force, and the press will skewer the league for being hypocrites.

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    Kwame Brown=Suspended
    Rip=Suspended

    book it, btw thanks for making the playoffs Ron

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    that was an accidental elbow. Rip was jostling for position trying to get in front of Redd.

    No way in the world that will deserve a suspension.
    truely beautiful .....atleast i now know that its not only spurs fans who will declare their team not guilty even if the glove fits....

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    truely beautiful .....atleast i now know that its not only spurs fans who will declare their team not guilty even if the glove fits....

    Did you even see it? It was a big flop.

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    Both Kwame and Rip committed those fouls in the course of playing the game. Kwame may end up with a flagrant and a fine, but I doubt he gets suspended since both players got tangled up going for a rebound.

    Rip also committed the foul in the course of the game. I don't think he will get suspended either.

    Artest committed a "non-basketball" foul in that his actions were not directly related to the game itself, but outside the scope of the game, which is why he was suspended. Same for Posey and Haslem.

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    I only saw it once, didn't see the replays or anything, but from what I saw it didn't really look intentional. I don't think the NBA should suspend him, the only reason they would is if they're afraid of not looking consistent. That Artest suspension has thrown everything out of wack in that regard.

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    I don't know..to me Artest's look intentional (though I don't think he REALLY meant to hurt manu, I do think he meant to send a message). Brown's and Posey's looked intentional too.

    Rips just did NOT look intentional to me. It was closer to the hit Manu gave Artest.

    I believe its the question of intent that the league is looking at...and I have a feeling they will see it the same way with this one.

    Brown will get a suspension, Posey already has I believe. But Rip won't because it was not intentional...or at least thats how the league will see it IMO.

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    Both Kwame and Rip committed those fouls in the course of playing the game. Kwame may end up with a flagrant and a fine, but I doubt he gets suspended since both players got tangled up going for a rebound.

    Rip also committed the foul in the course of the game. I don't think he will get suspended either.

    Artest committed a "non-basketball" foul in that his actions were not directly related to the game itself, but outside the scope of the game, which is why he was suspended. Same for Posey and Haslem.
    no kwame is getting suspended. there is no question about it. after he elbowed diaw he stood over his body and stared at him. which proves it was intentional. if he doesnt get suspended then something is wrong.

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    yup hes to skinny to be Artest.

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    Kwame = suspended

    The contact was intentional.

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    that was an accidental elbow. Rip was jostling for position trying to get in front of Redd.

    No way in the world that will deserve a suspension.
    I didn't see the play. Quotes by Flp and Rip in a Det. News article this morning by McCoskey;

    In the fourth, Hamilton appeared to hit Redd with an elbow. Redd went down, theatrically, and drew the flagrant call from referee Danny Crawford .

    "I got hit the same way early in the game and it was no call," Hamilton said.

    A flagrant 1 call does not bring any kind of suspension or fine, but the league could upgrade it to flagrant 2 today.

    "I don't think it was," coach Flip Saunders said. "It looked to me like they got tangled up as far as with their feet, more than anything else."

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    I still think the Artest thing was based on his reputation. Rip doesn't have Artest's reputation.
    Definitely. Stu Jackson came right out and said that recidivism was a factor in his suspension.

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    Looked like an elbow push as opposed to a sharp elbow (splitting hairs?). Should earn him a game off. Dumb move by Kwame.

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    Hard to see that Kwame shot but it looked to me like it was above the shoulders. Deliberate for sure. By the terms of the rules if that was above the shoulders Kwame should get a day off.

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    Posey's was by far the worst and would have gotten him suspended in previous years, as well.

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    "was above the shoulders"

    no, Kwame's arm was under the other guy's armpit when throwing him down.

    Then, we have Chris Kaman last night, after dead ball, shoving hard with both hands right in the middle of Reggie Evans' back to send him flying off the court.

    I'm imagining a highlight compilation, with plenty of slo mo, of all the fights, shoves, elbows, jawing, etc. of these playoffs

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    Reggie is an annoying . There ought to be an exception to the rule on beating on him.

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    Hamilton's was an accident. I saw the replay, trust me, it was not intentional. The refs did the right thing to call it flagrant. By the way, Hamilton went up to Redd after the play and gave him a pat on the butt. I don't think he would have done that if he did it on purpose.

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