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    I won't be surprised if Colbert mysteriously disappears ala Dave Chappelle......

    Or ala Jimmy Hoffa......

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    Colbert for President

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    From Colbert's monologue the other night: "I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers and rubble and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message, that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound -- with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world."

    Thanks, I did hear that. I just wasn't sure (still am not) what was meant by "he made a job about a pile of rubble."

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    "standing on rubble" could easily be, obvious to me, the WTC rubble, an obviously staged photo-op meant to glorify dubya, who exploited WTC to justify his policy decision to go to war in Iraq no matter what.

    Now the captor of Saddam is now catpured by his own stinking mess of a Repug war.

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    Vashner's not only stupid, he's illiterate and inarcticulate, fairly typical of right-wing rabble in a state of permanent arousement.

    For "he made a job about a pile of rubble", try:

    "he made a jibe about a pile of rubble"

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    more post-dinner talk

    Colbert said:

    "Best of all, I got to meet my main man, President Bush," he said, and even had a chance to shake his hand. "He has very soft hands," Colbert revealed, "which was surprising. He must wear gloves when he is clearing brush."
    Colbert made fun of his mixed reception at the dinner, re-running the tape of one of his jokes with the audience barely reacting. He described this as "very respectful silence," and said that actually the crowd loved him.
    "They practically carried me out on their shoulders," he said, "even though I wasn't ready to go."

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    I hadn't commented on Colbert's performance because, well, I didn't see it and besides, it's intrinsically uninteresting as it's just another liberal with Bush Derangement Syndrome being lionized by the rest of the moonbat liberals with Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Richard Cohen made an excellent insight, however, and I thought I'd share:

    Why are you wasting my time with Colbert, I hear you ask. Because he is representative of what too often passes for political courage, not to mention wit, in this country. His defenders--and they are all over the blogosphere--will tell you he spoke truth to power. This is a tired phrase, as we all know, but when it was fresh and meaningful it suggested repercussions, consequences--maybe even death in some countries. When you spoke truth to power you took the distinct chance that power would smite you, toss you into a dungeon or--if you're at work--take away your office.

    But in this country, anyone can insult the president of the United States. Colbert just did it, and he will not suffer any consequence at all. He knew that going in.
    This, it seems to me, explains several conceits of the Angry Left:
    • The notion that criticism--whether of the Dixie Chicks or of Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer--amounts to censorship.

    • Claims by Democratic politicians that Republicans are "questioning" their "patriotism."

    • Fears of incipient fascism.

    What these have in common, aside from being totally fantastical, is that they all reinforce the image of the Angry Leftist as courageous dissenter. In truth, this country is so tolerant, indeed downright indulgent, of this sort of "dissent" that it affords no opportunity to be courageous.

    Speak "truth to power" in America, and power will pat you on the head and say, "What an adorable little puppy." Speak "truth to power" in North Korea and you lose your life.

    Some on the Angry Left could actually have the courage to stand up if they were faced with real consequences--but they are unlikely ever to get that chance. America's almost boundless tolerance thus reduces them to the level of petulant children. No wonder they're so angry.

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    I hadn't commented on Colbert's performance because....
    the right-wing bloggers hadn't told me what to think yet.

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    the right-wing bloggers hadn't told me what to think yet.
    No, most of them were all over this from day one.

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    Colbert's usually very funny. On his show, it's obvious that he's mocking Bill O'Reilly moreso than any particular politician. The satirical political commentary is totally appropriate when it's all wrapped up in the absurd self-made cult of personality on the show. The show is meant to be farce.

    That style does not translate at all to a roast, because the roast was not about Colbert. In a different setting, those jokes could have been very funny. In that particular setting, it fell completely flat.

    Jon Stewart could have handled that a lot better, even though he would be a less obvious choice than somebody whose claim to fame is spoofing right-wing media. It's not that the roasters were tone-deaf to the fact that Colbert's show is a spoof of Fox News. It's that they would have assumed that a comedian with his own TV show would have the comedic sensibility to tailor his material to the audience. He failed miserably.

    And no, lefties, though you may cheer, this sort of thing doesn't change anybody's minds. It just makes you look like cowardly cheap-shot artists.

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    Funny, I thought it worked well and the cowards were the ones who started this phony war based on lies.

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    Colbert received many laughs for his routine. Of course he was mocking Bill O'Lielly, that is who he models his show on.

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    "it fell completely flat"

    Because he was skewering both dubya and the lapdog, flaccid press in the audience. People don't like to be cut so close to the bone (of truth).

    Colberts's strength was the truth thinly veiled in his humor that dubya had lied his way into Iraq and the press shut up and let him do it.

    Congrats to Colbert for turning an opportunity for mindless entertainment into an opportunity for speaking truthiness. It was funny and entertaining, but on a higher, more intelligent level than most people can appreciate.

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    Congrats to Colbert for turning an opportunity for mindless entertainment into an opportunity for speaking truthiness. It was funny and entertaining, but on a higher, more intelligent level than most people can appreciate.
    Do y'all understand what "truthiness" means? In the context you just used it, you just congratulated Colbert for telling you what you wanted to hear.

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    Do y'all understand what "truthiness" means? In the context you just used it, you just congratulated Colbert for telling you what you wanted to hear.
    As if you really don't understand what he is saying.

    The truth, exactly what this administration doesn't give. You understand.

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    As if you really don't understand what he is saying.

    The truth, exactly what this administration doesn't give. You understand.
    The only people who appreciated that act are the ones who hate Bush to begin with. Liberals are cheering like this is some triumph, when it was the rhetorical equivalent of keying the White House limo, or kicking Bush in the crotch. Somebody who doesn't already despise Bush just sees Colbert as a jackass.

    Now you might really enjoy kicking W in the groin and seeing him in pain. But obviously, you would lose all credibility as an activist if you did that.

    In other words, it makes you feel good to see Colbert get back at someone you hate for a brief moment, but it accomplishes nothing towards the political mission you purportedly are trying to pursue, and may in fact harm it.

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    The only people who appreciated that act are the ones who hate Bush to begin with. Liberals are cheering like this is some triumph, when it was the rhetorical equivalent of keying the White House limo, or kicking Bush in the crotch. Somebody who doesn't already despise Bush just sees Colbert as a jackass.

    Now you might really enjoy kicking W in the groin and seeing him in pain. But obviously, you would lose all credibility as an activist if you did that.

    In other words, it makes you feel good to see Colbert get back at someone you hate for a brief moment, but it accomplishes nothing towards the political mission you purportedly are trying to pursue, and may in fact harm it.
    Unless the comedic target has the lowest recorded approval rating of all time.

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    Unless the comedic target has the lowest recorded approval rating of all time.
    Non sequitur.

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    Colbert's roasting of W won't hurt anyone's political cause because nobody likes W to begin with. W is going to get no sympathy on this one.

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    "the ones who hate Bush to begin with."

    The legions are growing daily. All dubya has left are the ideological mofo's at the asymptote of approval who would support him/Repugs no matter what he did. The dubya administration, as war criminals, is fully worthy of hate, and impeachment.

    Colbert's act was just one more nail in the coffin, one more wave in the tide sweeping the Repugs out of office, of the most disastrous, most anti-democratic, most secretive and imperial administration since that other Repug shining star, Trickie ie Nixon.

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    The only people who appreciated that act are the ones who hate Bush to begin with. Liberals are cheering like this is some triumph, when it was the rhetorical equivalent of keying the White House limo, or kicking Bush in the crotch. Somebody who doesn't already despise Bush just sees Colbert as a jackass.

    Now you might really enjoy kicking W in the groin and seeing him in pain. But obviously, you would lose all credibility as an activist if you did that.

    In other words, it makes you feel good to see Colbert get back at someone you hate for a brief moment, but it accomplishes nothing towards the political mission you purportedly are trying to pursue, and may in fact harm it.
    He called people out, and I respect him for it. Call it hate, but the truth of the matter is they are liars and people are dead because of it. If someone hates those actions by the Bush administration, so be it.

    Seems like Bush is the one with the credibility problem by the way. Numbers just keep sinking, don't they?

    But if you want to call people cowards for questioning the cowardly acts of this administration for sending thousands to there death, then go ahead, it somehow turned into the "Christian" thing to do.

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    Colbert's roasting of W won't hurt anyone's political cause because nobody likes W to begin with. W is going to get no sympathy on this one.
    People can disapprove of the President and yet still think Colbert was being a jackass. Disapproval is not the same thing as foaming-at-the-mouth hatred.

    Given that most of the country in fact does disapprove of the President, lefties would be wise not to call attention to themselves by acting like complete assholes, inasmuch as the general public disapproves of complete assholes at least as much as they do the President.

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    People can disapprove of the President and yet still think Colbert was being a jackass. Disapproval is not the same thing as foaming-at-the-mouth hatred.

    Given that most of the country in fact does disapprove of the President, lefties would be wise not to call attention to themselves by acting like complete assholes, inasmuch as the general public disapproves of complete assholes at least as much as they do the President.
    but in order for there to be a backlash against Colbert and democratic/liberal "political movements," the public in general would have to sympathize and feel sorry for Bushie. That ain't gonna happen.

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    but in order for there to be a backlash against Colbert and democratic/liberal "political movements," the public in general would have to sympathize and feel sorry for Bushie. That ain't gonna happen.
    Yeah, just ask the Dixie Chicks.

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    He called people out, and I respect him for it. Call it hate, but the truth of the matter is they are liars and people are dead because of it. If someone hates those actions by the Bush administration, so be it.

    Seems like Bush is the one with the credibility problem by the way. Numbers just keep sinking, don't they?

    But if you want to call people cowards for questioning the cowardly acts of this administration for sending thousands to there death, then go ahead, it somehow turned into the "Christian" thing to do.
    I don't think Colbert is a coward. I think his act just fell flat to everyone except the moonbats because, funny as his show may be, he showed himself to be a one-trick pony.

    And it's astounding how you lefties can cut off your nose to spite your face. All you have to do is not act like complete idiots that scare away voters, and the Democratic Party probably will take back Congress and effectively neuter the last two years of Bush's presidency. But you just can't do it. You have to walk around naked carrying pigs' heads on platters. It's who you are.

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