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To those who hate Kobe and say he does stuff all the time,
1.I'VE NEVER WITNESS KOBE GRABBING SOMEONE AND SLAMMING THEM TO THE FLOOR
2. If Bell did that to Manu/Tim/Tony/INSERT SPURS player you'd want him suspended for a looooooooooong time.
The video of Bell's clothesline of Kobe is on this page.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=260502021
I don't think there's anyway that they don't suspend him.
To those who hate Kobe and say he does stuff all the time,
1.I'VE NEVER WITNESS KOBE GRABBING SOMEONE AND SLAMMING THEM TO THE FLOOR
2. If Bell did that to Manu/Tim/Tony/INSERT SPURS player you'd want him suspended for a looooooooooong time.
He could have said I really didn't see it that well so I'm not sure what happened. Or something along those lines.
I don't even think I can explain how I feel about that foul, it makes Ron Artest look like a pussy cat....
um nash was right in front of both of them when the incident took place...i believe he was the closest among the other players
Ummm ... Nash was standing right in front of Kobe and Raja when it happened, about a foot away. Don't think he could have said he didn't really see it or wasn't sure what happened.
Bell is a thug...he should get a suspension and probably would since you know David Stern is...
He does have a point, Kwame and Reggie should have been suspended. The NBA has been inconsistent in levying suspensions.
All three should have been suspended.
"I'VE NEVER WITNESS KOBE GRABBING SOMEONE AND SLAMMING THEM TO THE FLOOR"
Did you catch Kobe elbowing Mike Miller in the Adam's apple this season?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5207954
So you're defending Kobe a clean player by splitting frog's hair that a throw-down is worse than a shot to the throat?
And if Ron Artest was suspended in part because his past was taken into consideration, then that should apply here as well. I've always said that Raja Bell is one of the dirtiest players in the league. I hate that er.
I dislike Kobe because of his ego and his off-the-court antics, but imho he is not a dirty player.
Come on, it's not like Bell raped him.
Kobe was being dumb and trying to assert himself in the beginning of the season, as tough in front of his new Laker scrubs. with his "This is MY Court, MY TEAM" at ude..
Normally he's not really dirty. Or doesn't usually do that . I think it depends on the compe ion, on occasion if he smells frustration he tries to get in their head and probably pops a few elbows to the gut, inadvertently or not--caught in the moment whatever. He's done it against Wade.
just like how Manu frustrates players cuz he's physical, he was clotheslined all last postseason and taken down hard. So by now, Kobe's pretty much used to it. He probably likes it now.
Anyway that Clothesline Take DOWN to Kobe was NOT as dangerous as an ELBOW JUT TO THE THROAT. That can cause serious injury to the player at risk. Bell was just an enraged idiot performing wrestling moves in a basketball game.
I just saw it on ESPN, Suns better finds someone else to guard Kobe next game cause Raja is staying in PHX!!!!!!!
yeah but if he doesnt get suspended how do you think Ron Artest will react over such a call. Ron is already crying that he is the most watched after player in the NBA why not suspend bell for giving the Rock Bottom to Kobe
That was pretty bad. Not only did Bell grab Kobe around his kneck and twist him around, the then used his other arm to push him down. Kobe litterally bounces on the hardwood floor if you look at the video.
He'll definitely be suspended next game, no question. And that foul by Kwame Brown people are comparing it to isn't even close. What I don't get is, why is Bell so dumb? It's not like the Suns were losing the game. I know he and Kobe were getting into some heated fights out there, but still. He could have given Kobe a hard foul on his way to the basket...he didn't have to make such an obvious flagarant.
Just saw the play. Flagrant and ejection. No suspension necessary. IMO
We got alot of drama queens around here, bell wasn't trying to hurt kobe and it really wasn't that bad at all. It was a dumb move no question but all he did was grab kobe and trip him to the ground, oh no! Just give him a big fine and move on. The whole suspensions thing has gotten way out of had and players are still playing physical, if the league really wants to send a message they should just fine the players big amounts of money.
You guys are so hypocritical it's not even funny. How many times has Bowen crossed the line with Vince Carter or Ray Allen? How is this any different?
Difference is Raja Bell made it completely obvious he wasn't going for the basketball at all, and not only did he wrap his arm around Kobe's neck, but he shoved Kobe to the ground as well.
I agree that it isn't as bad as some people think. A foul like that in the 1980s would probably not even result in an ejection.
But, simply based on the suspensions in the playoffs so far, Raja Bell should be suspended.
I saw it 2 times
it is not that bad
I think he will be suspened or it will be upgraded to flagrant 2
I was already called a flagrant 2 on the court.
If they suspend Bell, they need to suspend Kobe. He threw an elbow that was a lot worse than Artest's elbow to Manu in game 1, that is a fact.
I think the NBA offices try to determine intent. I think that's why Manu didn't get suspended or Rip Hamilton didn't get suspended for their elbows. Even if Kobe's elbow was worse than Artest, it could easily be interpreted that Kobe wasn't intentionally trying to elbow people because the elbow was just the way he was playing. There is little doubt that what Raja Bell was premeditated, was a result of malicious intent, and was not in the flow or course of the game. While it's still a subjective determination, I think it's a distinction that can be easily made when reviewing the respective plays.
Bell wants kobe too...bell doesn't back down from anyone. i like raja beel because if i was in the NBA...i would be doing the same things to kobe. kobe always elbows bell and cheapshots bell...so he eserves what bell gave to him. they shouldnt suspend raja because both walton and kwame (but more kwame though) need to be suspended for theirs. plus the league needs to make up for the game 4 fiasco where they cheated the suns when walton had his foot out of bounds on the tie up
I see yes it was against kobe
Because Kobe is too busy trying to land elbows on throats.
That foul wasn't as bad as some here make it sound. We've all seen the clip and its pretty obvious he wasn't trying to hurt Kobe. It actually looks like he tries to hold him up a bit, albeit by his neck, before he hits the ground.
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