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    I want to see the police mgmt get fired more than this guy. The crime was the coverup not the DUI. It's the dirty cops that worry me.

    Drunk congressman? That's normal...

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    I want to see the police mgmt get fired more than this guy. The crime was the coverup not the DUI. It's the dirty cops that worry me.

    Drunk congressman? That's normal...
    I concur.

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    Widespread corruption and abuse of power in the repug party doesn't get Yoni's blood boiling, but he's ready to pop an anuerysm because Ted Kennedy's son could potentially get away with a (gasps)....Misdemeanor. The humanity!!!
    Rich Galen looks at another Democratic Congressman with some woes of his own.
    Thursdays papers were chock full of a report that a guy named Vernon L. Jackson had plead guilty to bribing Democratic Congressman William J. Jefferson of Louisiana on some Nigerian Internet deal he wanted to sell to the US government.

    Jefferson denied any involvement, saying he was "surprised and disappointed to learn of Vernon Jackson's guilty plea."

    We have a guy who has plead guilty to bribing Jefferson. Not guilty of ATTEMPTED bribery. Bribery.

    Bribery requires a briber and a bribee. To believe that Vernon Jackson could bribe William Jefferson without William Jefferson actually taking a bribe from Vernon Jackson requires a suspension of disbelieve amounting to a religious adherence to the concept of an immaculate deception.

    This is a pretty complicated case, bribe-wise, but the shorthand appears to be that Congressman Jefferson demanded that money be paid to a phony company set up by his wife and son. If Jefferson is going to claim that the money went to his family and not to him and so he was never bribed, he is going to be laughed right out of court and right into the federal slammer.

    You have to read the whole thing to get a sense of the scale of this thing. According to the LA Times, the Vice President of Nigeria is involved. The Vice President of Nigeria is not exactly living in Nigeria.

    No. According to the LAT federal agents, "obtained a search warrant against the vice president of Nigeria, who owns a mansion in Potomac, Md., where he lives with a wife who holds U.S. citizenship."

    Talk about a Vice President in a secret undisclosed location.
    Duke mingham must be grateful to have someone else take the spotlight for egregiously corrupt behavior. Of course, Jefferson won't get the play in the media that Cunningham (deservedly) or Tom DeLay (undeservedly) received. Nancy Pelosi will still intone about the "culture of corruption" despite all evidence that the culture is bipartisan.

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    Crude, but apt. And, on a serious not, why on earth is a lost, pathetic nonen y like Patrick Kennedy a member of Congress? What possesses people in his Rhode Island district--does he have some connection with Rhode Island?--to vote for him? Can the people of Rhode Island possibly be proud of being represented by a slow-witted, uninformed young man with admitted psychiatric and drug problems? I assume not.

    So why is Patrick Kennedy a Congressman? And why on earth can't the presumably-sane people who live in his district vote him out?

    Obviously, Kennedy is a Congressman because of his last name. But the question is not an idle one. We live in an era in which most people are puzzled by the actions of Congress: Why are there earmarks? Why can't the majority rule on issues like immigration? Why is it impossible to talk rationally about issues like Social Security and energy costs? Why can't spending be cut? Ever, for anything?

    I wouldn't push this theory too far, since, obviously, the Kennedys are close to unique in American politics. But still: maybe the dysfunction that is so obvious in Patrick Kennedy's case is a window onto a more pervasive problem. Maybe the same weird, but real, forces that result in a nonen y like Kennedy being an entrenched member of Congress help to explain why the ins ution as a whole is so unresponsive to Americans' needs and preferences.

    And in this veign, as someone who has voted for him twice, how the does GW have such a succesfull political career? If not for being his father's son, dude is an insurance salesman (and not a particularly good one).

    This country has a serious problem of who is becoming politicians, and ultimately our leaders.

    Bush, Gore, Kerry - you mean since '00 THOSE have been the sum total of our choices. I'll take door #4, thank you, and just go with whatever it is.

    There is more serious, informed and passionate debate on this board, on both sides, than EVER exists in Washington, radio, TV or anywhere; I mean it's not just the politicians, its the idiots, knee-jerks and entertainers that cover them, as well. Has anybody ever met a Journalism major and thought, "damn, there's some brain-power there!"

    Clinton was too slick, and smart enough to get over whenever he needed to, Bush is too dumb, Cheney's always up to something (not the least of which, net worth). AND there are not politicians on the near horizon who look like they have the stones and intelligence to change it.

    Hillary?

    McCain?

    Even the debates are now ridiculous. It's just too easy to find enough stupid, corrupt or unpatriotic things any number of Republicans OR Democrats have done! I hated the way Democrats ran Congress. I hate the way Republicans are running Congress.

    Gridlock, I believe, is the start of the answer. I think Democrats need to go ahead and grab Congress, then they can spend the next two years investigating Bush, and can't spend so much time writing bad laws.

    Then they can take the White House in '08, while surrendering at least one house back to the Republicans, and we can get back to nothing happening - which is the most we can hope for, if we continue to make people like this our "leaders".

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    "Going to make a vote"

    Pulling that hoping the cons ution would save his drunk ass.

    Why was he even worried? He's a freaking Kennedy! A little bad press, but ain't nothing gonna come of this.

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    Yea he has the standard Kennedy "MEDIA PASS"

    He was sleepwalking. Just like Ted when that lady was drowning underwater..

    Damn that Ambien..

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    And in this veign, as someone who has voted for him twice, how the does GW have such a succesfull political career? If not for being his father's son, dude is an insurance salesman (and not a particularly good one).

    This country has a serious problem of who is becoming politicians, and ultimately our leaders.

    Bush, Gore, Kerry - you mean since '00 THOSE have been the sum total of our choices. I'll take door #4, thank you, and just go with whatever it is.

    There is more serious, informed and passionate debate on this board, on both sides, than EVER exists in Washington, radio, TV or anywhere; I mean it's not just the politicians, its the idiots, knee-jerks and entertainers that cover them, as well. Has anybody ever met a Journalism major and thought, "damn, there's some brain-power there!"

    Clinton was too slick, and smart enough to get over whenever he needed to, Bush is too dumb, Cheney's always up to something (not the least of which, net worth). AND there are not politicians on the near horizon who look like they have the stones and intelligence to change it.

    Hillary?

    McCain?

    Even the debates are now ridiculous. It's just too easy to find enough stupid, corrupt or unpatriotic things any number of Republicans OR Democrats have done! I hated the way Democrats ran Congress. I hate the way Republicans are running Congress.

    Gridlock, I believe, is the start of the answer. I think Democrats need to go ahead and grab Congress, then they can spend the next two years investigating Bush, and can't spend so much time writing bad laws.

    Then they can take the White House in '08, while surrendering at least one house back to the Republicans, and we can get back to nothing happening - which is the most we can hope for, if we continue to make people like this our "leaders".
    Straying off topic a bit? Bush is kicking ass ....

    If you want to do a "door 4" or whatever make another thread.

    let's talk about this subject.

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    If he was drinking and driving and got away with it, it's a crime.

    If he was using sleeping pills and driving and got away with it, it's a crime.

    Gee, a rich guy might be getting away with something the regular Joe wouldn't, like John Edwards said (and I said in an earlier thread) "two Americas".

    It's wrong, I hope he has to pay for his offense in a manner becoming the cir stances.

    Now back to Republican corruption and the fleecing of America.

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    ^^ if that is in response to my post, that is not what I am saying at all. Folks on the right are going to spin this as a Kennedy getting away with something again. This is red meat for those folks and they will roll in it like a hound dog on a dead animal.

    If he was "sleep driving" then it's just a terribly embarassing incident and thankfully no one was hurt.

    As a Democrat, if we want to nail the Republicans to the wall on the corruption issue, we have to expect no less from our side. That is why I was glad to see Nancy Pelosi call for an ethics investigation on William Jefferson.

    Your turn Mr. Hastert.

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    May I just ask, what difference does it make what he did? He will go to
    rehab, he will come out as the fair haired child and he will be re-elected. That
    is the recent history of this country. Get over it. He is the from the family of
    our American Royalty. Sad fact, but true.

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    May I just ask, what difference does it make what he did? He will go to
    rehab, he will come out as the fair haired child and he will be re-elected. That
    is the recent history of this country. Get over it. He is the from the family of
    our American Royalty. Sad fact, but true.
    Sounds like Dubya

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    May I just ask, what difference does it make what he did? He will go to
    rehab, he will come out as the fair haired child and he will be re-elected. That
    is the recent history of this country. Get over it. He is the from the family of
    our American Royalty. Sad fact, but true.
    That statement seems a little more Bush than Kennedy, but I see where you're coming from, especially after 101A's post.

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    Ray is probably right about being re-elected. Ultimately, when it comes to whether this is a big deal or not is up to the voters in his district.

    Tom Delay was indicted, had several reprimands from the House Ethics Committee and is neck deep in the Abramoff thing, yet the voters (at least in the primary) voted to return him.

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    Louis P. Cannon, president of the Washington chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police, who was not on the scene, said the congressman had appeared intoxicated when he crashed his Ford Mustang into a barrier on Capitol Hill.

    "The officers on the scene, it is my understanding, smelled alcohol. And based on his demeanor and their experience, believed him to be intoxicated," Cannon told Chen.'

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    The officer who publicly claimed Kennedy smelled of alcohol wasn't even at the scene...

    He reported what the "other" officers (you know, the ones that were dismissed) who were at the scene reported dan, quit being so dense!

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    What the was he thinking!?

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    Rep Kennedy seeks drug abuse help

    Fri May 5, 2006 5:49pm ET


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One day after he crashed his car near the U.S. Capitol, Rep. Patrick Kennedy, son of Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy, said on Friday he would seek treatment for a long-term drug abuse problem.

    "This afternoon I am traveling to Minnesota to seek treatment at the Mayo Clinic to insure that I can continue on my road to recovery," Kennedy, a Rhode Island Democrat, told reporters.

    Kennedy said he was a patient last winter at the clinic, receiving care for an addiction to prescription pain medicine.


    His announcement came shortly after a U.S. Capitol Police report showed Kennedy, 38, was charged with three driving violations after he crashed his car into a Capitol Hill security barrier early Thursday.

    In an earlier statement, Kennedy said he had become disoriented because of medicine and sleeping pills.

    Kennedy said he had been "fighting this chronic disease since I was a young man" and wanted to continue working for his cons uents in Rhode Island.

    "I need to stay in the fight," said the six-term congressman who was re-elected with 64 percent of the vote in 2004.

    Kennedy said he had no recollection of the crash. "I simply do not remember getting out of bed, being pulled over by the police or being cited for three driving infractions." Continued...

    http://today.reuters.com/news/newsar...src=rss&rpc=22

    Hopefully he takes this rehab seriously before he hurts or kills someone.

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    BS, he blames it on a drug that was just prescribed to him and tries to pass it off like it was a medication failure then the next day goes to rehab?

    Regardless if it was alcohol, lsd or paint thinner. The dude was driving blitzed out of his mind.

    , here in republican SoDak we were so disgusted with Janklow's BS of saying it was medication (we're not as stupid) that not only did we vote Hereseth in over the repub challenger, we did it twice. And all he did was a stopsign violation. Most people its a daily occurence, although not in that extreme.

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