Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 60
  1. #26
    Believe. A-Train's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Post Count
    635
    Come on Shank, don't be a "corporate ho".

  2. #27
    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    11,245
    Gotten HIM anywhere or gotten the league anywhere? He's not in it for personal gain. He wants the game to always be referreed fairly, be it for his team or another. He wants it to be consistent - if a foul is called one way on one guy, then it needs to be called the same way on another.
    So when he sees a Mav committing a foul he complains to the refs about poor reffing, right. THey must just not be showing those sideline shots of Marky.

  3. #28
    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Post Count
    12,900
    Gotten HIM anywhere or gotten the league anywhere? He's not in it for personal gain. He wants the game to always be referreed fairly, be it for his team or another. He wants it to be consistent - if a foul is called one way on one guy, then it needs to be called the same way on another.
    romanticize much? give us a break!

  4. #29
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    6,035
    romanticize much? give us a break!
    What does Mark Cuban, as a person, receive by overall better officiating around the league? Will it fix his haircut or make him more money? No - the product, as a whole, becomes better - be it for his team or the others.

  5. #30
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    it is nice to see the owner once in awhile but at everygame? on the floor going off on a ref
    COME ONE that is not right

  6. #31
    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    24,176
    Gotten HIM anywhere or gotten the league anywhere? He's not in it for personal gain. He wants the game to always be referreed fairly, be it for his team or another. He wants it to be consistent - if a foul is called one way on one guy, then it needs to be called the same way on another.
    if he really wanted officiating to be even across the board, he would have his stat boys at NBA games other than mavs games. he wants games to be called favorably for the mavs. he has been consistent about that for years, but you have to understand how annoying that is to fans of teams other than the mavs. if i were a mavs fan i would probably like cubes, he does a lot of great stuff for the fans - i hear next year they are lowering ticket prices, which is unheard of in this day and age. but his act gets tiresome to fans of other teams.

  7. #32
    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Post Count
    12,900
    What does Mark Cuban, as a person, receive by overall better officiating around the league? Will it fix his haircut or make him more money? No - the product, as a whole, becomes better - be it for his team or the others.
    oh... I see... so when he complains to the league about bad officiating on a Mavericks game, he's just doing the noble thing, right?
    Last edited by MaNuMaNiA; 05-08-2006 at 09:40 AM.

  8. #33
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    does he complain about the refs when the spurs play another team other then the mavs?

  9. #34
    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    12,476
    mark cuban s about reffing and does it constantly & publicaly because it brings attention to him and his team = $$$$

    ever notice when he posts lists of ref inacuracies that the "missed" calls are about 90% in the Mavs favor with 10% for the opponants thrown in for good measure?

  10. #35
    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    12,476
    does he complain about the refs when the spurs play another team other then the mavs?

    I'd like to see a list of ref innaccuracies on Cubans blog from any given EC regualr season game.

    Further I would liek to see him get real heated about it & air his grievences abotu said game on at least 2 top sports shows and perhaps Leno.

  11. #36
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    6,035
    And how do you know he doesn't look at the other games? Read his entry from yesterday. Does it mention the Spurs/Mavs matchup at all?

    Contrary to what you think, the word "maverick" in "blogmaverick" isn't about his NBA team.

  12. #37
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    why did he not write that arctile early before the mavs lost then?
    and why was cuban on the floor then wrote that article that same day

  13. #38
    Roll The Dice Hook Dem's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Post Count
    6,877
    And how do you know he doesn't look at the other games? Read his entry from yesterday. Does it mention the Spurs/Mavs matchup at all?

    Contrary to what you think, the word "maverick" in "blogmaverick" isn't about his NBA team.
    Me thinks Shank is Cuban's illegetimate son!

  14. #39
    Believe. CubanMustGo's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    10,567
    Check this out: I'm not the only one to say , Markie did just a few minutes ago when he closed the comment feature for the latest blog entry and removed the ones that were there:

    Note:This was written BEFORE the playoffs started. It wasnt posted till after I had presented this to the league. I stand corrected on the lack of 4 games in a night. There have been. THat doesnt change the validity of the concept. Rather than using the playoffs as an opportunity to promote officials, it should be where only the very best officials work.

    I have also turned off comments because as I feared, they end up being off topic.

    Bwahahahahaha!

  15. #40
    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    24,176
    And how do you know he doesn't look at the other games? Read his entry from yesterday. Does it mention the Spurs/Mavs matchup at all?

    Contrary to what you think, the word "maverick" in "blogmaverick" isn't about his NBA team.
    he didn't have to mention it directly. so he wrote it after watching the pistons/cavs game?

  16. #41
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    6,035
    And your point?

  17. #42
    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    6,232
    I've gotta argue against the idea of officials working back to back games in the playoffs. You think they suck now, what are the complaints going to be like when they make a questionable/bad call because they are tired?

    Yeah, I'd like to see it then. I think he's wrong about halving the number of refs eligible being poor business strategy.

  18. #43
    9mm nkdlunch's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    11,497
    I'm down for keeping Cuban's dumbass in front row and annoying the out of Avery and his Mav players during the games. Extra distraction. Thanks from a Spur fan Cuban.

  19. #44
    Veteran velik_m's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    9,180
    less refs = bigger chance of getting specific ref for your game = bigger danger of bribing
    it's a multimillion dollar business, give them a chance and someone will do it sooner or later.

  20. #45
    Believe.
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    3


    Maybe. But probably just some weird Time Warner issue. If I restart my modem, it will probably work fine. That happens sometimes with some sites for some reason.
    Turn off the P0rn block and it works.

  21. #46
    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Post Count
    19,921
    Notwithstanding any relationship to the game played yesterday, I think the merits of Cuban's argument here are poor. With as many as 56 first round games, the notion of having only 12 or so officials calling those games is ridiculous. The notion of having 12 or so officials calling as many as 28 conference semifinal games is only slightly more plausible.

    What Cuban misses in his argument is that the playoffs become a development ground for younger officials who will someday be in the 12 Finals-level officials. Who does Cuban expect to call the big games when Joey Crawford, Bavetta, Jack Nies, Bernie Fryer, and some of the other older officials retire? Does he expect that if a guy like, say, Derrick Stafford or Greg Willard, is just suddenly going to be thrown into a Finals environment without having any previous playoff experience, that he'll be ready to call that game the way it should be called? It's ridiculous.

    Cuban's argument also ignores the way the league assigns officials to playoff games in the here and now. Yes, there are 30+ officials who work first round games, but many of them work 1 game and are done. Others work several games until each series reaches Game 4 and then they are done. The officials in those groups are always surrounded by 2 officials who will end up working deep into the playoffs. For instance, in Game 2 of the Spurs/Kings series, the crew was Bavetta, Joe Forte, and Bill Kennedy. Kennedy didn't call a game after that one, but when he did get to call a game, he was embedded with two guys who've called Finals games. By the time the league is at Games 5, 6, and 7 in a first round series, the only officials working are those who will be calling games in Round 2.

    The same thing applies to each subsequent round. In Round 2, when 24 or so officials are working games, a guy like Sean Corbin will work games until each series reaches Game 4, and then he and several others will be done. The officials calling Games 5, 6, and 7 of those series will be guys who will be working into the Conference Finals (and the Game 7 officials will only be guys who will work the Finals). There are 18 or so officials in the Conference Finals and Games 5, 6 and 7 of that round will be left exclusively to the Finals-level officials.

    I think the NBA's system is actually quite sensible in that it provides experience in big environments in the early stages of series. It allows younger officials who've shown themselves to be sufficiently competent to work in a playoff environment and develop a feel for the intensity of playoff games while working with the top officials in the league. It ensures that when the guys who are the top officials retire, that there will be a group of younger, experienced officials who can step in and maintain the level. I can see an argument related to the iden ies of those who are allowed to officiate playoff games, but I don't see an argument for limiting how many officials work playoff games any further than it's already limited.

  22. #47
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Post Count
    41,715
    This is also the guy that brought the Mavericks out of the dumps and into annual 50-60+ win seasons. He reshaped the NBA in Dallas and brought the city the AAC and now, Victory Plaza.
    You know so staggeringly little about your own ing team that you are well on your way to superstar status in the moronic opposing fan hall of fame. Finley, Dirk and Nash were all with the Mavericks when Cuban bought the team, but Nash wasn't starting. They had support players like Bradley, Ceballos and Greg Buckner. In the first of a long line of stupid decisions, Cuban promptly signed Dennis Rodman and watched the team chemistry go to as they lost 8 of their next ten games. The Mavericks went on to miss the playoffs by like 4 games less than three months into Cuban's ownership. Please don't act like it was the ing Quinn Buckner days when Cuban swooped in and rescued the franchise, because it's just wrong.

    So aside from letting face-painters in free, paying a half a million dollars in fines and putting Playstations in all the lockers what did he really do for his team and my city?

  23. #48
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    Notwithstanding any relationship to the game played yesterday, I think the merits of Cuban's argument here are poor. With as many as 56 first round games, the notion of having only 12 or so officials calling those games is ridiculous. The notion of having 12 or so officials calling as many as 28 conference semifinal games is only slightly more plausible.

    What Cuban misses in his argument is that the playoffs become a development ground for younger officials who will someday be in the 12 Finals-level officials. Who does Cuban expect to call the big games when Joey Crawford, Bavetta, Jack Nies, Bernie Fryer, and some of the other older officials retire? Does he expect that if a guy like, say, Derrick Stafford or Greg Willard, is just suddenly going to be thrown into a Finals environment without having any previous playoff experience, that he'll be ready to call that game the way it should be called? It's ridiculous.

    Cuban's argument also ignores the way the league assigns officials to playoff games in the here and now. Yes, there are 30+ officials who work first round games, but many of them work 1 game and are done. Others work several games until each series reaches Game 4 and then they are done. The officials in those groups are always surrounded by 2 officials who will end up working deep into the playoffs. For instance, in Game 2 of the Spurs/Kings series, the crew was Bavetta, Joe Forte, and Bill Kennedy. Kennedy didn't call a game after that one, but when he did get to call a game, he was embedded with two guys who've called Finals games. By the time the league is at Games 5, 6, and 7 in a first round series, the only officials working are those who will be calling games in Round 2.

    The same thing applies to each subsequent round. In Round 2, when 24 or so officials are working games, a guy like Sean Corbin will work games until each series reaches Game 4, and then he and several others will be done. The officials calling Games 5, 6, and 7 of those series will be guys who will be working into the Conference Finals (and the Game 7 officials will only be guys who will work the Finals). There are 18 or so officials in the Conference Finals and Games 5, 6 and 7 of that round will be left exclusively to the Finals-level officials.

    I think the NBA's system is actually quite sensible in that it provides experience in big environments in the early stages of series. It allows younger officials who've shown themselves to be sufficiently competent to work in a playoff environment and develop a feel for the intensity of playoff games while working with the top officials in the league. It ensures that when the guys who are the top officials retire, that there will be a group of younger, experienced officials who can step in and maintain the level. I can see an argument related to the iden ies of those who are allowed to officiate playoff games, but I don't see an argument for limiting how many officials work playoff games any further than it's already limited.

    this should be emailed to cuban

  24. #49
    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    6,035
    You know so staggeringly little about your own ing team that you are well on your way to superstar status in the moronic opposing fan hall of fame. Finley, Dirk and Nash were all with the Mavericks when Cuban bought the team, but Nash wasn't starting. They had support players like Bradley, Ceballos and Greg Buckner. In the first of a long line of stupid decisions, Cuban promptly signed Dennis Rodman and watched the team chemistry go to as they lost 8 of their next ten games. The Mavericks went on to miss the playoffs by like 4 games less than three months into Cuban's ownership. Please don't act like it was the ing Quinn Buckner days when Cuban swooped in and rescued the franchise, because it's just wrong.

    So aside from letting face-painters in free, paying a half a million dollars in fines and putting Playstations in all the lockers what did he really do for his team and my city?
    And who paid all of those players? Who changed the way the entire organization was run, from top to bottom? Who had a say in bringing in the right mix of players, the right assistants, the head coaching changes? Who took this team from a perennial joke to among the league's best? Who put the Mavs on the map? He has retooled the face of the franchise in his time here. I wish my owner could have had my team sitting in the middle of a ing dome for all those years. Cuban has turned the Dallas Mavericks into a well-run machine. Have you been around the AAC area recently? You believe Cuban has NOTHING to do with any of that development? He brought it to the city.

    I know more about this team that you ever will. Don't try to call me out on some of your bull , boy.

  25. #50
    Believe. A-Train's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Post Count
    635
    I remember when Cuban expounded on the lack of importance of defense in the postseason in his blog. In particular he had cited a Spurs' playoff loss as proof.

    I guess AJ didn't get the memo.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •