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Maybe Duncan should've made that basket to seal the deal, after all he IS the go to guy on the team.
then why not call the 50 times Damp hand checks Duncan. Name me one time, just once, that a game playoff game was tied in the fourth at the line because of a hand check call.
Maybe Duncan should've made that basket to seal the deal, after all he IS the go to guy on the team.
I don't think he figured the refs would have a hand in it when he said that.
They called the foul with Dirk's back to the basket, and you can handcheck a guy when his back is to the basket without it being a foul. , going by Dampier's defense on Duncan, you can a guy up the ass when his back is to the basket without it being a foul.
What does that have to do with a hand check and how Damp is playing him as it relates to Bowens foul on Dirk
That's understandable, you probably just tune in for the occasional regular season Spurs game and the playoffs. If you watch Inside the NBA every single week like I do you would've known better.
Two things.
First of all, the call is usually made if the hand check continues for an extended period of time, which it did in Bowen's case.
Secondly, I'm sure if you follow basketball extensively that you're well aware that call will not be made in the low post, or when a player is slowly backing into another player.
Watch the replay again. The Bowen foul was NOT the same situation as when Dampier puts his hands on Duncans back (or when Duncan does the same). It was near the top of the key, with Dirk attemtping to move quickly, and with his back not completely to Bowen.
It's a judgment call, either way. I'm not saying the infallible, perfect call was made. But it was a LEGITIMATE call, with a substantiated basis in the rulebook.
Right or wrong they shouldn't have called it, they should have let him just score, so there will be no ing. Dirk was backing him down for the first time to the post, and I'm sure he would have made it in, it was like the first one on one he had with Bruce all game. I AGREE 100% Refs sucked, yall(hey we're Texans lol) shouldn't have laughed at what Cuban had in his Blog about the Refs, because it's true! I mean the Spurs did get bad calls in regulation, but the Mavs got them right after they took that 8-9 point lead that lead to 3's and more down the stretch with the Tim deflection and no iron on shot clock.THE main fact is that you had the chance to win, but you guys broke down mentally, with Barry's bad pass and Parker's missed free throws. Also, in OT, Devin threw the ball away pretty bad twice down the stretch and you guys didn't take advantage.
Barkley's predictions suck anyway, he pick LA and NJ in 03, and Det last year.
I think you need to go watch that one again.First of all, the call is usually made if the hand check continues for an extended period of time, which it did in Bowen's case.
I never complain about calls, but if anything should have been called, Dirk was pushing off.
Tim's moving screen was a makeup for that.
I just watched it. Over and over.
Bowen hand checked for long enough to warrant a call. Like I said, it's a judgment call, but it is absolutely, 100% legitimate.
You don't see Dirk pushing off?
A no-call would have been about 800% legit, and an offensive foul about 400% legit. Making the actual call 92.3% bull .
Yeah I know, thank god, but what about the rest that I mentioned? There was no makeup for that, untill the ghetto calls against you, which I say went overboard, luckily for us. BUT, I just have to say you had your chance too. If you put the loss away an dthe end of the 4th quater, this was a of a game. I would still say the same thing, even if we lost. Every good player stepped up big for both teams! Good Game!
Yeah there shouldn't have been any call at all.
Not really...it's called backing his man down the post...
for me I didn't see a foul either way...
I do see Dirk pushing off a bit. He's backing his man down. Not really enough to warrant a foul, but I'm not an NBA ref.
I don't think you're quite understanding my comment here. I'm not saying the refs made the ONLY right call. It was a situation that could have gone 1 of 3 ways. They picked 1, which is not necessarily any more correct than the other 2.
All I'm saying is the call was legitimate, meaning it has substantive basis in the rules. I think a no-call or possibly even an offensive foul would have also been legitimate.
But it is what it is. I really don't understand what the fascination is with ing about the refs. If you're not willing to accept the decisions of the officials as an integral part of the game, then I seriously can't even comprehend why you watch sports (note that I'm speaking generally here and not directing this at you Kori or anyone in particular).
The problem I think we're having is that we haven't accept that the referees inordinate amount of poor decisions are an integral part of the game
Who posts at the FT line?
Have to take the good with the bad. The Spurs have received their fair share of questionable calls over the years, as has every other NBA team. It evens out.
why the are you on a spurs fan message board right now? shouldn't you be celebrating a great "legit" win? are you that much of a ing loser you have nothing better to do than post this bull here?
You don't want to admit that your wins have been tainted by bad officiating. Fine, that's your prerogative. But you can't stop people from expressing their views on the referees if they feel like it. Deal with it.
Oh I know you weren't directing it at mebecause I think the Spurs lost because they couldn't get a stop, not because of the refs.
But I do think that the officials have made some horrible errors.
Such nice conversations, untill the bad side of fans come in...
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