Who ever goes to the game, Make some posters that say.
Put a pic of big ol glasses and put Here ya go refs you en need them.
Were also making are own Ref tapes, what's that addy again Cuban?
Awesomeness.
Let's hope the Spurs can pull it off too.
P.S. How did mannyisgod get his avator to 92 by 79 pixels?
Who ever goes to the game, Make some posters that say.
Put a pic of big ol glasses and put Here ya go refs you en need them.
Were also making are own Ref tapes, what's that addy again Cuban?
Which call did the Spurs get away with that warranted Dirks. And that was a nice make up in the fourth when the refs realized they ed up so they decided to call a moving screen on Duncan, instead of giving dallas the ball.
Manny, do you happen to think that the refs just missed some calls 3 games straight. That it was all just innocent missed calls?
Do you really believe that?
You can't pick it apart by analyzing "what call cancelled out such and such bad call". The refs don't keep a scorecard of how many bad calls theyve made either way and try to balance it out.
It's basic law of averages. Unless you're going to assume that refs are intentionally trying to get one team to win (which apparently some of you are...and if that's the case, why are you even watching the NBA?), you HAVE to accept the fact that, over time, bad calls WILL even out.
If they are reffing the games as fairly and impartially as is humanly possible, then law of averages dictates that the bad calls do even out.
I'm not gonna sit here and claim the Mavericks have never received a beneficial call. Of course they have. But so have the Spurs. You have to take the good with the bad...or stop watching.
If you think the NBA refereeing is fixed, then don't watch. Sport events are predicated on the fact that their outcomes are not pre-determined. If you aren't a believer that such is the case....then why are you a sports fan in the first place?
Standard deviation warrants a slide to one side.
m-i-g:
Don't worry m-i-g I'll be there win or lose. We got three les and the NBA brass can't take that away from us.
Sure, but again, over time the deviation becomes negligible.
I'm certainly not arguing the existence of poor refereeing, in this series or in sports in general.
The NBA is not fixed and I'm not going to sit here and argue with anyone who thinks it is.
If the NBA was fixed, the Spurs have won nothing.
Yeah, all the theoretical statistics in the world won't change the fact the call on Bruce may be the worst call I've ever seen in my life.
Yes but the time it takes to even out could take longer than a game could allow. So LOA vs. SD SD wins out or vice versa.
I don't think fouls in a single game should ever be subjected to the Law of Large Numbers.
You can say what you want about it being fixed or not,
but the truth is the Refs Gift Wrapped this series so far for the Mavs.
Now we gotta play 100% frickin' perfect to beat these refs.
stern was on the mavs bench
8 or 9 times, I think. Pistons did it to the Magic three years back (although both the current teams are a few big steps up from the '03 Pistons and Magic). It's eminently doable.
I can't believe that the very same call Varajello got in the Cav's-Piston game (twice), Tim Duncan couldn't get against Dallas (the blocking foul).
Well, I would not say the game is fixed, but there are certain biases that don't amount to a conspiracy, yet can influence the match. Having said that, if the Soviets can rig the outcome of the 72 Olympics basketball final or Juventus pay to fix matches in the Italian Serie A league the last two seasons, who could say that some might be inclined to move a game one way or the other if the match is close? If scandal can happen in Washington, it could happen in the NBA offices too.
I agree, but again I'm not even necessarily talking about this particular game or this particular series.
I just don't understand why people about the refs in general. Either you are willing to accept the good with the bad and maintain a belief that they're doing the best they can, or you shouldn't watch sports in the first place.
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Just gotta take it all one day at a time now. I haven't heard one single note from the fat lady's mouth. Onto game 5.![]()
If anyone should be getting the benefit of the calls, it's the Spurs - the defending champs. They are simply getting no respect from the refs, especially late.
Did I think the refs sucked this series, yes. Did I blame them for the two earlier losses, prob. But I would be willing to admit that they got outplayed. But I never thougt, I'd see a game possibly a series, decided by a handcheck call. Like I said somewhere else, can you think of a playoff game where they made that call in under two minute with the game that close.
Because at some point the frustration level reaches a place where you want to vent. I've been adament about not complaining about the calls. But damn, how much do they have to overcome? The last 2 games saw the Spurs play some incredible ball only to have it ripped away with that.
I do more than enough "accepting." But at a certain point enough is enough.
Like someone told you in the other thread....Nets-Pacers last round, Game 5 or 6 (I can't remember which, both were 6 pt Nets wins).
The Spurs lost because they didn't make stops when it counted moreso than they lost because of officiating.
The problem is that complaining about the former involves taking your team off its pedastol, which it seems only some fans are willing to do, whereas the latter is the easy way out.
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