Barkley called out the refs?

[SpurCapita]

I'll take a Giga-pet reffing these games. Unlike Bavetta, those things will die. In other news, I hear that there are some French figure skating judges available to officiate, any takers?

[ponky]

Still at it with the ing and whining, four hours after the game, hilarious. Barkley also said Lebron was out of bounds when he shot a three and later in the replay they showed it from a different angle and Barkley changed his tune. How many rings does Barkley have? Spurs fans seem to diss everyone who doesn't have a ring and all of a sudden Barkley is the voice of reason. Barkley also called the Riverwalk a creek this year and described San Antonio women as fat a couple of years ago during the WCF. Was he right about that as well? Think about this while I have sweet dreams.

[zocool16]

But my point is that if the refs gave Dirk respect early on the game wouldn't even be close.. and the refs aren't even that biased towards the Mavs. It's just even. And that is why i think it is weird to you guys.

possible...but this is why i really cant give full credit to the mavs for beating the Spurs...it was given to them, I don't feel like they earned it. Boo-hoo though, what do you care? Your Mavs have the lead and you wanna beat us no matter how it's done.

[JohnMcClane]

Actually, the Suns are his team

Which is why he yells "DIIIAAAWWWW" all the time rather than "Ginnnoooobbbliiii".. right? And why he kisses Duncan's butt CONSTANTLY....

[SA210]

Still at it with the ing and whining, four hours after the game, hilarious. Barkley also said Lebron was out of bounds when he shot a three and later in the replay they showed it from a different angle and Barkley changed his tune. How many rings does Barkley have? Spurs fans seem to diss everyone who doesn't have a ring and all of a sudden Barkley is the voice of reason. Barkley also called the Riverwalk a creek this year and described San Antonio women as fat a couple of years ago during the WCF. Was he right about that as well? Think about this while I have sweet dreams.

They also showed a replay of the push off Dirk kept giving Bruce.

[JohnMcClane]

possible...but this is why i really cant give full credit to the mavs for beating the Spurs...it was given to them, I don't feel like they earned it. Boo-hoo though, what do you care? Your Mavs have the lead and you wanna beat us no matter how it's done.

How does being "even" = giving it to the Mavs? I'm saying that because ithe reffing isn't completely biased against the Mavs, as it normally is, makes it fair. And that is why you think it is weird.

[ponky]

They also showed a replay of the push off Dirk kept giving Bruce.

Why do you always skirt around the post rather than addressing it directly? You were all up on Barkley both in this post and the other posts about the officiating and yet you can't even address what I just posted. I guess you do believe that San Antonio women are fat and the Riverwalk is a creek otherwise you pick and choose what you want whenever it's to your advantage. Which one is it?

[zocool16]

How does being "even" = giving it to the Mavs? I'm saying that because ithe reffing isn't completely biased against the Mavs, as it normally is, makes it fair. And that is why you think it is weird.

lol all i gotta say is that the refs were 'clutch'

[greyforest]

Barkley also said Lebron was out of bounds when he shot a three and later in the replay they showed it from a different angle and Barkley changed his tune.

well they should compile a highlight reel of all the ing bull fouls your team got in their favor and then maybe that will change your tune.

[ponky]

well they should compile a highlight reel of all the ing bull fouls your team got in their favor and then maybe that will change your tune.

Wah wah wah. Shall I post the ridiculous 2003 FTA stats for the WCF again? Six quick fouls the other day on three centers (2 apiece) all in the first quarter, all because of Duncan, I didn't and whine. Suck it up whiner.

[SpurCapita]

No one in here is pretending that Barkley is right all the time, or even most of the time. Just the fact that there are some national personalities calling out the refs is an abberation to the norm. This doesn't mean that we have to agree with EVERYTHING they have ever said. That's idiotic.

[greyforest]

Wah wah wah. Shall I post the ridiculous 2003 FTA stats for the WCF again? Six quick fouls the other day on three centers (2 apiece) all in the first quarter, all because of Duncan, I didn't and whine. Suck it up whiner.

sure. bull is bull . i don't know how you posting that series' officiating bull would change the fact that this series' officiating has been bull !

and are you sure you didn't you and whine? you sure do bring it up now, and remember it very well!

[SA210]

Why do you always skirt around the post rather than addressing it directly? You were all up on Barkley both in this post and the other posts about the officiating and yet you can't even address what I just posted. I guess you do believe that San Antonio women are fat and the Riverwalk is a creek otherwise you pick and choose what you want whenever it's to your advantage. Which one is it?

The point is, it's not just us Spurs fans who saw this bogus crap. It's not like he was reading Spurstalk and knew we were mad about it.

And it was so important to him that he wanted it to be the 1st thing he commented on.

You know we were robbed. You know it deep inside. Say what you want, but you really know it. Without Charles saying anything, You know the Spurs were robbed.

[greyforest]

That's idiotic.

there is more than enough idiocy to go around on these boards!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Charles can call SA Podunk and the women fat all he wants. That's how he jokes. Other times, like when he called Kobe selfish..He says a lot what's on spectators minds. How many times has a media sportscaster call-out a player? They don't. They hush up and tip toe around the issue at best..Barkley doesn't ...the fact that Barkley says acknowledges that "hey, people are watching this game, and notice something's up" your argument Ponky, has nothing to do with Barkley validating our gripes. It has a lot to do with we're not the only ones who saw crappy officiating tonight. That doesn't necessarily mean, that was the cause of our loss, but it WAS indeed CRAPPY. Even on some other boards, non-fans were calling out the REFS, and singling out this game, not just the usual Homer-Ref Griping.

[ponky]

The point is, it's not just us Spurs fans who saw this bogus crap. It's not like he was reading Spurstalk and knew we were mad about it.

And it was so important to him that he wanted it to be the 1st thing he commented on.

You know we were robbed. You know it deep inside. Say what you want, but you really know it. Without Charles saying anything, You know the Spurs were robbed.

Barkley picked the Spurs at the beginning of the season and he and Kenny got into it with Cuban a couple of months ago. It stands to reason that he is pissed that the Mavericks are playing well when he's been dissing them for 4-5 years now. You really are quite silly with your little *victim* at ude. All I know deep inside is that it feels nice and warm to know that we are up 3-1. I don't feel anything about your poor officiating excuses, the Spurs were not robbed, they had their chance...tick tick tick 8 seconds, Duncan with the ball....

[ponky]

Charles can call SA Podunk and the women fat all he wants. That's how he jokes. Other times, like when he called Kobe selfish..He says a lot what's on spectators minds. How many times has a media sportscaster call-out a player? They don't. They hush up and tip toe around the issue at best..Barkley doesn't ...the fact that Barkley says acknowledges that "hey, people are watching this game, and notice something's up" your argument Ponky, has nothing to do with Barkley validating our gripes. It has a lot to do with we're not the only ones who saw crappy officiating tonight. That doesn't necessarily mean, that was the cause of our loss, but it WAS indeed CRAPPY. Even on some other boards, non-fans were calling out the REFS, and singling out this game, not just the usual Homer-Ref Griping.

That wasn't a joke, he was comparing them to L.A. and Dallas women. He's always eyeing women and lets the viewers know about it. Anyway, the griping is like icing on the cake in this series.

Aside from that silliness, Barkley has dissed the Mavs for still not playiing D, for playing soft when people like Flip Saunders, Jeff Van Gundy, Magic Johnson have all commented on the difference between this year's Mavericks and the Mavericks from even a year ago. I don't put much stock into what he says, he's all fluffy entertainment.

[SA210]

. Even on some other boards, non-fans were calling out the REFS, and singling out this game, not just the usual Homer-Ref Griping.

Exactly, feel free to go around and look at other boards.
We were robbed!!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Exactly, feel free to go around and look at other boards.
We were robbed!!

get in line, many teams have been robbed in big playoff games. Its hard to 4get but it doesnt solve anything by worrying about it too much

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

That wasn't a joke, he was comparing them to L.A. and Dallas women. He's always eyeing women and lets the viewers know about it. Anyway, the griping is like icing on the cake in this series.

Aside from that silliness, Barkley has dissed the Mavs for still not playiing D, for playing soft when people like Flip Saunders, Jeff Van Gundy, Magic Johnson have all commented on the difference between this year's Mavericks and the Mavericks from even a year ago. I don't put much stock into what he says, he's all fluffy entertainment.

I don't care if it wasn't a joke. That's his opinion so be it. I noticed a lot of Mavs fans always saying, "PLease PLEASE VALIDATE US BARKLEY" and then hating on his ass for refusing to give credit. Barkley's the kind of guy who loves to give cred where credit is due. I'm not saying you're one of those mavs fans who cares bout' Barkley's opinions. So far, your opinion is "tough" while Ours is "Hey what the is up with the refs? let our boys play!" I'll admit we had our chance. We blew it. Mavs made less mistakes than the Spurs. They win again. BUT...at least acknowledge the fact that the officiating was called very TIGHTLY and Disruptively Than OTHER POSTSEASON GAMES. You don't even have to say it was the reason you beat us...but these games have been whistled to the extreme for some players.

[ponky]

I don't care if it wasn't a joke. That's his opinion so be it. I noticed a lot of Mavs fans always saying, "PLease PLEASE VALIDATE US BARKLEY" and then hating on his ass for refusing to give credit. Barkley's the kind of guy who loves to give cred where credit is due. I'm not saying you're one of those mavs fans who cares bout' Barkley's opinions. So far, your opinion is "tough" while Ours is "Hey what the is up with the refs? let our boys play!" I'll admit we had our chance. We blew it. Mavs made less mistakes than the Spurs. They win again. BUT...at least acknowledge the fact that the officiating was called very TIGHTLY and Disruptively Than OTHER POSTSEASON GAMES. You don't even have to say it was the reason you beat us...but these games have been whistled to the extreme for some players.

Maybe you misunderstood our ridicule of Barkley for wanting him to validate us. The officiating has been tight for every game in the playoffs this season and even though the whining in me wanted to come out for game 1, it didn't. Cheryl Miller asked Stern about the tough officiating and he didn't back down...this was NOT for this series, it was about the officiating in general during this year's playoffs. All I'm saying is that it's pussy to blame the refs for a loss. Complain about a couple of fouls, but just because they come at the end rather than the beginning (when we get screwed) doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called or not called. Refs make mistakes but in the end, it's pretty damn even.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Maybe you misunderstood our ridicule of Barkley for wanting him to validate us. The officiating has been tight for every game in the playoffs this season and even though the whining in me wanted to come out for game 1, it didn't. Cheryl Miller asked Stern about the tough officiating and he didn't back down...this was NOT for this series, it was about the officiating in general during this year's playoffs. All I'm saying is that it's pussy to blame the refs for a loss. Complain about a couple of fouls, but just because they come at the end rather than the beginning (when we get screwed) doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called or not called. Refs make mistakes but in the end, it's pretty damn even.

I don't understand. Having fouls called on Mavericks centers when they foul Duncan is getting screwed? It's more like the Spurs are getting screwed because they stop calling those fouls after the first quarter.

[SilverPlayer]

You guys notice you brag about using 16 fouls on Duncan...and then complain that they get called. It's your entire freaking strategy to stop Duncan. You foul him. Your own coach brags about this. So did they magically stop fouling duncan in the fourth?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Maybe you misunderstood our ridicule of Barkley for wanting him to validate us. The officiating has been tight for every game in the playoffs this season and even though the whining in me wanted to come out for game 1, it didn't. Cheryl Miller asked Stern about the tough officiating and he didn't back down...this was NOT for this series, it was about the officiating in general during this year's playoffs. All I'm saying is that it's pussy to blame the refs for a loss. Complain about a couple of fouls, but just because they come at the end rather than the beginning (when we get screwed) doesn't mean that they shouldn't be called or not called. Refs make mistakes but in the end, it's pretty damn even.

I've seen better No-Calls.. , even during the Miami game the next day I was saying to myself "Wow they're not calling a lot of things" since it was a deep contrast to GAME 3 in Dallas.. There was a lot of Physicality, and a lot of NO FOULS , from Vince Carter to Dwyane Wade, possible and 1's ignored etc... they've been letting us play our games in the Sac-SA series with a lot of "No Calls" ...I'm not saying the refs aren't trying to even out their calls...but We could do without the TICKY-TACK fouls in this series and coddling Dirk every time he BUMPS Bowen out of the way.

[refhater]

What's tough to swallow is that the Spurs have the best record in the west this year. They are the defending NBA Champions. They have three all-stars on their team. Dallas has one all-star on it's team. So we keep thinking year after year that at some point we're going to get the same calls the Lakers did when we were trying to overtake them. However, that's just not the case. I'm sure any Mav fan will admit that at the worst this series has been officiated evenly. Well that's not what the Spurs faced when we beat the Lakers. So it's really only cheating the Mavs. It's as simple as this, if Dirk drives and gets a call then Tim should get a call on his drive. If Dampier fouls on a shot then Rasho should get the same call. Devin Harris gets a three point play, Tony gets a three point play. I didn't see the Mavs get two delay of game penalties tonight. The other night Tony didn't get a trip call and Dirk did. Two all stars - should be the same call. Just be consistent and don't give free throws to win the game if he doesn't even shoot the ball!