well your gonna be joining us in a couple days so i wouldnt be saying much right now if i was you buddy. you act like your actually gonna win a le this year. not with that old slow team you got.
They aren't double teaming him. Duncan is unstoppable when single teamed. There isn't 2 other players in the league that I would rather have guard Duncan without help defense than Dampier and Diop. Duncan is 100% and very angry and it has brought the best out of him. The spurs small ball though has made it hard for the mavs to double team Duncan because of the spacing.Tim Duncan has turned Maverick's 2 "great centers" into 5 cent hookers.
KG would just have pissed his panties
Hmm
Spurs 3
Kings 0
Yeah, keep running smack asshat.
Tim Duncan has turned Maverick's 2 "great centers
KG would just have pissed his panties
Tim Duncan has also turned Spurs 2 "great centers" into no shows.
Fair enough, except that that excuse did not work when sam Cassell was too hurt to play, why should i honor that now?
People need to learn how to comprehend allitle bit more. I never said Tim's the reason. What i am saying is YOU people should be saying that based on past expereiences with this board.
No -- acknowledging that unlike KG, who has shied away from taking that shot in many situations by passing the ball to teammates, Timmy took the shot and accepted that it might not fall. I'd much rather have a guy who's willing to take that shot than a guy who's more comfortable passing it up and hiding behind excuses.Bragging about not hitting a game winner?
Ultimately, the difference between the analysis of Tim Duncan in this series and KG in any other series is that Timmy has pelts on his wall that are there because he dominated when it mattered most. That the Spurs have even had an opportunity to win games in this series has largely been because of how well Tim Duncan has played. He's been the best player on the floor in 3 of the 4 games. I'm not sure that you can always say that about KG in a playoff setting.
Fair enough, the rest of the league, except for the bobcats has generally been able to say that about the pistons the past few years also. Tim knows and so does Larry O'brien that being the best player on the floor means little.
You go on blaming your star studded supporting cast and i'll blame my troy hudson's of the world and we'll see who has a better case?
Sick,
If I understand you rightly, you're claiming that Duncan deserves the same kind of criticism as Garnett for putting up tremendous numbers but falling short (if the Spurs end up losing the series) in the playoffs.
Two responses:
First, when you get your numbers is extremely important: Duncan has played very well in the clutch this series, not just in quarters 1-3. Hence, I think this alleviates some of the criticism you want to lay upon him. But your point, in one sense, is well-taken: if the Spurs ultimately lose this series, Duncan, as the foundation of and best player on the team, ought to receive a large portion of the blame. That's part of what it means to be the leader of the team.
But second, I've never thought to criticize Garnett for a single series, or for a single game, in the way you're suggesting Duncan should be evaluated. Garnett has a history of coming up short of victory in the playoffs, sometimes not even making the playoffs. That's the proper basis for criticism of Garnett, and the most common negative evaluation I hear made about him. Duncan doesn't share that same kind of history, hence he's not subject to that same kind of criticism. If Garnett turns things around the latter part of his career and establishes a culture of winning in Minnesota, he'll no longer be subject to that criticism either.
KG has never lost to a lower team except the year when Shaq and Kobe came on late and were looking to 4 peat. Even then you can look up what there second best player Wally did in the playoffs. I'm not claming that Duncan deserves the same kind of criticism as Garnett for putting up tremendous numbers but falling short (if the Spurs end up losing the series) in the playoffs., i'm saying that Duncan deserves the same kind of criticism as Garnett for putting up tremendous numbers but falling short (if the Spurs end up losing the series) in this SERIES. Big difference.
This isn't Detroit/san antonio. This is guys like Devin harris, josh howard and Diop winning. There's a big difference too. Take away Dirk and Avery and you have a Wizards minus Arenas, a chicago team. Nothing bad but nothing special at all.
Take away Tim preseason and you still have a championship contender, although the second tier much like Miami is considered now.
For the record, i want the spurs to win, as much as i wanted them to struggle, i in no way want Cuban to go home a winner.
I'm not blaming my star-studded supporting cast. You asked why Tim isn't taking the heat that you think KG has gotten in the past. I gave you a reason why that isn't happening. You convert that into a criticism of Tim's teammates, which it never was.
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