Indeed.This makes me nervous. Vescey only writes about things that are real longshots.
If they called the hacks and holds it would be 143. Duncan takes more fouls in a quarter than Dirk has in this entire series but that candy assed flopper has been to the line 53 time. That's on 73 shots for Dirk and 100 for Duncan, and that's in a series where your coach said they have three big men on Duncan and with plenty of fouls to give. What's your point.
What does high scoring have to do with "adherence to the rules"? Your team has gotten a little better this year because you have a coach with a DEFENSIVE MINDSET.
Defense wins championships. Period. Is it fun to watch two teams run up and down the court, jacking up 3's on every possession? I guess it is to some people.
Dirk draws fouls by posting up from the freethrow line and either penetrating or taking the open shot. He draws the same types of fouls Duncan does albeit 10 feet farther from the hole. That doesn't qualify him as a pure "jumpshooter" (although he does have a great shot).
Although you'll never admit it, Duncan is the beneficiary of numerous questionable calls. The mavs aren't intentionally fouling Duncan but rather have a realistic at ude towards the type of calls Duncan recieves. That requires two centers with 12 fouls to give. Since these centers have either been fouling out or close to it in every single game...what's your point?
"Because the past has nothing to do with what went on Monday night, what'll happen on the court tonight, and what's going on in the resilient minds of a championship squad secure in its superiority and whose wagons are circled in adversity."
In one breath the past has nothing to do with this series, in another the Spurs' oast as champions is incredibly relevent. Vescey is clueless.
We've gotten better defensively in order to defeat the spurs. The current trend in the NBA favors aggressive defense that allows for a certain number of no calls (i.e. Bowen's defense).
You're right, defense does win championships, at times. The Lakers and Celtics of the 80's are proof positive that defense doesn't always win championships.
i would agree with the first statement to an extent, but the mavs haven't been playing much defense the last 2 games. they have been taking the spurs out of their defense with their offense.
Thankfully I just finished my coffee.
He doesn't play in the post. Stop kidding yourself.and either penetrating or taking the open shot. He draws the same types of fouls Duncan does albeit 10 feet farther from the hole. That doesn't qualify him as a pure "jumpshooter" (although he does have a great shot).
Because post players are more likely to get contact and calls than a guy who's shooting 20 foot fadeaway Js. Basketball 101.Although you'll never admit it, Duncan is the beneficiary of numerous questionable calls. The mavs aren't intentionally fouling Duncan but rather have a realistic at ude towards the type of calls Duncan recieves. That requires two centers with 12 fouls to give. Since these centers have either been fouling out or close to it in every single game...what's your point?
At the end of the day, the spurs need to forget the officiating and concentrate on executing. Many fans on this forum are blaming the losses on the refs yet the Spurs had opportunities to win games 3 and 4 but didn't execute. That's what I mean by "playing through the refs". Whether or not the spurs are receiving bad calls, it hasn't been a determinative factor in this series.
Dude, WTF are you talking about ("allows for a certain number of no calls")? There should be more "no calls" because it's the DAMN PLAYOFFS. For an example of how to call a playoff game, witness last nights game between the Suns and the Clips. That got physical, but they let the players decide the game.
Yes, Bowen is an aggressive defensive player. His job is to harass perimeter shooters and he is one of the best at it.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you to a certain extent but basketball 101 also includes the high post. One reason dirk drew the call on Bowen (not addressing the validity of the call) was because he was backing down Bowen from the high post.Thankfully I just finished my coffee.
He doesn't play in the post. Stop kidding yourself.
Because post players are more likely to get contact and calls than a guy who's shooting 20 foot fadeaway Js. Basketball 101.
Your logic falls apart when you ignore Dirk's ability to penetrate. He does this frequently and draws a number of fouls in the process.
Lots of other players penetrate. Where are their calls?
Anyways, the post player tends to outdraw the penetrator, by a significant margin.
You're right, the trend is to allow for aggressive play. That hasn't always been the case. One could argue that not allowing for fouls, IS allowing the players to decide the game.
Few (if any) players are able to achieve the type of advantage that Dirk has when reaching the rack. His height draws plenty of hard fouls. That's what makes Dirk such a tough matchup and the reason he draws so many fouls.
On a side note, I believe that both Duncan and Dirk deserve the calls they receive. They both present unique advantages that draw plenty of fouls.
The point is when Dirk gets "fouled?" the player is face to face away from the basket with minimal contact unless Dirk(who is very smart for doing this)leans in with the elbow does that fake stumble footwork that is 50% of the time a travel, bumps the defender, fades away while kicking his foot just for good measures ala Karl Malone and gets a call. I do believe he gets fouled sometimes, but never, and I mean all homerism aside, never as much as Tim, on the block, in the paint with Dampier or Diop holding, leaning on,Pulling jer knee in the tailbone, and pulling on jerseys. I will admit to my team's fouls , can you?
LMFAO. Dirk draws the same fouls as Reggie Miller but even lamer because he doesn't have 1/10th the coordination.
I'll agree that Diop and Damp are fouling Duncan a vast majority of the time. Duncan deserves almost all of the calls he receives.The point is when Dirk gets "fouled?" the player is face to face away from the basket with minimal contact unless Dirk(who is very smart for doing this)leans in with the elbow does that fake stumble footwork that is 50% of the time a travel, bumps the defender, fades away while kicking his foot just for good measures ala Karl Malone and gets a call. I do believe he gets fouled sometimes, but never, and I mean all homerism aside, never as much as Tim, on the block, in the paint with Dampier or Diop holding, leaning on,Pulling jer knee in the tailbone, and pulling on jerseys. I will admit to my team'
However, your charcterization of the calls Dirk receives is ridiculous. Dirk is the recepient of the most aggressive perimeter defense in the league. He draws alot of fouls and deserves almost all of them.
His height isn't that big of a deal. What matters primarily at the rim is elevation. There are plenty of guys at 6'6" who present a greater challenge vertically than him.
Since I won't be at the game tonight...I will most definetly have my home theater system on high volume and the 60" big screen ready to go.....
That's the closest I'll get to being around the fan at the AT&T Center. This will be a great measuring tool on how well the Spurs have adjusted to the Mavs offense. The Spurs MUST win this game in a major blow out...not close game. A close game is simply not what they want, even if they win. If they want to make that major statement, it must be in a major blow out. It's on for tonight. 63-win season should mean something for them. Otherwise, they should have just won enough to make #8 seed. It's do or die for tonight. Just one word will sum up this thread, and it's something that hasn't been mentioned much at all which makes the Spurs what they should be:
POISE
The Spurs have made clutch shots in each game. Problem is, everytime the Spurs make a shot, it is followed by FT's for Dirk; AND the Spurs have to make yet another "clutch" shot - ad infinitem, until the Spurs miss, at which point: "Well they had there chance".
This series is actually VERY similar to the Phoenix series last year; High scoring affairs, where the Spurs better execution and defense down the stretch would allow them to pull out a close W. The way the games are being called (being generous here) are what have changed that dynamic.
A quick and agile 7 footer taking up space while penetrating is a much bigger deal than even the best high risers.
Not at all. There's no real difference at the rim.
Dirk and hard foul should never be used in a sentence together without a no, never, not, nein, nyet or some other negative. It's okay to use pussy, vagina, wimp, etc..
I guess I've seen more opportunities than you. From bad inbounds plays, turnovers, missed freethrows, and missed shots, I think the spurs have had plenty of opportunities.
I'm just concerned that the spurs will remedy these small mistakes in time to take this series.
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