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  1. #26
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    It will be....

    Chauncey - Williams
    Rip - Wade
    Prince - Toine
    Sheed - Haslem
    Ben - Shaq

    Rip has shown that he has more success defending the shorter/quicker Wade than Tayshaun. I'm sure Tayshaun will see Wade quite a few times though. They will throw quite a few guys at Wade. Rip, Tayshaun, Lindsey, Delfino, and Mo will all get the assignment at some point.

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    Pistons in 6.

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    Pat Riley's 12th Conference final.

    Flip's 1st?

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    Tayshaun Prince cannot guard Dwyane Wade. At all. Rip Hamilton will be the primary assignment. After that or in case of foul trouble, I assume Lindsey Hunter will get the bulk of possessions. Carlos Delfino has shut down Wade in both games he's played him this season, but almost certainly won't play.

    Billups will take Williams/Payton and Prince Walker and Posey.

    The Wallaces and McDyess will tag team on O'Neal, Haslem, and Walker. McDyess is probably the Pistons' best defender on O'Neal, for some reason, but Ben Wallace will get most of the minutes and Sheed will try to pull the chair for the odd possession or two. Dale Davis and Kelvin Cato probably will sit on the bench collecting DNPs.

    The Pistons' reserve lockdown defender, Maurice Evans, will probably fill in where necessary at any position but center.

    At the other end, Williams and Payton will try to guard Billups, but Wade or one of the Andersons may have to be switched onto him when necessary. Wade will start out on Hamilton, but probably won't play many possessions guarding him to conserve energy for the other end. The problem is, he can't guard Prince on the block, and I have doubts about his ability to guard Billups as well. Shandon Anderson will probably see an expanded role after Riley sees how ineffective GP is against any of the Pistons starters. Haslem will guard Sheed and O'Neal Ben. Nobody can guard Dice. At some point, Riley may go with the Mourning-O'Neal lineup, which is easily countered with Dice-Sheed raining jumpers over them, since neither of them can guard anyone outside of 10 feet from the basket.

    Riley has a huge advantage over Saunders, but we'll see.

    Pistons in 5.
    Last edited by Bob Lanier; 05-21-2006 at 07:01 PM.

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    i was kinda thinkin tayshaun couldnt defend wade because hes 2 slow and wade is one quick sob

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    ^^ ok and you don't think Billups can do a better on Wade than Rip ?

    Wasn't Dale Davis signed as a Shaq stopper ? I guess he will have playtime like Campbell against Shaq last year ?

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    Tayshaun Prince cannot guard Dwyane Wade. At all. Rip Hamilton will be the primary assignment. After that or in case of foul trouble, I assume Lindsey Hunter will get the bulk of possessions. Carlos Delfino has shut down Wade in both games he's played him this season, but almost certainly won't play.
    If you guys don't want Delfino we'll take him off your hands. You don't have any big, slow, white centers. How about Rasho for Delfino?

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    Ben flopping is the Shaq stopper and I mean that with all respect.

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    ^^ ok and you don't think Billups can do a better on Wade than Rip ?
    Absolutely not. Rip Hamilton is the Pistons' best perimeter defender by far, especially on penetrating guards. Chauncey Billups is better at fighting through screens, but is too slow to keep Wade from getting anywhere he wants, and ultimately too short to do anything about his jumpshot. Tayshaun Prince is far too slow, especially since Ben Wallace doesn't intimidate Wade in the paint.
    Wasn't Dale Davis signed as a Shaq stopper ? I guess he will have playtime like Campbell against Shaq last year ?
    Yes, although he played a grand total of 4 minutes against the Heat this season. This is one area where it seems Saunders has been unwilling or unable to implent Joe Dumars's design. Davis is actually still an excellent post defender and rebounder, but he lacks the bulk that Elden Campbell had, and would probably have been a lot more effective against Ilgauskas, Gooden, Magloire, Mourning, or even Duncan than a 300+ pounder like Shaq (although that could change depending on how Shaq is officiated). The major problems are a) that Flip Saunders lacks confidence in him for some reason God only knows, and b) that Ben Wallace doesn't get into foul trouble. Necessity is the mother of opportunity and all that.

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    Pat Riley's 12th Conference final.

    Flip's 1st?
    Flip's 2nd. WCF 2004 with the Wolves. Cassell went out in the 1st game and they lost in 6 to the Lakers.

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    If you guys don't want Delfino we'll take him off your hands. You don't have any big, slow, white centers. How about Rasho for Delfino?


    Is Dale Davis injured? How come Flip doesn't use him more?

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    If you guys don't want Delfino we'll take him off your hands. You don't have any big, slow, white centers. How about Rasho for Delfino?
    How bout no.

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    Okay. But when somebody else grabs him don't come crying to us.

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    lol...dale davis isn't injured hes just not part of the rotation...and the stones take it in 5..wade will be guarded by rip and hunter through most of the series because tay might not be up to the task of following him the whole game but rip sure can and when the fatigue kicks in they got hunter to put on him and hunter is a great defender

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    How come Flip doesn't use him more?
    Because Flip is the devil incarnate.

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    lol..i think hes got a case of bench rust anyways

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    I asked this in the other thread, but no one responded, so I'll try here:

    How confident are you guys in Flip Saunders after the series against the Cavs? Seems to me his inexperience coaching in big games showed its ugly side in that series...
    I'm not completely confident in him yet, though he did make some pretty good adjustments in games 6&7 to keep lebron off balance..I dunno. gotta wait and see.

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    Pat Riley's 12th Conference final.

    Flip's 1st?
    Nope, his second. First was with Minny in 2004.

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    I asked this in the other thread, but no one responded, so I'll try here:

    How confident are you guys in Flip Saunders after the series against the Cavs? Seems to me his inexperience coaching in big games showed its ugly side in that series...
    Ehh, he's not so bad. I don't have all the confidence in the world but I think it's more of a player's game and if our players play the way they're capable of playing, Flip will look like a genious. As for that stat on Riley/Flip conference finals....hasn't Riley been in the game for waaay much longer??

    As for the matcups, I agree with FP22 and I think even Billups will get some minutes on him. He's defended him well in the short minutes he's had on him. Like Bob Lanier said, Chauncey can get passed screens, but he has strength and is always focused when it comes to the top players. It just looks that way to me, because he never seems to give up on the play and defends them real well.

    Thankfully I think Delfino will get some minutes and so will Dale. Flip mentioned it after the Game 7 and said we'll be using Delfino and Dale more. This time, he brought up on his own, unlike other times where he was only b.s.ing because some1 in the media asked him. Dale is great veteran defender and can actually give us some offense along with rebounding and Delfino is a grat defender, can score and what I love most is, he's a play maker. Hopefully he gets enough minutes to show what he can do and maybe, just maybe, he'll get more consistent PT. Then we won't end up losing him! Woohoo!!

    Pistons in 7. This is one great rivalry. Ya'll ever notice the animosity they have for us? Shaq and D-Wade are always ing about us? Once Shaq said, the Pistons do foul, the refs just don't call it. We all know all the times he's called out Ben. Don't even get me started on D-Wade. I just love how they hate us. I think it makes the game much more fun and entertaining. I am sooo looking forward to it. Hopefully the Pistons don't let me down and advance to play the Spurs!

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    If Shaq is dominant most of the games, it will go 7

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    ^^Yea, I just like the fact that we got so many bodies to throw at him with Ben, Dice, Sheed, Dale and even Cato if we need to. That's about 30 fouls. Ofcourse Bill Laimbeer brings up a good point in how the Heat have D-Wade who can put the Pistons back court in foul trouble, then have Shaq who can put the Pistons frontcourt in foul trouble. Thank goodness we have Lindsey coming off the bench as well as Delk, Delfino and I guess Mo Evans and even Tay. We have alot of depth we can use and we'll probably have to use it seeing as how we all know the refs will respect those 2 players more than they respect our defense, especially when it comes to Rasheed...

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    Pistons in 6.

  23. #48
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    i think pistons will win because they can contain wade and shaq better then they could lebron

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    I want Wade to stay in good health this seris, no injurys so there is no excuses for when the Pistons smash the Heat this seris.

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    why the are pistons fans sooo friggin confident man....dat pisses me off sso much...i mean look at the reality, this is not the regular season anymore.....a no expreience cavs team was 1 little bounce from beating you in 6!!!!!!!its was lebron vs the pistons....the heat have numerous weapons to throw at the pistons....shaq will get his usual 27 ppg or around there and wade will do what he does....since the postseason, the pistons have lost all orientation whatsoever...that just annnoys the out of me....pistons in 5, pistons in 6 blah blah....i think the prediction for the nets-heat series was nets in 6 and the prediction for the pistons-cavs series was pistons in 5....im telling you people are underestimating the heat...and its gunna pay off

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