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    It's a scientific fact that if you put a group of women together they'll start PMSing in harmony. Apparently this is true for Mav's owners and coaches too.

    We don't need to be in a group to be PMSing...

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    It's a scientific fact that if you put a group of women together they'll start PMSing in harmony. Apparently this is true for Mav's owners and coaches too.


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    I guess I just don't undertand this board. It's so hard to find which arbitrary line is drawn on a particular issue that makes sure the Spurs can do no wrong. I used to hate when the Mavs in prior years (See 2003 CF's) used to whine all the time during games. Steve, Fin and Dirk were the worst, and it was annoying. I know at that time the mavs were lambasted on message boards (including spurs ones) for doing so, but with the shoe on the other foot, the tone totally changes. Tim Duncan is one of the all time great players and has always been one of my favorites, but his complaining this series is very annoying.
    I guess all is fair game during a game? Which do more people notice and which do the officials notice more? A comment in one article where Harris says Tim is better than he is acting, one mention of bearhug defense, one press conference talk tha mentions "one play, or one call" and the game is different, or direct complaining on the court during the game where more people are watching and the complaints go directly to the ones in control?

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    I think bagging on Del Harris is like bagging on Billy Graham or something...You might get struck by lightning....The guy is an ethical man with a “Masters in Divinity”....

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    I guess I just don't undertand this board. It's so hard to find which arbitrary line is drawn on a particular issue that makes sure the Spurs can do no wrong. I used to hate when the Mavs in prior years (See 2003 CF's) used to whine all the time during games. Steve, Fin and Dirk were the worst, and it was annoying. I know at that time the mavs were lambasted on message boards (including spurs ones) for doing so, but with the shoe on the other foot, the tone totally changes. Tim Duncan is one of the all time great players and has always been one of my favorites, but his complaining this series is very annoying.
    I guess all is fair game during a game? Which do more people notice and which do the officials notice more? A comment in one article where Harris says Tim is better than he is acting, one mention of bearhug defense, one press conference talk tha mentions "one play, or one call" and the game is different, or direct complaining on the court during the game where more people are watching and the complaints go directly to the ones in control?
    I call bull on this whining crap. You want to see whining look at Cassell. You want to see whining look at Rasheed. Duncan does nothing more than your hero Dirk. He stares at the ref sometimes. Well big in deal. He throws his arms up sometimes. Well big in deal. If he's fairly pissed he'll go talk to the refs. Well big in deal. When he's really pissed he'll cause a delay of game or get an immediate foul. But you don't see Duncan arguing with the ref while the play goes on. You don't see Dunan jabbering at the ref for minutes on end about a play. These were Dirk hallmarks. The biggest problem Dallas fans and owner have with Duncan is that he's been slapping their poor asses for years and they can't do anything about it.


    The dildo Harris is just treying to work the refs and distract Duncan.

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    I think bagging on Del Harris is like bagging on Billy Graham or something...You might get struck by lightning....The guy is an ethical man with a “Masters in Divinity”....

    Del Harris...

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    Harris is not complaining about the officiating like some seem to suggest on this thread. He is talking about Tim whining to the refs. Not sure what number of free throws has to do with it. Unless you think Tim is justified for constantly complaining and talking trash to the Mavs bench during a game.

    well then we need terry to stop making that stupid face when he makes a jumper. how about dirk acting like he's made a shot before and not run down the court l an ape. or better that foolish snare dirk likes to use when he sinks a shot.. what about stack standing over someone and glaring..

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    Duncan took exception to Harris' analysis and shouted toward the Mavericks' bench on a couple of occasions Friday in Game 6.
    What's the deal with that? Any more details? Sounds very un-Timmy like to me, but then Duncan's done a couple things differently this series...

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    I guess I disagree. There were times this series were Tim would hold a nice conversation with the ref at every dead ball. And he did go and yell at the Mavs bench after drawing a foul on Damp during game 6. It was weird to see him do that.

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    well then we need terry to stop making that stupid face when he makes a jumper. how about dirk acting like he's made a shot before and not run down the court l an ape. or better that foolish snare dirk likes to use when he sinks a shot.. what about stack standing over someone and glaring..
    I agree about Terry and Stack. Both have had embarrising moments this series. Dirk did the "ape" thing one time.

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    Actually, Duncan does talk to the refs and it is quite effective. He has excellent credibility with most of them. Plus, he normally talks quietly and rationally and doesn't get in their face. If a particular opponent player is doing something illegal he will point it out and move on...nothing wrong with that.

    Is this fair? Of course. Other players have the same opportunity if they do it respectfully.

    Is this effective? sometimes...The refs will at least look at them closer and if it was something he was actually missing Duncan somtimes he gets the calls the next trip.

    Duncan has earned the respect he gets from the refs.

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    You know for a team (coaching, mgmt, owner) that accuses others of complaining, they sure do an awful lot of it ! I mean all we hear is them COMPLAINING abut how others complain.

    Really, how much ing have PJ or Pop done?

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    Guys:

    Truth is, TD complains too much. Just like Manu flops too much.

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    Harris is not complaining about the officiating like some seem to suggest on this thread. He is talking about Tim whining to the refs. Not sure what number of free throws has to do with it. Unless you think Tim is justified for constantly complaining and talking trash to the Mavs bench during a game.
    I went back and read all the responses up to your message. All were talking about the subject in the lead post...Harris complaining about Timmy complaining. Are you blind or just illiterate?

    I guess I disagree.
    And...you think we CARE???
    Last edited by pache100; 05-22-2006 at 02:10 PM.

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    Dammit Nordberg!!

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    I went back and read all the responses up to your message. All were talking about the subject in the lead post...Harris complaining about Timmy complaining. Are you blind or just illiterate?
    Both actually. I watch the Mavs games in braille. And as to your assertion I offer the following:

    A 2 time MVP and 3 time finals MVP who plays in the post has taken only 3 more FTs than a 7 footer playing like a small forward that prefers jumpers. Yeah, I guess Harris has reason to be annoyed.
    I notice the Boring News didn't bother to bring up this stat: total PFs, Duncan 24, Golden Boy 17 ... or DQ's, Duncan 1 (and nearly 2), Floppin' Fraulein 0.

    And...you think we CARE
    Nope.

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    MJ used to talk to the refs before, during and after games. What TD does is pretty much in line with what a lot of the game's best. That said, Duncan can take himself out of games when he starts thinking about the refs too much. That is the main flaw of his approach.

    Oh and Del Harris and his "top 25-30" azz needs to STFU.

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    Get Real...Tim Duncan whines about each and every call that goes against him...


    Who Me Foul, I don’t Foul, I am Tim Duncan, The MVP!

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    Get Real...Tim Duncan whines about each and every call that goes against him...


    Who Me Foul, I don’t Foul, I am Tim Duncan, The MVP!
    You REALLY don't want me to go find all the pictures I can of King James WHINING his ass off, do you?

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    Guys:

    Truth is, TD complains too much. Just like Manu flops too much.
    Yeah, I am getting a little tired of it, too.

    He would do much better if he was more selective.

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    Get Real...Tim Duncan whines about each and every call that goes against him...


    Who Me Foul, I don’t Foul, I am Tim Duncan, The MVP!
    Someone who supports a guy who routinely gets four and five steps on his drives to the basket should just

    The issue IS, primarily, yet another Dallas coach/owner going public with their gripes about SA players, insulting the town, etc. Yes, I did drag out the foul #s in response to the DMN's implication that Timmy was getting a lot of FT calls.

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    I am feeling a lot of L.O.V.E. in this thread....

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    I am feeling a lot of L.O.V.E. in this thread....
    How's the fishing, BTW? Catching anything?

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    I am feeling a lot of L.O.V.E. in this thread....
    Have the Cavs gotten an early start on their Get A Defensive Rebound drills?

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    25-30?

    Please. I think that's one of those jabs disguised as a compliment.

    Also, Del Harris has no standing to talk. What the has he ever done besides being a holdover coach?

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