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    I saw game 4 of Rytas vs. Zalgiris, his last game, and I really liked what I saw, except the free throws. The free throws looked like he was playing dodgeball with the rim.

    This automatically means he has Spurs potential....

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    He talking about Nazr/Rasho and said he doesn't regret not playing them.

    He's saying Nazr still has value to the team .. they aren't playing Dallas every day.

    ya to get someone of use in trade when nazr signs elsewhere.

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    Have you?

    I don't think he's overvalued. No one thinks he's starting quality, just a role player.
    Hmmm. From the posts around here I got the impression that people think HE is the solution of the "bigs problem". He is not.

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    Defended Manu, said he is something special and that sometimes his instincts take over and sometimes get the best of him, but that they wouldn't have gotten there without him. Said he has the guts to take the clutch shots. Said something to the effect that he would enter a foxhole with him.

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    ya to get someone of use in trade when nazr signs elsewhere.
    It was in response to a question about whether Nazr would be back. Pop gave the standard answer that they will talk to his agent this summer and that Nazr still has value to the team.

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    I'm one who thinks Javtokas is better out on the court than Rasho or Nazr.

    And I've seen enough to convince me. Not just of Javtokas, but of Rasho.

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    Hmmm. From the posts around here I got the impression that people think HE is the solution of the "bigs problem". He is not.

    I think he's part of the solution...the guys not a total stiff like you seem to think he is, I know this from watching him, he plays hard, he plays agressive...that alone makes him a rare bigman in todays NBA. That alone makes him part of the solution for this team.



    The guy was in a motorcycle wreck and wasn't expected to even be able to walk right ever again, much less ever play basketball again...that alone tells you what kind of effort he puts out on the court and what kind of character he has...

    So I know already part of your asessment is full of . And he can still freaking jump and he knows how to block shots...these things will translate to the NBA, as will effort.


    Whether or not his rebounding will translate and if he has the speed to guard NBA players...those are the questions about him.

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    Pop said you have to be versatile in the NBA now for all possible match-ups.
    Agreed, but why doesn't Dallas have to be versatile?

    Don't forget, Pop, you're Vince Lombardi at heart -- let 'em know what you're going to do, let 'em try to adjust, and let 'em try to stop it.

    Easy for me to say.

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    i've seen javtokas play in several games that were tape delayed on nbatv. he moves really well, has good hands, and boxes out very well. not the greatest shooter, but that's not what we need at that position - he also defends farily well. like any other euro there will probably be an adjustment period as far as officiating, but he's a solid player, which is what we need. he's quicker than rasho, and has way better hands than nazr.

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    It was in response to a question about whether Nazr would be back. Pop gave the standard answer that they will talk to his agent this summer and that Nazr still has value to the team.
    Yes, but I think Das Texan said it ok. Why would Pop said "Nazr sucks, we don't need him." if he doesn't have to? Sign&Trade should always remain a possibility.

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    Defended Manu, said he is something special and that sometimes his instincts take over and sometimes get the best of him, but that they wouldn't have gotten there without him. Said he has the guts to take the clutch shots. Said something to the effect that he would enter a foxhole with him.
    Manu Ginobilli isn't a basketball player, he's a force of nature. Any Spurs fan who criticizes him in the least . . . Well. I'll stop.

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    "NVE lost confidence in his shot"

    He never had a shot, only y-self confidence.

    He's another SJax, a career ty 35% - 36% 3G shooter and 41% FG shooter, who hit some big shots in big games that obscured that he has never been an efficient shooter. For perspective, the worst team in the NBA shoots a team FG% of about 42%.

    NVE has put on weight and has elbow bone spurs. He was finished a year ago.
    Pop sounds like he wanted Nick as a low-TO, pass-first PG, but Nick's frequent, early shot clocks bricks were effectively TOs for the Spurs. I guess ball-handling TOs look worse/hurt more than poorly-selected, bricked-shot T0s.

    Sad that Nick is the best backup PG the defending Champions could suit up.

    I would have loved Nick to be the Nick of Mavs Playoffs 03, but that was the last effective Nick we'll ever see.

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    Agreed, but why doesn't Dallas have to be versatile?
    I think it's pretty clear by now that Dallas is versatile. Besides, with the rules as they are, they did the right thing in forcing matchups.

    This is the point that I don't understand from the Rasho/Nazr camp -- it's not as if playing those guys was going to force the Mavs to go big on the defensive end. Neither Rasho or Nazr is a particularly strong offensive player. AJ could have played Dirk on either of those guys and not had to concern himself with any sort of fouling issues or the need for double teams. Since playing those guys wouldn't have forced Dallas to matchup on the offensive end (any differently than they did), and since those guys wouldn't have had anyone to defend on the defensive end, what good does playing them do?

    It seems to me that such a choice would have been far more stubborn than prudent.

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    Okay it is a perfect time to go to sleep. Nobody listening to me

    Seeya. I'll be back in 8-10 hours.

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    I think if tony was healthy in the beginning of the series against mavs he would have had more confidence in it.


    AND GUESS WHAT SPUR FANS
    POP WANTED TP TO SHOOT EVEN MORE JUMPERS IN THE POSTSEASON

    THAT SHOULD GET THE FIRE POP PEOPLE FIRED BACK UP

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    I think he's part of the solution...the guys not a total stiff like you seem to think he is, I know this from watching him, he plays hard, he plays agressive...that alone makes him a rare bigman in todays NBA. That alone makes him part of the solution for this team.



    The guy was in a motorcycle wreck and wasn't expected to even be able to walk right ever again, much less ever play basketball again...that alone tells you what kind of effort he puts out on the court and what kind of character he has...

    So I know already part of your asessment is full of . And he can still freaking jump and he knows how to block shots...these things will translate to the NBA, as will effort.


    Whether or not his rebounding will translate and if he has the speed to guard NBA players...those are the questions about him.
    I wasn't wrong about Nazr and I'm not wrong about Javtokas. This topic is bookmarked and I will request a "back-off post" when the time comes. Just tell me one thing, coz I'm new here. Were you one of those, who thought Nazr was the god-given miracle after the last season PO's? Simple yes or no would be enough. Other Javtokas fans could maybe also answer to this question? Thanks.

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    Were you one of those, who thought Nazr was the god-given miracle after the last season PO's? Simple yes or no would be enough.
    No. In fact I was probably the most anti-Nazr guy on the board.

    I think he does some things better than Javtokas...but he does play stupid sometimes, he's not really a good shotblocker or defender, and he has lousy hands.

    Nazr is an inconsistent garbage man.

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    Nazr GOOD but there is Some magic missing.. you know those great centers... GREAT... UBER..

    Where the heck did they all go??

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    I think it's pretty clear by now that Dallas is versatile. Besides, with the rules as they are, they did the right thing in forcing matchups.

    This is the point that I don't understand from the Rasho/Nazr camp -- it's not as if playing those guys was going to force the Mavs to go big on the defensive end. Neither Rasho or Nazr is a particularly strong offensive player. AJ could have played Dirk on either of those guys and not had to concern himself with any sort of fouling issues or the need for double teams. Since playing those guys wouldn't have forced Dallas to matchup on the offensive end (any differently than they did), and since those guys wouldn't have had anyone to defend on the defensive end, what good does playing them do?

    It seems to me that such a choice would have been far more stubborn than prudent.
    It was said 1000 times. Here is 1001st: rebounds, esp defensive rebounds, and block the drive-in-layup railroad Dallas had.

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    No. In fact I was probably the most anti-Nazr guy on the board.

    I think he does some things better than Javtokas...but he does play stupid sometimes, he's not really a good shotblocker or defender, and he has lousy hands.

    Nazr is an inconsistent garbage man.
    Ok, thanks.

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    It was said 1000 times. Here is 1001st: rebounds, esp defensive rebounds, and block the drive-in-layup railroad Dallas had.
    they way the game was being called nazr and rasho would have fouled out just as fast as damp and diop, making them ineffective and giving the mavs more free throws. no one wants that.

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    I think he's part of the solution...the guys not a total stiff like you seem to think he is, I know this from watching him, he plays hard, he plays agressive...that alone makes him a rare bigman in todays NBA. That alone makes him part of the solution for this team.



    The guy was in a motorcycle wreck and wasn't expected to even be able to walk right ever again, much less ever play basketball again...that alone tells you what kind of effort he puts out on the court and what kind of character he has...

    So I know already part of your asessment is full of . And he can still freaking jump and he knows how to block shots...these things will translate to the NBA, as will effort.



    Whether or not his rebounding will translate and if he has the speed to guard NBA players...those are the questions about him.
    He jumped over a car in a bet with his coach this year...the coach had to give the whole team the rest of the day off in practice if he could do it...and he did.

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    Small ball is here to stay. Even if we got past Dallas, Phoenix would be there waiting for us. Diaw is their "center" for chrissakes.

    Twin tower ball is dead. We need to change that philosophy and retool.

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    Small ball is here to stay. Even if we got past Dallas, Phoenix would be there waiting for us. Diaw is their "center" for chrissakes.

    Twin tower ball is dead. We need to change that philosophy and retool.
    we have proved we can beat phoenix by taking away a lot of their 3 point attempts and stopping them in key situations. i wasn't worrried too much about phoenix. dallas drives a lot more than phoenix so the same defensive philosophy wouldn't apply. we match up better vs phoenix than dallas.

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    He talking about Nazr/Rasho and said he doesn't regret not playing them.
    Dumbass. Someone should point out the points in the paint and rebounding, see how he feels then.

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