Buck Harvey: Manu's big error? Spurs see that now

[zeleni]

Reposting the info, remember the 'predictions' about Nocion i performance in the NBA, before his arrival?

FYI. In Tau Ceramica, Scola and Nocioni were team-mates, and despite Scola being ONE YEAR YOUNGER, he was CLEARLY AHEAD NOCIONI in performance, leaderships and Basketball IQ....very clearly......And Scola defense is pretty improved, he can guard any kind of big Guy, this year in Euroleague he has guarded players with great footwork without problems.

If you remember Nocioni and Manu cases, you should be aware that Scola has a pretty chance of making an impact in NBA, Oberto wasn't in the same league as Manu or Nocioni in Europe, he was clearly past his prime, so his case can't be applied to Scola.

Now here we disagree.
1.Nocioni was praised highly while Scola was just an athletic forward who liked to dunk. In TAU was Oberto the player everybody was praising.
Scola improved each year, but Oberto had the skills to run the team all those years.

2.When Oberto left for Pamesa, Scola became a quality core. Scola is more athletic, coaching staff wanted a quick jump to NBA up-tempo game, and chosen Scola to be the go-to guy. There was nothing quite clearly saying Scola is superior to anyone in anything. He is still one who is respected as the greatest runner-up in Europe... now that CSKA has finaly won a Final4.

[Dartherus]

Now here we disagree.
1.Nocioni was praised highly while Scola was just an athletic forward who liked to dunk. In TAU was Oberto the player everybody was praising.
Scola improved each year, but Oberto had the skills to run the team all those years.

2.When Oberto left for Pamesa, Scola became a quality core. Scola is more athletic, coaching staff wanted a quick jump to NBA up-tempo game, and chosen Scola to be the go-to guy. There was nothing quite clearly saying Scola is superior to anyone in anything. He is still one who is respected as the greatest runner-up in Europe... now that CSKA has finaly won a Final4.

I don't think you know Tau Ceramica Baskonia situation better than me
Scola was already CEARLY AHEAD of Nocioni the year before Nocioni went into NBA, in the King's cup he got the MVP stolen by a spanish player, Rudy Fernandez, depite Tau won the Cup over Fernandez's team DKV Joventut, and depite Scola almost doubled efficiency average over Rudy (almost 29 to 18), and despite Scola scored 6 pts in the final 2 minutes and Rudy disappeared in the hot moments...it was a pathetic show of Chauvinism...the gratest robbery I've seen in my life, wether directly or in TV.

Nocioni was the first denouncing the robbery of the MVP to Scola.

Then Nocioni was named MVP of the regulkar season that year, and again, Nocioni said that Scola deserved better than him...Tau ceramica fans saw it clearly also...

And all this it wasn't only about stats (scola stats where clearly the best of the team), Scola was already the captain of the team back then, and the leader in hot moments. If you wish, I can search for the exact stats, but any spanish fan will acknowledge this.

You also have another championship that perhaps US fans followed in TV, THE OLYMPICS, wasn't Scola clearly ahead of Nocioni then also? Did you notice that he was about to get the MVP who finally went to Ginobili, after scoring 25 pts and 11 rebounds in the le game? and having a great performance the whole tournament?

And even in the 2002 World championship? wasn't scola the second guy there already back then? Wasn't Scola ahead of Nocioni in BOTH tournaments?

About Oberto, the year he left, Scola was still a player in progress, and Ivanovic 8the coach them) preferred veterans like Oberto or Tomasevic, and with that situation, Scola stats/minute where clearly superior to the 2 'stars' of then.

Now oberto is clearly past his prime, while Scola seems to be about to reach it. Do you think they are in similar situation?

[zeleni]

I don't think you know Tau Ceramica Baskonia situation better than me
Scola was already CEARLY AHEAD of Nocioni the year before Nocioni went into NBA, in the King's cup he got the MVP stolen by a spanish player, Rudy Fernandez, depite Tau won the Cup over Fernandez's team DKV Joventut, and depite Scola almost doubled efficiency average over Rudy (almost 29 to 18), and despite Scola scored 6 pts in the final 2 minutes and Rudy disappeared in the hot moments...it was a pathetic show of Chauvinism...the gratest robbery I've seen in my life, wether directly or in TV.

Nocioni was the first denouncing the robbery of the MVP to Scola.

Then Nocioni was named MVP of the regulkar season that year, and again, Nocioni said that Scola deserved better than him...Tau ceramica fans saw it clearly also...

And all this it wasn't only about stats (scola stats where clearly the best of the team), Scola was already the captain of the team back then, and the leader in hot moments. If you wish, I can search for the exact stats, but any spanish fan will acknowledge this.

You also have another championship that perhaps US fans followed in TV, THE OLYMPICS, wasn't Scola clearly ahead of Nocioni then also? Did you notice that he was about to get the MVP who finally went to Ginobili, after scoring 25 pts and 11 rebounds in the le game? and having a great performance the whole tournament?

And even in the 2002 World championship? wasn't scola the second guy there already back then? Wasn't Scola ahead of Nocioni in BOTH tournaments?

About Oberto, the year he left, Scola was still a player in progress, and Ivanovic 8the coach them) preferred veterans like Oberto or Tomasevic, and with that situation, Scola stats/minute where clearly superior to the 2 'stars' of then.

Now oberto is clearly past his prime, while Scola seems to be about to reach it. Do you think they are in similar situation?

Thats just too much words.

I am just saying Oberto and Nocioni were Argentinian pillars for uprising of Scola. Without them Scola will still be... a forward who likes to dunk. That can be said even on that robbery you are talking about. Dominating with a big body and good assist.

Scola improved... but not on team success. They are a sure second runner-up on everything.

[MannyIsGod]

How good is Scola 14-18 ft from the basket?

[ducks]

How good is Scola 14-18 ft from the basket?

I'm not sure


I agree with this but trust the Spurs coaching staff to make the right decision. Scola's big weakness is a weak jump shot and Spurs already have a full time shooting coach with Chip. Who knows what he could do? The post up game won't go away. He plays decent perimeter defense from what I habe seen and is a hustler/rebounder. New NBA rules on the perimeter are closer to FIBA rules and the transition shouldn't be as tough. He could be a huge mismatch for a lot of teams like Bonzi Wells was in the Sacrasmento series.

that is from the article
also rebounding has been a problem in the past and rc got on him about that

[MannyIsGod]

Man, if he can't shoot a 15 foot jumper it will be really hard for him to play next to Duncan.

[wildbill2u]

Our problem is not having people who can spread the floor --we thought we had the best shooters and drivers in the league to do that.

Our problem was having people who can defend against another team that spreads the floor and shot better than our guys while out-defending and out-rebounding with amazing physical ability.

Now you can argue that Pop played into their strength, but how are you going to beat a team when you shoot 53% and they shoot 75% including 71% on 3s?

[Knoxville Spur]

Can Scola guard Nowitzki? That may be the $million question.

[Sway]

Until recently I was for trading away Scola’s rights, but the series with the Mavs has changed my mind. I thought Scola was obsolete due to playing the same position as Duncan. But, what if the Spurs played them together in a 2 PF rotation? Scola could allow us to play Spurs ball against the Mavs. He would provide rebounding, hustle, and take it to Dirk on the offensive end. His rebounding alone would be worth giving him a shot. Yeah I know Dirk would light him up for 45pts but is that really that much different from the 40pts we gave him this year. This of course is only possible if Scola lives up to all the hype.