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    You can't just make guaranteed contracts go away. You have to trade these players to other teams for equivalent contracts and those trades have to meet the very strict guidelines of the CBA.

    the link I gave you explains how it works.

    I think he's saying that perhaps you could trade Rasho for example for some sort of expiring contract (say Danny Fortson for example) then next year, you'd have his cap space.

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    I know that. That's what minus Nesterovic and Barry means - is loosing them in a sign and trade (in case of Thomas) or a regular trade in case of Pietrus. We could get other teams involved. If Thomas is really interested in playing for Spurs why not? Pietrus contract is small and he may want to play with Parker.

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    Id get whatever you could for

    Barry, Mohammed, Nesterovic, Udrih, Oberto

    clean house with the bigs, none of them are starting quality

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    I don't get it why everybody want's to trade barry so badly ? ? ?


    Ps. What's the GS cap space? Would Rasho fit to it? And if Rasho's gone then I do not want Nazr as only Bigman in SA team

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    Id get whatever you could for

    Barry, Mohammed, Nesterovic, Udrih, Oberto

    clean house with the bigs, none of them are starting quality

    That means we'd have to pick up a quality big and backup PG.

    Not saying it's impossible, just saying maybe it'd be better to concentrate on getting one or the other?

    I'd rather keep Beno and develop him, and get rid of the bigs for one quality big.

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    I don't get it why everybody want's to trade barry so badly ? ? ?


    Ps. What's the GS cap space? Would Rasho fit to it? And if Rasho's gone then I do not want Nazr as only Bigman in SA team
    GS payroll is 64.7 million (12.7 over)

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    I don't get it why everybody want's to trade barry so badly ? ? ?
    old

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    plus there is a slight possibility you could get a youngin in return for him, so youd do it

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    I don't think we can afford to get rid of both Rasho and Mohammed.

    That would leave a huge gap at the Center position, and the chances of upgrading those positions would be extremely difficult.

    Best bet would be to lose one via trade and grab us a SF in exchange.

    Pop said Mohammed has value to the team, and we don't play Dallas all the time.

    Quite frankly, I believe him. If we were playing Miami or Detriot, and maybe even Phoenix if Amare was there....we would be playing Mohammed.

    I would much rather see Rasho leave, than Mohammed. But Mohammed would be easier since he has no contract at the moment, and the team we would be trading him to would actually be okay with the deal he would get.

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    I would much rather Nazr leave than Rasho if we are picking one over the other. If you are going to get another center that is offensive minded, then Rasho is a good guy who can defend to have come off the bench. Nazr hasn't shown any improvement (regression?) on the defensive end in 1 1/2 seasons.

    I don't mind losing them both if what we get back is good though.

    It will be very interesting to see what happens with the bigs. My ideal team would have an athletic PF type next to Tim in the front court, not a protypical "center".

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    Dwight Howard is the answer guys. Call up the Magic.

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    I haven't read the entire thread, so I may be off track, however...


    ...I wouldn't mind losing both if there is an improvement in that position. I'm certain that many of us, don't want to lose both Centers only to get replacement who are worse. In a perfect scenario, bring in a Center/Power Forward who are athletic enough and keep either Nazr or Rasho.

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    Dwight Howard is the answer guys. Call up the Magic.

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    Dwight Howard is the answer guys. Call up the Magic.
    The Knicks will take anyone, so it would have to be a three-team or multi-team deal.

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    I too would be in favor of losing both if something better comes in return, but that seems highly unlikely, unless were dealing with Isiah Thomas.

    I like Mohammed's rebounding and actual physical demeanor. He seems a bit more athletic and is not afraid to go up for a put back slam...

    Rasho can score, but we have enough scoring with Duncan, Manu, Tony, Finley, and if needed...Bowen from three point land. Rasho's defense is okay, but I personally don't feel his defense is consitent enough.

    Actually, neither is real consistent, and thats why they both should leave, but that's unlikely because an upgrade looks bleak right now and we can't afford that big of a gap at the C position.

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    I would much rather Nazr leave than Rasho if we are picking one over the other. If you are going to get another center that is offensive minded, then Rasho is a good guy who can defend to have come off the bench. Nazr hasn't shown any improvement (regression?) on the defensive end in 1 1/2 seasons.

    I don't mind losing them both if what we get back is good though.

    It will be very interesting to see what happens with the bigs. My ideal team would have an athletic PF type next to Tim in the front court, not a protypical "center".

    What struck me listening to Pop on his show yesterday was the fact that right away he stressed the need for addressing the backup PG situation, then made reference to adding a 'Derrick McKey" type for the 3 position. Then he said, and I'm paraphrasing "...then we'll figure out the bigs."

    I can't see Pop getting rid of both Nazr & Rasho in favor of a 'versatile' lineup. But who knows, maybe the staff believes the league is changing and they better change with it.

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    Any word out of Atlanta on Al Harrington? Is he planning to leave as a FA? it's not like they are stacked at centers...I wonder if there is a deal there?

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    Any word out of Atlanta on Al Harrington? Is he planning to leave as a FA? it's not like they are stacked at centers...I wonder if there is a deal there?
    They reportedly had no interest in Rasho last year, and Nazr used to play for them -- IIRC, they traded him away.

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    Harrington has expressed interest in staying with Atlanta, but it's not a definite.

    He will definitely command more than the MLE and more than likely get it, so him becoming a spur seems a bit unlikely.

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    Harrington made about $7M this season, right?

    I don't know if he's worth that much to the Spurs.

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    Harrington has expressed interest in staying with Atlanta, but it's not a definite.

    He will definitely command more than the MLE and more than likely get it, so him becoming a spur seems a bit unlikely.
    He's expressed a strong desire to go to Chicago.

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    I can't see Pop getting rid of both Nazr & Rasho in favor of a 'versatile' lineup. But who knows, maybe the staff believes the league is changing and they better change with it.
    I'm not really talking about a versatile lineup with no real center. Timmy is the real center. So I'm moreso talking about adding a real PF next to him. Then maybe having bigs like Javtokas and/or Scola, Horry, etc on the bench. I wouldn't even mind Rasho here to come off the bench too.

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    Yeah, Harrington has expressed interest in Chicago, Atlanta, and possibly Indiana once again.

    Larry Legend might clean out house, and has talked about getting back Harrington.

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    I'm not really talking about a versatile lineup with no real center. Timmy is the real center. So I'm moreso talking about adding a real PF next to him. Then maybe having bigs like Javtokas and/or Scola, Horry, etc on the bench. I wouldn't even mind Rasho here to come off the bench too.
    Yeah...I was just fantasizing about switching Harrington and Rasho in that scenario for about the same amount of dollars. He could be a monster with duncan to take pressure off him...

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