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Yeah, but Ben is a freak at that height. I don't think a defense with Evans next to Duncan would work with funneling the pentration torwards the baselines.
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Never liked the guy. His offense sucks and the Spurs can't afford to have two starters that are sometimes a no show on offense. Oberto IMO if given time 20 minutes or so a game could easily averaged 5-6 rebounds a game. When he's played 10+ minutes he usually contributes a lot for the team.
Also like Kori said, he has a bad reputation around the league.
I can see your argument on how he can attempt to guard him, but judging from the last series....if you barely touch Dirk he goes to the line.
Dirk would just blow by Evans on the perimeter, which would more than likely cause Evans to foul him, and if he doesn't then Dirk goes free to the hole.
I would be all for Evans if Dirk primarily played post up because he's athletic enough down there in that cramped space to play good D....especially with that 7'2 wingspan, but I just can't see it on the perimeter.
given those minutes next to Duncan, Evans would average about 15.Oberto IMO if given time 20 minutes or so a game could easily averaged 5-6 rebounds a game
My only wonder with Evans is defense. I think he'll work out fine in all other aspects of the game, but would giving him major minutes require a change in the fundemental defensive scheme?
Yeah, I don't know if the Twin Tower alignment is practical anymore. With Dallas and Phoenix in the WCF, the NBA is going away from power basketball to speed basketball. The Spurs couldn't put a shot blocker on the court next to Duncan against the Mavs. Against the Suns, the Spurs could barely put Duncan out on the court
He's not an offensive player but neither were Nazr or Rasho. Evans can at least catch the ball.
And 5-6 rebounds doesn't help.
I would love Jarred Jeffries, but he is restricted.
Although, checking some Wizard boards, most fan's are not too high on him.
Jarvis Hayes and Caron are there at the SF, so if you offer Jeffries enough...the Wiz might have to reconsider, but the again, that would have to be a huge portion of the MLE.
I think the Spurs don't need to retool to guard Dirk. When you're able to guard Dirk with Bowen you're ok. The problems arose when they put Bowen on him and Jason Terry and Josh Howard got to the rim at will. Our real problem was in that series had nothing to do with stopping Dirk but with stopping penetration and grabbing rebounds.
I can be convinced that a rebounder will put the Spurs over a "hump" because that was the biggest weakness in both series this year. We got murdered on the glass.
What about Devean George, I posted something about him in another thread without many replies. He fits that athletic long three that could guard guys like Dirk and maybe even Amare. At 6-8, 235 lbs he would allow the Spurs to play small ball with him at the 4 and Duncan at the 5.
A decent shooter and guy that knows how to win. He's not going to ask for alot after a tough season last season.
Not a good rebounder nor a good defender. Can't guard the post. Isn't that mobile and isn't that long.
He can shoot, though
Yeah at first I was searching for a long three ... but then I remembered how Bonzi Wells got 23423 rebounds in a six game series.
true, but i doubt the wiz match if we sign Jeffries to a long term deal worth most or all the MLE when they have 3 or 4 other SFs on that team especially when they need someone who can score in the post (like scola)
I mean if we're spending the whole MLE on one player, or most of it anyway i'd rather get a guy who can play 3 positions versus scola or evans who only play 1 position.
I like Jeffries a little bit but he just doesn't do anything that well other than defend ... and he's not even that great at that. He's also not that good of a rebounder, shooter or passer.true, but i doubt the wiz match if we sign Jeffries to a long term deal worth most or all the MLE when they have 3 or 4 other SFs on that team especially when they need someone who can score in the post (like scola)
I mean if we're spending the whole MLE on one player, or most of it anyway i'd rather get a guy who can play 3 positions versus scola or evans who only play 1 position.
He has the size and the length but there needs to be more than that.
For some reason I've always liked Devean's game. He's a versatile player that can play three positions. I agree with the rebounding part, he's not a great rebounder for his position, but I've seen him play pretty good D on Dirk in the past. He's above an average defender that's for sure.
As a free agent who probably wouldn't mind a change after seven seasons with the Lakers, I'm sure he would listen carefully if the Spurs came with an offer.
Inagra. Look at last years stats against Amare. Do you think the Spurs are even interested in stopping him?
Anyway, to answer the thread, I'm not getting on board this train yet.
There's got to be a better alternative.
I like the defense Jeffries played against LeBron.
Sure, Jeffries offense has been inconsitent, but he can be one of those players where put in a winning situation can do wonders for him.
I don't know how many people knew Boris Diaw could play at such a high level...who knew he had this offensive game in him. In Atlanta, he was notorious for being too passive, and could barely get off the bench.
Parker, Ginobili, and especially Duncan could make Jeffries life a lot easier and he might even surprise most because of the environment those All-Stars provide for him.
Bowen then could be switched onto Dirk along with Finley, and Jeffries at 6-10 could hang with Howard speed wise, and cause Howard fits because of his size.
I personally would prefer Jeffries over Evans.
if the spurs have the opportunity to get Evans id like to see them take it. as has already been stated he is one of the top rebounders in the league and anything that would take pressure off tim is a good thing.
the best thing is guys with 'character problems' seem to be kept in line to an extent here so hopefully we wouldnt see too much problem there.
if he was to start next to tim would he get in the way on D is the big question. no doubt tims rebounding numbers would probably drop. as long as evans came here to win and knew his role i'd be all for it.
if he grabs the boards half as hard as he grabs the nuts we'd be in good shape
I am not sure how tall Reggie Evans is but if he is as tall as he is listed 6'8" then he is 3" taller than Malik because I have met Malik in person and he is like 6'5"
Not even just those 2 series, we got owned on the boards mainly all season.
Capital idea. RE's price may even be a little cheaper because of the grabbing incident. The twin towers idea would be great if we could do it, but I don't see any David Robinsons laying around. David was so athletic and brilliant, he could guard his own man and 1 and 1/2 other guys at the same time. David was what made the Spurs defense impeccable, but after his retirement, the Spurs defensive talent thinned and true centers are becoming extinct.
Oberto is barely NBA talent if he even belongs in the league. He's already short at 6'8'' for a PF/C but then he doesn't make up for it. He can't block shots. He can't shoot. He's slow and immobile. He's not very coordinated. He can't jump. He's smart enough, but he doesn't have the tools necessary. Basically, he's Rasho if Rasho was a little faster and 6 inches shorter.
I would like to see the Spurs take a chance on some raw talent at the 4/5 spot. The Spurs are notorious for their remarkable development of such players. If you get a 6'9'' guy with athletic ability who is smart with good work ethic, he could probably be worth an energetic 10 minutes in the playoffs.
I don't want the Spurs to spend $4 million on Scola. I've never seen him play in a whole game, but that is a ton of money for a guy whose never played in the NBA. We could have another Oberto on our hands which would basically sink the Spurs.
Also, Pop needs to stop being Person of the Year in the NBA. It is extremely generous of him to breed all of these hybrid Jr. Pop's and teach them the ways of the land and then let them go like a proud father, but it cannot be good for the Spurs. One, they have the coaching/personnel turnover of McDonalds. Two, all of these guys have the playbook in their heads.
Practically, at some point, it becomes detrimental to the Spurs. I've never seen any coach produce so many understudies, so quickly that are worthy for head coaching jobs or 1st assistants.
Back to Reggie Evans though, Timvp is right. This guy isn't a 10 of 10 perfect fit, but he looks like a really good addition. I don't know his contract status, but Ruben Patterson reminds me a little bit of his small forward likeness. Patterson would have been a good matchup for Bonzi Wells or other rebounding 3's, smaller 4's.
These guys are flat out tough guys, which would do the Spurs a world of good.
The Spurs are capable of a dynasty right with the core they have now. They just need to add a couple of more pieces to put some distance between them and the other teams. Dynasties don't arise from fielding compe ive teams. Dynasty teams are dominate.
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