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    Winning is boring. flipcritic's Avatar
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    I'm sure a lot of people here can figure out for themselves if it's satire or not. It sure didn't feel that way to me. It seems to be more of a provocation than a thoughtful piece.

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    I worry about critical reading abilities among Spurs fans.


    People, chill...the article is written as a compliment.

    The writer is asking for drama, turmoil, or "exciting" behavior from NBA teams. Drama to me means means 6 games of a series being decided by one or two points. Drama dosent mean Tim Duncan going around acting like Kobe was in Colorado a couple of years ago. Excitement to me is winning championships, or winning 63 games in a season. Not having one of our players punching other players in the balls (although it was funny). So to call a team boring for not displaying the type of behavior that is generally frowned on by society or legally prosecuted is not a complement.

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    Who is this guy, again? travis2's Avatar
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    It was an over-the-top piece, people! Are y'all trying to tell me you believe the Iraqi Information Minister too?

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    This seems like obvious "tongue in cheek". The way it is written is like he is making fun of those who don't like the Spurs.
    Exactly, wow you guys don't get it. You need to read the NY papers, we have an article like this every day. He likes the Spurs!

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    To me, this article seems to criticize other teams "antics" and shows admiration for the Spurs workman-like, professional at ude.

    I mean, what's boring about a team that if it wants to can hang with the highest scoring teams in the league? What's boring about a team that has 2 players that can get to the hoop at will? What's boring about a team that has regularly come back from big deficits in the 4th quarter (it's the small deficits they can't seem to overcome)?

    But you do have to admit. Except for the games themselves, there is little "newsworthy" about the Spurs.

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    Third, Popovich relied so heavily on the starters that they had nothing left in the extra session. Fourth, the calling card of the Spurs — their defense — let them down. ...Did Robert Horry have one more big shot left in him? We'll never know. Is Spurs center Rasho Nesterovic living in a different city, in the witness protection program? Rasho, after starting 121 games for Popovich the last two seasons, didn't get off the bench in five of the seven games against the Mavericks. In the 12 minutes that he did play in the series, he did not dare attempt a shot. Will anyone in the Spurs' organization second-guess Popovich's decision to play small lineups against the Mavs?"
    Can't say I don't agree with everything he had to say in this paragraph.

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    The San Antonio Spurs, the dullest team in professional sports, has mercifully been eliminated before the Conference finals.
    I had to stop right there so i could vomit.

    I'll be back to read the rest after my
    Last edited by ObiwanGinobili; 05-26-2006 at 08:28 AM. Reason: wrong damn word.

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    It seems this writer does not respect the game of basketball. He just wants to see a bunch of drama.

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    Sorry, it absolutely is NOT written as a compliment or as satire.

    There is no subtlety or irony to the language at all. There is only one way to interpret a statement like this:

    It's not that I don't like the Spurs. I do. It's not that I don't appreciate the Spurs place in history as one of the top team of all time. I do. The fact is, however, that I'm tired of them. They weren't exciting to watch and fun to read about when they were fresh and new to the scene.
    The guy is a mediocre writer who said everything he had to say after the first couple of paragraphs, and then just padded with a bunch of unrelated crap.
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    I think the guy was going for satire, but didn't quite pull it off.

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    Completely brainless article based on celebrating the worst and most insignificant part American culture. It's irrisponsible journalists like this guy that continue to willfully drag sports and sportsmanship through the dung that has become increasingly identified with sports.

    Stay tuned, . . .

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    The Dallas Mavericks advanced to the Conference finals, nearly blowing a golden opportunity when Jason Terry was suspended for throwing a punch at the Spurs Michael Finley in the closing seconds of Game 5 of their playoff series. Now, that's exciting!
    This is basketball, not the WWE. If punches are what he's looking for then he's eyeballing the wrong sport.
    The NBA fined Mavericks owner Mark Cuban $200,000 for going onto the court after Game 1 of Dallas' series against the Spurs and criticizing league officials on his blog. Following a Game 6 loss, Cuban apparently cursed Spurs' forward Bruce Bowen.

    The San Antonio chairman and CEO is someone named Peter Holt. Could you pick him out of a lineup?
    WTF?? name all the other NBA owners and point them out on the street. Do it. Do it now. I did not know that being a loudmouthed prick was an ownership requirement.
    How come he doesn't curse players, rip the referees, and take on the commissioner?
    Becasue he has 1/2 a brain? He knows it;s the NBA - not the Peter Holt show? Because he wasn't some looser geek in HighSchool who is trying to live vicariously thru the jocks he owns??
    I guess if you can;t make the team - you can always buy the team eh Mark?
    The San Antonio head coach is Gregg Popovich. He's no Zen-Master. He was never considered for leading man roles in Hollywood, like Miami head coach Pat Riley.
    No Zen-Master? WTF? He has 3 rings and he's ing ice-cold and brutal. Sorry he doesn't swing from great lined up team to great lined up team like Phil zen master Jackson. And Pat riley? leading man?? GOD DAMNIT once again a littel PSA: THIS IS THE NBA! NOT A MOTHER ING MOVIE!
    Let's move this Spurs team, and put them in New York.
    "Elliot Kalb" is a code name for "Stern's butt boy"
    The Finals have had either the Spurs or Lakers representing the Western Conference for seven straight years. The Lakers always had their share of gossip and turmoil and tumult. The Spurs were just boring
    For your viewing pleasure I recommend:
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    They are the I-Dulls of America. Don't expect to hear too much out of San Antonio until next year's playoffs.
    Thast it. the end of the article and he has yet to say anythign about basketball.
    ign .
    My 2 yr old knows more about basketball then this wad.

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    I worry about critical reading abilities among Spurs fans.


    People, chill...the article is written as a compliment.
    EXACTLY!!!

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    I think the guy was going for satire, but didn't quite pull it off.
    no. no he wasn't.
    if he had then he would've said somethign in the other direction to prove his piont.

    no. he's just a fake basketball fan.

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    That writer is pitiful and pathetic...whether he was trying to be satirical or not (if that IS what he was attempting, he failed miserably)...waste of my time...waste of good oxygen.

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    This seems like obvious "tongue in cheek". The way it is written is like he is making fun of those who don't like the Spurs.

    I agree.

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    That writer is pitiful and pathetic...whether he was trying to be satirical or not (if that IS what he was attempting, he failed miserably)...waste of my time...waste of good oxygen.

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    Jeez, for fans of a team that won three les, you guys sure are insecure.

    It's tongue-in-cheek. He's using the Spurs as a standard here and making a statement about the rest of the league's idiosyncrasies.

    Burn down his house? You really need to lighten up a little.

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    OMG, you guys are morons. This is obviously satire, I'm embarassed you guys don't get it.

    The San Antonio chairman and CEO is someone named Peter Holt. Could you pick him out of a lineup? Where's his "Trump-like" reality show? How come he doesn't curse players, rip the referees, and take on the commissioner? The San Antonio head coach is Gregg Popovich. He's no Zen-Master. He was never considered for leading man roles in Hollywood, like Miami head coach Pat Riley.

    There isn't a knucklehead in the Spurs organization. When Phil Jackson made sarcastic remarks belittling the Spurs' first championship in 1999, Popovich didn't publicly retaliate. San Antonio assistant coach P.J. Carlesimo has had many forums to denounce Latrell Sprewell, who physically attacked Carlesimo late in 1997, when both were with the Warriors. Instead, P.J. has only taken the high road. Which seems to be the only road in and out of San Antonio.
    Yeah, that sounds like insults to me... unless you think being a rude idiot is a compliment.

    About Rasho:
    In the 12 minutes that he did play in the series, he did not dare attempt a shot.
    That sounds like a slam on Rasho, not Pop. Again, I'm thinking he questions those that question Pop's "small ball" approach, not the other way around... especially since the whole paragraph is preceded by a reference to New York - in other words, New Yorkers would be happy with a chance to win a game 7, , they'd be happy to even make it to the Playoffs!

    But in case there's any doubt:

    Don't expect to hear too much out of San Antonio until next year's playoffs.
    In other words, see you losers next year, when the real champs come back and win it all again.

    Until then, you won't hear any from the SA coaches or players, unlike other teams that fire their coaches or totally rebuild after one loss...
    Last edited by MadDog73; 05-26-2006 at 09:08 AM.

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    It was satire...He raised some valid negatives on coaching decisions but he wasn't REALLY knocking the Spurs...

    Don't expect to hear too much out of San Antonio until next year's playoffs.
    calm down guys.

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    It was satire...He raised some valid negatives on coaching decisions but he wasn't REALLY knocking the Spurs...

    I'm not even sure he did that.

    Popovich relied so heavily on the starters that they had nothing left in the extra session.
    Like our Bench was doing anything anyway. We came back from 20 points down, of course we had nothing left. The writer knows that.

    But again, if you're not totally sure this guy likes Pop:

    After the crushing defeat that eliminated his team, San Antonio coach Popovich said that the Mavericks deserved to go on. "They obviously deserve to move on. It's a disappointing loss for us. It's impressive what Dallas has done. I wish them the best." Where was the finger-pointing? Where was the frustration and outrage at the media?
    Then he goes on to "praise" Avery Johnson:

    Avery Johnson, who is a young, head coach that played for Popovich, is exciting. He's exciting to listen to. He's exciting to watch. He hit a game-winning shot to win the 1999 NBA Finals. As a head coach, he wasn't afraid to use his bench. He wasn't afraid to change his lineup. He has made Dirk Nowitzki play closer to the basket, eliminating many of his 3-point attempts from years past.
    Those points to me are like, "well, duh." I mean, props to Avery, but it doesn't take a Genius to figure out that Dirk would be a much better player if he was more agressive. And, again, if Pop had a bench, he would have used it. And isn't "He wasn't afraid to change his lineup," basically the same thing Pop did?

    I don't want to turn this into another "small ball" debate, but I'm not convinced this writer was really criticising Pop and praising AJ as much as it appears on the surface.
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    Just stating my opinion. If that makes you think I'm a homer, so be it. I couldn't care less.

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    Re ed article. Funny how he said that the Spurs were more boring than the Pistons.... maybe, but not by much
    I think the national media thinks the Pistons are more interesting because Rasheed still sometimes makes for decent copy and because last year y'all had the Larry Brown soap opera.

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    I had to stop right there so i could vomit.

    I'll be back to read the rest after my
    Mmmmmm, thanks for using the coffee smilie Obi. I think I'll go get me a cup.

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    how i wish a have one voodoo doll like Spurschick I could use for this one of dumbest sportswriters of all time.
    Have fun!
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