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    He's Manu Ginobili carina_gino20's Avatar
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    i read my post again and it was ambiguous. i was indeed referring to the World Basketball Championships but I referred to it as World Cup because I've seen Manu refer to it as world cup before. but i shud have seen it coming what with the real World Cup coming soon.

    anyway, what's the average height and age of this argentine basketball team? and what do you think are their chances of winning the WBC this year?

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    i read my post again and it was ambiguous. i was indeed referring to the World Basketball Championships but I referred to it as World Cup because I've seen Manu refer to it as world cup before. but i shud have seen it coming what with the real World Cup coming soon.
    Don't sweat it, the fact that it was posted in a basketball forum, made it far more reasonable to assume it a minor terminology mix-up that ultimately referred to basketball, rather than a completely separate topic altogether as it would be with soccer.

    Maybe some need to use better judgment, besides reading...
    anyway, what's the average height and age of this argentine basketball team? and what do you think are their chances of winning the WBC this year?
    Here's height and age for some key players:
    • PG: Pepe Sánchez (29, 6'4") / Pablo Priogioni (29, 6'1")
    • SG: Manu Ginóbili (28, 6'6") / Carlos Delfino (23, 6'6")
    • SF: Andrés Nocioni (26, 6'7") / Walter Herrmann (26, 6'8")
    • PF: Luis Scola (26, 6'9")
    • C: Fabricio Oberto (31, 6'10") / Rubén Wolkowyski (32, 6'10")

    So, that's a pretty veteran team, and the height is good by NBA standards at the 1 through 3, but a bit undersized at the 4 and 5.

    As for the chances, I believe that gold is for USA to lose, but we have a good enough team to fight for a medal. Still, nowadays international basketball is very compe ive, and a bad game in the quarterfinals can change everything. I expect them to do well, but I wouldn't venture anything beyond that.

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    Manu best NBA season so far was right after he won tournament MVP at the olympics. A good perfomance with the national team would probably boost his confidence.
    What would a subpar world performance do to him?

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    What would a subpar world performance do to him?
    When was the last time he had a subpar perfomance with the national team? I can't even remember.

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    So what are the chances that Delfino gets serious PT behind Manu? It sure would be nice for him to come back to training camp with tons of confidence.

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    So what are the chances that Delfino gets serious PT behind Manu? It sure would be nice for him to come back to training camp with tons of confidence.
    I believe that Delfino would have only limited minutes as Manu's backup, he might get lucky during periods of games, if we go small (yeah, small ball again lol), and he is moved to the SF spot, with Nocioni as PF.

    Montech leaving might be tough. He was excellent against the USA, coming off the pick and hitting the 3. He was a different player then Pepe, better scoring talent. Isn't that kind of a tough loss from a role player standpoint and stylistically at the PG position?
    As long as there is another 3 point shooter who is hot, it doesn't matter if he is a PG. Actually, in Argentina historically, the PG spot is reserved for a playmaker, "pass first", kind of player, who only shoots if the shot clock is running down. I'm worried that there is no pure shooter in the roster so far. Manu, Wolkowisky, Fernandez, Nocioni, Gutierrez, Prigioni, Herrmann, Delfino and Sanchez can shoot the 3, and get hot ocasionally, but they aren't 3 point specialists.

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    Argentina will win it all this year, not only the basketball championship but the world cup and davis cup.

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    Does anyone know what happened to Matias Sandes?

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    Also, how come Walter Herrmann isn't playing in the NBA? When I saw him in the Olympics he seemed pretty damn good to me.

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    Anyone know?

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    Also, how come Walter Herrmann isn't playing in the NBA? When I saw him in the Olympics he seemed pretty damn good to me.
    Well he's in the neighborhood of 27, and is trying to convert from a post player to a wing. There may also be buyout issues. Who knows.

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    As long as there is another 3 point shooter who is hot, it doesn't matter if he is a PG. Actually, in Argentina historically, the PG spot is reserved for a playmaker, "pass first", kind of player, who only shoots if the shot clock is running down. I'm worried that there is no pure shooter in the roster so far. Manu, Wolkowisky, Fernandez, Nocioni, Gutierrez, Prigioni, Herrmann, Delfino and Sanchez can shoot the 3, and get hot ocasionally, but they aren't 3 point specialists.

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    I wonder if Matias Sandes is going to go into the NBA.

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    I was in Argentina in April of '05 and, trust me, basketball ain't that big there. I saw one billboard with Manu's picture on it in Buenos Aires -- an advertisement for a bank.

    I saw one or two basketball courts in all of BA, tops. In short, basketball is about as popular in Argentina as Margaret Thatcher.

    It would serve them right if we won the World Cup in soccer.

    (All kidding aside, it's a nice country to visit -- great wine country in Mendoza).

    Malvinas son Argentinas!

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    Matías Sandes is still playing here in Argentina (not right now, really, his team didn't make to the finals). He's been under contract with Tau for about a year now, but they allowed him to continue playing in our league for the time being. I don't know if he's going to play one more season here or he will be doing so in Spain.

    NBA? I just don't see it happening, he would have to REALLY improve his game, considering he's not even the best player in our league. Mind you, the best Argentine players are already in Europe or in the NBA. He's still young though.

    As for Herrmann, he's not doing so well and is not happy with his team. Apparently, he's looking forward to playing somewhere else next season.

    Saludos.

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    I was in Argentina in April of '05 and, trust me, basketball ain't that big there. I saw one billboard with Manu's picture on it in Buenos Aires -- an advertisement for a bank.

    I saw one or two basketball courts in all of BA, tops. In short, basketball is about as popular in Argentina as Margaret Thatcher.

    It would serve them right if we won the World Cup in soccer.

    (All kidding aside, it's a nice country to visit -- great wine country in Mendoza).

    Malvinas son Argentinas!
    Basketball is the 3rd most popular sport in Argentina. It is very big in the interior of the country, not so big in the City of BA.

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    Whoa. That's deep. spurschick's Avatar
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    Basketball is the 3rd most popular sport in Argentina. It is very big in the interior of the country, not so big in the City of BA.
    If futbol is the first and basketball is third, what is second?

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    If futbol is the first and basketball is third, what is second?
    I'd say rugby

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    You are totally CRAZY, TOTALLY .....or should i say FUNNY??

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    Probably Car Racing or Tennis, but I think Basketball is second. (And first in Bahia Blanca)

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    Will Manu play in every other game?

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    Argies: If you have to choose... Bball cup? or Soccer cup?

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    Here's the team:
    http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/05...m-01204525.htm

    There's a chance that Sebastián Ginóbili plays along with his brother Manu, that would be nice. I'd like to see Kammerich getting some minutes there.

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    I would say:

    1st. Futbol, there's no compe ion
    2nd. Futbol
    3rd. Futbol
    4th. Tennis and Basketball
    5th. Motor Sport and Rugby
    6th. Volleyball, Boxing and Field Hockey
    etc.

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    I thought for sure that rugby was more popular than basketball???

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