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You've made a pretty compelling case that we need to dump salary to add salary, otherwise I would suggest a Nazr sign and trade.Keep the Sho!
We might be able to replace Rasho by adding a guy like Pollard for half the midlevel.
Keep the Sho!
You've made a pretty compelling case that we need to dump salary to add salary, otherwise I would suggest a Nazr sign and trade.Keep the Sho!
We might be able to replace Rasho by adding a guy like Pollard for half the midlevel.
POLLARD? Now you talking, just what we need a player with some BALLS to post down low and REBOUND !!!!!!!!!
not to mention put some of them "SMALL BALL" ers on their ass when they drive the lane.......
It was a wink for angel_luv.
I agree with you (and me
I'm a big fan of Pollard as 4th or 5th bigmen, even if I take Javtokas over him. The problem is that we will have still our 5 bigs : Duncan/starting PF/Horry/Javtokas/Oberto. If we trade Oberto, Pollard can be great solution.
SJax > JR Smith
We needed someone like Sjax at some points during the season, and during the Dallas series to bring some fire to the team...
I would rather overpay Jax than overpay Rasho. And Jax wouldn't need anytime to get acclimated. It would be great, for a change, to be able to have a group of guys that are used to playing with each other to begin the season.
joneal would be nice
You realize that on opening night of the three previous seasons the Spurs have had the exact same starting line-up:
Tony
Manu
Bruce
Tim
Rasho
You are one of the people proposing a change to that.
Maybe we can get Wade too.joneal would be nice
atleast oneal there is a actually possiblity he is on the block
wade has no chance
oneal makes 18 million next year
kg for oneal make the most since
It was Jack who brought the Spurs back on the road in the '03 WCF. It was Jack who was knocking down championship winning treys in the '03 Finals. Spurs fans seem to forget what he did in SA. A Jack return might just help him and the Spurs get back to where they used to be.
I thought it was spurs need one player with a headband
Yeah, 6 guys is too many unless one of them is someone like Kiwi for the minimum -- Oberto isn't all that expensive, but probably too pricey to leave inactive.
Hmm.
Sjax isn't a SF and he's a horrible defender, he makes Finley look like Bruce. Sjax doesn't solve our need for a long 3 he'd be just another SG backing up manu and right now Finley>Sjax
What makes you say that?
He was a sound defender when he was here, and while he's not tall for an SF, he's not small for one either.
Stephen Jackson is at least 6'9". When he was here, I remember Kori mentioning that there was a large difference in the heights between Jack, listed at 6'8" and Bowen listed at 6'7". She noticed when she was doing interviews. I started watching players on the floor during stoppages in play, and Jack isn't that much shorter than Duncan, who is probably between 6'10" and 6'11".
In fact, it's not true : Parker was injured for the start of 03-04 season.
SJax was a solid defender while a Spur. It was the combination of he and Bruce that did a number on Kobe and the Lakers. Oh, Manu helped too. The three of them made it tough for teams with quick 2's and 3's. Some of you have amnesia, but SJax helped this team tremendously.
Often, it was his shooting the timely 3 that gave the Spurs the edge. Not to mention that swagger that many of U associated with acquiring Ron Artest.
Stay tuned, . . .
Bring SJax home, and find a way to get J. R. Smith. Everyone else under 6'9" is a joke and would be woefully inadequate.
Jackson can be 6'8" or 6'10" or even 8'2", it's not the problem.
Will you play Jackson at PF ?
No for me, he isn't a good rebounder and with Jackson at PF we will be killed on the board. Jackson will have difficulties to defend the opposite PF.
Now, there are 96 minutes available at SG/SF and you have to split them between Manu/Finley/Bowen/Jackson : good luck to keep everyone happy about his playtime.
Jackson will be expensive too and we will have less money to spend for bigmen. The max we should spend for our long 3 is $3M/year if he can't play some PF.
We don't have many ferocious players on this team. Really, Manu is about it most of the time, and even he disappears sometimes. Jack is fierce, and he's fearless. That alone would be a big win for the Spurs.
What about Rasho+Oberto for Jack, let Nazr leave, dump Barry for a trade exception and a cheap kid, sign Scola for $4M or so, Javtokas for the LLE, and fill in the bottom of the roster with kids or guys for the minimum?
The Barry trade might not be the easiest thing to accomplish, but if it could be done, it would put the salaries in the right ballpark.
Edit: Reggie Evans might also work instead of Scola if we want better rebounding instead of inside offense.
You can do scenarios where Spurs get Jackson without paying the luxury tax but it changes nothing to the problem.
None of Bowen/Manu/Finley/Jackson can play PF. You don't have enough playtime for them. Just fo the playtime breakdown and you will realize it.
Our long SF will be the 4th swingman, he won't get a lot of playtime unless he can play some PF too. Jackson is too talented and too expensive to be a 4th swingman.
Bruce will be 35 at the start of the season next year, and Manu is burning himself up for Argentina again this summer. Jack will play, and yes, he can scavenge some minutes at the 4 against the Phoenixes, the Dallases, and the Sactos. They'd better get used to playing Small Ball. Teams are going to use it against them now. Jack doesn't get a ton of rebounds, but that's usually because he's hanging about the perimeter. If he were told "You are a combo forward and we want some more rebounding", I'd bet he could do it. He has averaged close to 5 lurking on the perimeter.
IIRC, next is Bowen's last season under contract. If they want to break in a replacement, they need to do it tommorrow. Jack would probably be inclined to tolerate a reduced role if he knew the SF spot was his in '07.
Bowen has made one of his best season and will be motivated to play at the top level with the olympics games.
Manu best season was when he played with argentina the summer. The mondial in Japan is soon enough this year to allow some rest for players before the start of the season.
There are maybe 12-16min available at SG/SF for a long SF, nothing more.
Jackson can't defend against 80% of the PFs. He is a SG/SF and not a SF/PF. He won't get any playtime.
Dallas isn't a small ball team. Small ball isn't widly used and small ball with a lineup with only one good rebounder sucks.
Jackson isn't a good rebounder. He averages 5rbd in 36 min when he played SF, nothing great. Even Manu is a better rebounder than Jackson.
And good luck to turn Jackson into a combo forward.
Bowen has still 2 season on his contract. The second season isn't guaranteed but with his great work ethic and the olympics I think he will be able to play something like 24min/game in 07-08.
Jackson is well known for being higly coachable. I'm quite sure a player who is such a team first player will greatly apreciate to be on the bench during one or two years in his prime.
Trading for Jackson is a bad idea like keeping Devin last summer was.
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