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    Demanding a trade doesn't sound like Sho to me.



    The Slogan is Keep the Sho.

    Get it right.

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    That is why I am doubting this claim. In his career, Rasho has always been about what it best for the team. He comes from a culture and a basketball climate in which that is simply how you are supposed to be. He spent time helping Nazr all the while Nazr wanted his starting job and sometimes even got it. He has said nothing but good things about liking being in San Antonio. I could never ever imagine the words coming out of Rasho's mouth that he would rather be anywhere than here- just not believable.

    This is a report from some hoopsworld guy that I have never even heard of and who thinks the Spurs can be spenders in free ageny- which they can't. Don't you think that someone in SA would have heard this-- reporters who even travel with the team. Has there been any inkling from any local media or Slovenian media that Rasho has said anything like this? Sure, the guy would llike to play, but the notion that he suddenly wants a trade so bad, especially when all indications are that Nazr is leaving, would make little sense right now.

    Even last summer, Rasho was asked by a Slovenian reporter if he wanted to be traded after not hardly playing in the play-offs. Rasho told the reporter that this is not how it works. That in Rasho's view, the NBA team owns your contract and it does whatever it wants to do- whether keep you or trade you- deciding whatever they think is best for the team. The player does not have any say-so at all into what they do with you.
    That and he's living a montenegrian dream: getting payed millions for sitting.

    I feel a great world championship coming in Japan. Whole different than the World Cup we had in Korea.
    i blocked that out of my memory... why did you have to bring it up?

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    That definitely doesn't sound like something Rasho would say, but realistically it doesn't really matter. Spurs will be be trying pretty hard to move him this summer, regardless. The only factor really involved is if any team will be willing to take him (and his contract) and him demanding a trade isn't going to have any effect on that.

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    i blocked that out of my memory... why did you have to bring it up?

    This year's W.C. is going to be awesome.

    BELIEVE.

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    I see now people want Pop fired.


    Hey Pimpo, just curious, who would you like to coach instead?

    Names, dont give me your candyass answers either.

    Discuss and act like an adult or gtfo.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Rasho wants out (but I doubt he'd say it to a hoopsworld reporter).

    The most unbelievable thing to me in the post is:

    Don’t be surprised to see the Spurs active in the trade discussions this summer, and they are expected to be spenders on free agents.
    They don't even have much to spend.

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    I guess they mean with the MLE and the LLE.

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    If Rasho wants to go somewhere else, than I mostly want him to get to go there. I want him to be happy.

    I just don't want to imagine Sho not being here- feels really, really wrong.

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    I just don't want to imagine Sho not being here- feels really, really wrong
    You must not have been a Spurs fan pre 2003 04.

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    You must not have been a Spurs fan pre 2003 04.

    If you would be sensitive to how much I love Sho, you would know that comments like that are neither helpful nor necessary.

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    I guess they mean with the MLE and the LLE.
    No, they are probably just stupid and think the Spurs have money to be considered "spenders" in free agency.

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    First , hoopsworld : we can doubt about the truth of this.

    Second, I can understand that Rasho is fed up. You can say that he sucks but this guy has been a starting center for almost 500 nba games. The truth is that he is a bad fit in San Antonio.
    Rasho is a true center who plays good D with some offensive skills but isn't a great rebounder.
    Pop ask him to defend PF because Duncan can't defend most of the PF, there aren't any sytem for him because Duncan is the low post scorer and we need rebounding from the C spot because bowen is a poor rebounder.

    Rasho on the right team, that is to say with a real PF and a SF who can rebound, can be a good starting center. Just look at what he has done with Wolves and with Slovenian NT.

    Free the Sho.
    I would love to see him in Toronto. he would be a good mentor for bosh and villanueva and he would be a good anchor for this young team that needs a true center, Bosh is a PF and villanueva is SF/PF. They have a ton of capspace, and some assets: mo pete, bonner we could use.

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    I like how Rasho played in the first couple games of the playoffs this year. If he can come off the bench and play like that, he's a useful player. Still not worth his contract but better than nothing.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Rasho wants out (but I doubt he'd say it to a hoopsworld reporter).
    That was sort of my point. Even if Rasho were frustrated, how would this be the one reporter to know it! He isn't even the "regular" guy who covers the Spurs for hoopsworld or the guy who covers the international players for hoopsworld either.

    I also noticed one major omission by this guy. I think most would agree that when it comes to possible trades, that Brent Barry would deserve a mention. He is after all the guy who almost got traded in February. The Spurs will keep Manu, Bruce, and Michael, so he is the fourth swingman and most "expendable." If Nazr is so surely gone, Rasho would not be as easy to "replace" if you want some true center with NBA experience on the team. To get rid of Beno, you have to have a back-up point guard in mind. It does not mean the Spurs won't explore trades involving any and all of these guys- and maybe even others- but any Spurs trade talks would probably start with Brent- as evidenced by the activities on the trade deadline.
    Last edited by ploto; 05-27-2006 at 04:15 PM.

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    He isn't even the "regular" guy who covers the Spurs for hoopsworld or the guy who covers the international players for hoopsworld either.
    He's the guy who runs Hoopsworld though.

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    He's the guy who runs Hoopsworld though.
    Oh- well that gives him even less credibility!!

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    I think this might add credibility to those rumors that we go after ben wallace.
    i think also it makes signing javkotes? more of a sure thing.
    Not sure what places woudl want rasho though.

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    First , hoopsworld : we can doubt about the truth of this.

    Second, I can understand that Rasho is fed up. You can say that he sucks but this guy has been a starting center for almost 500 nba games. The truth is that he is a bad fit in San Antonio.
    Rasho is a true center who plays good D with some offensive skills but isn't a great rebounder.
    Pop ask him to defend PF because Duncan can't defend most of the PF, there aren't any sytem for him because Duncan is the low post scorer and we need rebounding from the C spot because bowen is a poor rebounder.

    Rasho on the right team, that is to say with a real PF and a SF who can rebound, can be a good starting center. Just look at what he has done with Wolves and with Slovenian NT.

    Free the Sho.

    This is probably the worst post i've EVER seen here. That says a lot.


    First you say bull to the source, then you basically say, "well, duh. I knew that."


    But worst of all, when did Rasho play with a rebounding SF?


    Did Marion secretly replace Wally at some point in there careers?




    As much as i kiss Pop's ass, that's one of the stupidest decisions ever not to use those two big guys.

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    that's one of the stupidest decisions ever not to use those two big guys
    Id love to know how Rasho or Nazr no hands Mohammed was gonna keep the Mavericks from making jump shots.

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    Rasho?

    Big deal

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    Id love to know how Rasho or Nazr no hands Mohammed was gonna keep the Mavericks from making jump shots.
    No one said anything about jump shots. They said plenty about offensive rebounds for the Mavs (+25 for them in the series) and points in the paint *cough Devin Harris cough*

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    This is probably the worst post i've EVER seen here. That says a lot.
    Thanks.

    First you say bull to the source, then you basically say, "well, duh. I knew that."
    I don't say that, please re-read. I say that I can understand why a guy who has started 500 games with KG and TD is pissed about being benched. Rasho isn't a rookie and the way Pop has put him in and out since his injury last season isn't the more pleasant thing.

    But worst of all, when did Rasho play with a rebounding SF?


    Did Marion secretly replace Wally at some point in there careers?
    Gary Trent and Joe Smith. During the 2002 and 2003 seasons (Rasho's best seasons as a wolve), Wally mainly played SG.

    As much as i kiss Pop's ass, that's one of the stupidest decisions ever not to use those two big guys.
    Playing with only one big against Dallas was the less worst thing to do.

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    Id love to know how Rasho or Nazr no hands Mohammed was gonna keep the Mavericks from making jump shots.

    The frustrating thing about Pop in this series was he didn't even TRY to play Spurs ball (by that, I mean playing Spurs ball for more than one minute). He could have at least given it a chance for 1/2 quarter! The small ball Spurs played put so much damn pressure on Timmy not only offensively but defensively but what's done is done--we can still talk about it.

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    Thanks.



    I don't say that, please re-read. I say that I can understand why a guy who has started 500 games with KG and TD is pissed about being benched. Rasho isn't a rookie and the way Pop has put him in and out since his injury last season isn't the more pleasant thing.



    Gary Trent and Joe Smith. During the 2002 and 2003 seasons (Rasho's best seasons as a wolve), Wally mainly played SG.



    Playing with only one big against Dallas was the less worst thing to do.

    Nice try, both backup PF's. If your going to call Trent a SF you might as well call Charles Barley a SG. Wally did play SG ONE YEAR and Kev SF ONE YEAR but you, I and the whole world knows that Wally is a SG, KG is a PF and Those two backups are PF's. Funny you mention Rasho's last year as a wolf. Wally played 2 guard on '01-02, NOT 02-03. It WAS his allstar year but the defense was so hoooorrrrribbbblleee that he had to stay at SF ('nother brialliant idea Flip) But you seem to think that in rasho's last year the lineup was Rasho, Joe Smith, KG, Wally, Hudson.


    Laughable at best. I'm sure that combo hit the floor but it wasn't that much.


    Joe Smith is 6'10. He isn't deceptively quick, nor a great range shooter. What makes you think he's a SF?

    As for Trent? You've never seen him nor his game to say something like that.



    Tell any wolves fan that you wish the spurs would have had some of our SF's in the past that can rebound and after theyre done laughing they'll ask if you'd like some of our brilliant slashing SG's and our NBA rings also.

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    Nice try, both backup PF's. If your going to call Trent a SF you might as well call Charles Barley a SG. Wally did play SG ONE YEAR and Kev SF ONE YEAR but you, I and the whole world knows that Wally is a SG, KG is a PF and Those two backups are PF's. Funny you mention Rasho's last year as a wolf. Wally played 2 guard on '01-02, NOT 02-03. It WAS his allstar year but the defense was so hoooorrrrribbbblleee that he had to stay at SF ('nother brialliant idea Flip) But you seem to think that in rasho's last year the lineup was Rasho, Joe Smith, KG, Wally, Hudson.


    Laughable at best. I'm sure that combo hit the floor but it wasn't that much.
    2002 : KG 81 GS and Rasho 82 GS.
    Smith has started 63 games and Trent 10 games.
    Wolves have started 72 games with a good rebounder at SF.

    2003 : KG 82 GS and Rasho 77 GS
    Smith has started 21 games, Woods 11 and Trent 22 games
    Wolves have started 49 games with a good rebounder at SF.

    It don't matter if Garnett or Smith/Trent was the SF : Rasho has played a lot of minutes with 2 good rebounders at SF and PF and it helps to hide his rebounding weakness. With SA he has never played with 2 good rebounders.

    And you are a wolve fan.
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