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    Harris is not ready to take over at PG and Terry has been great there for us. 10 million is too high but Terry won't take money over the chance to win. Before coming to Dallas the best season he had was 35 wins in Atlanta and now he's on a yearly le contender with Dallas. I think he'd take a couple million dollar cut to stay on a contender over going to places like Charlotte, Toronto, Orlando or back to Atlanta.

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    I think he can afford to give Terry a huge contract with our salary cap more manageable than before. $10-million is the highest offer I can see someone giving him which isn't hard to match.
    Terry isn't going anywhere. Van Horn's contract is $15 million per and it comes off the books this summer. Terry will get his salary slot.

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    Terry is going to get some big, long term offers. I imagine Cuban will suck it up and blow the salary cap to smithereens. Cuban claimed he was going to get fiscally responsible. We'll see.

    Maybe the Spurs should go after Mbenga. Put a little hurt on Marky's wallet.
    I thought they got terry just so they could wait tell their rookie draft PG could be proven. And the reason they let nash go was because he was to expansive and they had aquired a good PG in the draft to replace him. BUt now can anyone tell me whay mavs woudl NOT give the max to the MVP in NASH but will want to give it to terry, which i think was just a short term solution until pg in draft turned good.

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    Terry isn't going anywhere. Van Horn's contract is $15 million per and it comes off the books this summer. Terry will get his salary slot.
    Right around the corner is Howard and in Terry's contract window is re-upping Dirk at mega-bucks and Devin Harris. The Dumpster and Daniel's are on the books for a long time. Either Cuban keeps trying to buy the ring or joins the rest of the league in being fiscally responsible.

    We all know Cuban wants what's best for the league and compe iveness. LMFAO.

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    Right around the corner is Howard and in Terry's contract window is re-upping Dirk at mega-bucks and Devin Harris. The Dumpster and Daniel's are on the books for a long time. Either Cuban keeps trying to buy the ring or joins the rest of the league in being fiscally responsible.

    We all know Cuban wants what's best for the league and compe iveness. LMFAO.
    Marquis Daniels is probably getting moved this summer in a salary dump. He makes $5 million and Avery doesn't seem to be a big fan of his game. This is the perfect series to play him and he can't get on the court. I imagine if we need to move Dampier we only need to call up Isiah Thomas.

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    And who will pick up that dump? Daniels hasn't exactly made himself a hot commodity with his playoff performance? Dampier? Good luck.

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    Terry isn't going anywhere. Van Horn's contract is $15 million per and it comes off the books this summer. Terry will get his salary slot.
    even with 15 mill off the books, they are still way over the cap - i think their payroll was 90 million this year, second only to the knicks. i guess we'll find out whether cubes was serious about being somewhat fiscally responsible. paying nearly the salary cap in luxury tax probably gets old after a while.
    Edit: sorry, the 90 mill was for 04-05. with finley's salary not counting, it was probably down a bit. but still pretty high.

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    Diop ing sucks. DAMPIER is way better. Diop just had one good stretch against Duncan.
    I can't tell if that's sarcasm or just plain idiocy.

    Your gay-ass signature tells me it's the latter.

    Diop is a major key in Dallas taking over this Phoenix series. And to say he only had one good stretch against Duncan is selling him way short. He did it in OT of a game 7 with a broken nose. There's nothing that " ing sucks" about it.

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    I can't tell if that's sarcasm or just plain idiocy.

    Your gay-ass signature tells me it's the latter.

    Diop is a major key in Dallas taking over this Phoenix series. And to say he only had one good stretch against Duncan is selling him way short. He did it in OT of a game 7 with a broken nose. There's nothing that " ing sucks" about it.
    diop was a non-factor until that overtime for the most part. duncan was dehydrated, but diop stepped up and stopped him. i still don't think he's a long term answer at center, but was a very good cheap pickup. dampier is way overpaid for what he does.

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    Duncan owned Diop all series. Diop hung with a Duncan after Duncan played nearly a full game and was cramping up. That said Diop >>>>>> Dumpy. Nice pickup by the Mavs.

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    And who will pick up that dump? Daniels hasn't exactly made himself a hot commodity with his playoff performance? Dampier? Good luck.
    Daniels is a slasher who can get to the rim. Lots of teams would kill to have a young player like him. He can post up guys too with his size. His biggest weakness is that he doesn't seem to focus at times and bear down, but he only gets 10-15 minutes a night under Avery anyway. He makes $5 mil and I think he has 3 years left on his deal after this season. He's 25 or 26. If they want to move him, they won't have any trouble finding suitors for a guy who's shown lots of promise, even if he's far from a finished product.

    Dampier's a decent big man, an overpaid decent bigman. If the Mavs were able to move Juwan Howard's contract, they can move Dampiers.

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    You're right skanky. Any game Tim Duncan requires 5 IV bags after, Diop can hang with Tim.

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    You're right skanky. Any game Tim Duncan requires 5 IV bags after, Diop can hang with Tim.
    IV bags?

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    Daniels is a slasher who can get to the rim. Lots of teams would kill to have a young player like him. He can post up guys too with his size. His biggest weakness is that he doesn't seem to focus at times and bear down, but he only gets 10-15 minutes a night under Avery anyway. He makes $5 mil and I think he has 3 years left on his deal after this season. He's 25 or 26. If they want to move him, they won't have any trouble finding suitors for a guy who's shown lots of promise, even if he's far from a finished product.

    Dampier's a decent big man, an overpaid decent bigman. If the Mavs were able to move Juwan Howard's contract, they can move Dampiers.
    Daniels has 4 years and $26 million to go. This is for a guy who doesn't have much of a bball IQ and makes bad decisions on both ends of the court. Dampier has 5 years and $50 million to go and has been relegated to being a backup. Mavs can move them sure, for other bad contracts. That was the game Cuban played before, taking on worse contracts plus talent and picks. That was when he wanted to spend $100+ million and before Stern decided to put real bite in the luxury tax.

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    intravenous fluid. Duncan was totalled by the minutes and having the Dallas sumo wrestlers grabbing and holding him all night.

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    nevermind my earlier edit, mavs were at 96 mill in payroll this year. intravenous fluid, shank.

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    i think daniels would just need more playing time to quit making some of those decisions. he can get to the rim, and usually finishes well. but for whatever reason avery doesn't play him, and it shows when he does get minutes.

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    I know what IV bags are. Haven't heard a thing about Timmy needing 5 of them after a game.

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    I know what IV bags are. Haven't heard a thing about Timmy needing 5 of them after a game.
    he only had two, but he should have kept himself better hydrated anyway.

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    I thought they got terry just so they could wait tell their rookie draft PG could be proven. And the reason they let nash go was because he was to expansive and they had aquired a good PG in the draft to replace him. BUt now can anyone tell me whay mavs woudl NOT give the max to the MVP in NASH but will want to give it to terry, which i think was just a short term solution until pg in draft turned good.
    Cuban let Nash (who was a solid all-star but never in the MVP discussion while he was in Dallas) go because of concerns about durability. The significant difference between the Dallas offer and the Phoenix offer was an additional guaranteed year. And even then, Cuban miscalculated and never really thought Nash would sign with Phoenix without a few more rounds of negotiation and attempts to restructure the offer. On top of that, Cuban was concerned about the lack of flexibility having so much of the cap tied up in an aging Finley and Nash was going to cause. If he had known he was going to get the amnesty to wave Finley, he might well have been more willing to tie up money in Nash.

    Harris was drafted to be Nash's back-up and to train under him for 3 or 4 years before eventually taking over when Nash retired. Terry was a panic move once Nash was lost to keep from going into the season with nothing but a project rookie at the point.

    Its a panic move that's worked out, and there are no particular concerns about Terry's durability--either in terms of lasting out a post-season (Nash *always* wears down) or the length of his next contract. And while Cuban doesn't want to overspend anymore, he's still more than willing to pay for results. If Terry's the starter on a championship team this year, Cuban will take care of him.

    Dallas is unlikely to change much for next year. We'll lose our 3rd string center (Mbenga) and probably our back-up PF (Van Horn, unless he's willing to take an enormous pay cut to stay with a contender). And Marquis will be expendable in a trade if they can find one while they try to address 2 needs -- back-up PF and a 3-pt threat who can play some defense.

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    even with 15 mill off the books, they are still way over the cap - i think their payroll was 90 million this year, second only to the knicks. i guess we'll find out whether cubes was serious about being somewhat fiscally responsible. paying nearly the salary cap in luxury tax probably gets old after a while.
    Edit: sorry, the 90 mill was for 04-05. with finley's salary not counting, it was probably down a bit. but still pretty high.
    Well it will take awhile before you can see if Cuban was serious or not, they are still years in the hole from his overpaying days. Damp, Finley, Bradley, Eshmeyer (sp), Daniels. Oh, and plenty of teams will be interested in Daniels. At one point in time around here, Marquis Daniels was seen as someone with more potential than Josh Howard. But he just isn't someone who fits into AJ's style apparently.

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    It's not very often you lose your owner due gang raping by gorillas, but it's very possible.

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    Terry is going to get some big, long term offers. I imagine Cuban will suck it up and blow the salary cap to smithereens. Cuban claimed he was going to get fiscally responsible. We'll see.

    Maybe the Spurs should go after Mbenga. Put a little hurt on Marky's wallet.
    Good idea. I hope some team offers Terry some crazy bank.

    As for Mbenga, I've always loved his "raw" athleticism. He'd be a good project for a backup center.

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    Sourologist that was so funny!!!
    Are you a comedian by profession, or do you just have a gift for rich comedic material? You remind me of a young Lenny Bruce.

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    Diop ing sucks. DAMPIER is way better. Diop just had one good stretch against Duncan.
    Did you watch Game 3 last night? Diop kept Nash out of the paint and while Nash got some points, he didn't get them from the paint. Diop has gotten better at making baskets if he's fed the ball in the paint. Of course, when you compare Diop to Duncan there's not really a comparison but most teams don't have a Duncan. You have to remember, Diop is only 24, he's still developing his skills and spent lots of time sitting on the bench in Cleveland before Dallas picked him up and utilized him.

    KVH can go and I think Marquis will be traded away, not that I have much against him, he just doesn't fit in right now and JHo has eclipsed him. I can see giving up KVH, Marquis, Powell and maybe Marshall but that's it.

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