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Communism is broken because it has only really been attempted on a grand scale. A smaller place with more specific and uniform needs, such as a city, would have a much more successful experience. The ideals of communism become harder and harder to use the more people you have to deal with.
If you had paid attention, you would have noticed I suggested a coalition of basically city-state communisms instead of a communist nation.
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That depends on how you define 'successful'. However, if you can imagine the FEDs going broke and the dollar crashing, I think communal living and bartering skills and food will be a way for people to survive.A smaller place with more specific and uniform needs, such as a city, would have a much more successful experience
So, you are calling yourself an idiot ....
Okay with me.
Karl Marx wasnt a bad guy with a bad idea. He was misinterpreted so many different times, it made his ideals look evil.
When he first wrote his thoughts of a communist government, one thing he always specified was that it would only work in country's that had already tried some form of capitalism. He actually used America as his ideal society for its implementation.
Not saying we should. Just trying to relate some of what Marx really tried to accomplish because Hitler, Stalin and Mousilinni werent true followers of his ideology.
Ever heard about the Pilgrims. Didn't work for them either.
They started out as a commune.
Any you too if you voted. And yes, we are the government.
Don't tell me you honestly think anything in todays society is comparable to society 300 years ago...
No, but obviously you do. You said it would work in a
small society. I am just pointing out that it had been
tried in a small society. I have no idea how old you are
but, that big three letter word, so long as all people are trying
to pull the same wagon and you got that one dude who wont
pull his share, it ant gonna work. The rest aren't going to
pull with him sitting on his butt. Those pulling want a larger
share of the load on the wagon. It's a fact. Like it or not.
You're the one comparing. "If a vaguely related form of it (ancestral form granted) didn't work to perfection 300 or more years ago, it can't work now"
There is no comparison between the two. Today there is a much greater ability to bring in the necessary components to maintain a community. It is less reliant, and would be even in a communistic environment, on manual labor meaning a greater percentage of the populace can contribute. Environmental hazards are less damaging, which means one bad season can't destroy a community.
Like I said, saying it didn't work in colonial times means it wouldn't work today is absurd.
Okay, what are the necessary "components". I work sweeping floors, a necessary
chore, and needed. But I want a Lexus just like the guy I sweep the floor for that
does the computer programming. I pick the tomatoes for the guy that does the
computer programming so I want one of those Lexus too. Okay, I am reaching, but
how about a really nice house like that guy has. But, but, but, the guy that does
the computer programming studied for 16-18 years and I dropped out of school in
my freshman year. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I am a doctor and I studied for about
10 years after finishing college to learn how to do my speciality. But yeah, I work
hard all day long doing yards so he can have a nice yard. But I cant find a job
and don't wont to work at doing yard labor or picking tomatoes or washing dishes
and after all it isn't my fault I am stupid. Do you get the drift. I thought not.
You get what you work for. Pure, simple and true. Everyone cant own a Lexus,
everyone cant own a reallly nice home, everyone cant have all the things they
want unless they want to put out the effort and time it takes to earn those things.
Hate to break the news to you, but life is just not fair. That's the way it is. You
don't believe me. Watch a cat eat a squirrel. That's life. Quit believing in fairy
tales. Communism does not work in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Been tried
and failed.
Obviously you don't understand the basic tenets of Marxism. No wonder you don't understand what I've been saying.
Communisims true weakness is it's inability to motivate selfish people to work harder for the benefit of society and increase productivity. So, even the Chinese have added a capitalist/market element. However, I agree with you that when the FEDS go broke, you'll see government return more to the local and community level. A kind of city-state.Communism is broken because it has only really been attempted on a grand scale. A smaller place with more specific and uniform needs, such as a city, would have a much more successful experience. The ideals of communism become harder and harder to use the more people you have to deal with.
If you had paid attention, you would have noticed I suggested a coalition of basically city-state communisms instead of a communist nation.
Depends on how you look at it. The initial communes didn't survive very well because they had no capability to deal with environmental factors. The Pilgrims really started booming when overseas trade became viable.
Of course, it's not like the Pilgrim communes are even remotely comparable to modern Marxism.
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