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    but I believe that if Tayshaun says he wants to play with the Spurs ... if Pop goes after him real hard... then there's nothing the pistons can do about it but to trade him ...
    Well , by that logic, why settle for Tayshaun Prince? Go convince LeBron James that he really wants to play with the Spurs, and have Pop go after him real hard. Clearly, then Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him. It's foolproof. We Spurs fans are geniuses.

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    So lose roughly $50 million of multiyear deals for nothing and sign a player who has already signed a long-term extension.

    I've got our GM on the line right now....


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    I think Joe Dumars would have no problem trading Tayshaun Prince for Fabrico Oberto and Beno Udrih. He would probably even throw in Orlando's first round pick for next year. But, if Dumars gives up Rip Hamilton in that trade as well, that might be too much.

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    Thread starter! If you look at hoopshype.com and see that after Tayshaun's 05/06 salary, it's just a white line through the 10/11 season, that means that the player has signed a contract through tthat season, but it's not known how much each season.

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    Tyson Chandler? NO!!!! He's way overrated. As for Tayshaun Prince I doubt if Joe D. trades him.

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    Here's my perfect off-season for the Spurs.

    1) Get rid of these people/contracts : Rasho (costs too much), Barry (weak defender), Van Exel (I hope I don't have to explain this one), Nazr, Oberto (too weak for the NBA), Horry (gettin old), Beno (same as Oberto, not athletic enough to play his position in the NBA) ... This will free a total of 25,8 million dollars

    2) Sign free agent Tayshaun Prince ( this guy is so underrated and he's the perfect choice for replacing Bowen ... he's a great defender , a great rebounder and a great shot-blocker and only 27... need I say more?) ... I think if we give him 10 millions dollars a year he will accept ... anyways I don't think he's going to get more than that from Detroit and he's not that happy in Detroit neither is Ben or Chauncey right now... so 25.8 - 10 leaves us with 15.8 millions

    3) Acquire Tyson Chandler from the Chicago Bulls through either sign&trade (Nazr) or a 3-way, 4-way, 5-way-deal. I don't care what it takes to get Tayshaun and Chandler here ... they are perfect for us ... with them we will win many championships. Don't forget we got rid of half of our roster ( 25.8 million dollars) so we can get them here. Chicago aren't that happy with Chandler's production.

    4) Bring in Luis Scola ( He's the best player in Europe right now... the last 2 guys that were considered as the best in Europe before joinning the NBA were Predrag Stojakovic and Dirk Nowitzki and look how they've done in the NBA). We can give him up to 4 millions a year ( which is a great boost from what he was earnning in Europe) but I don't think he will get above 3.5 millions.

    5) fill up the roster with cheap guys like Javtokas or veterans who will take the minimum to get a chance at the le

    Now that's what I would try to do AT ALL COST if I were Pop/Holt. That's what I think would be the ''realistical'' perfect off-season for the Spurs.

    Some of the pistons aren't happy right now ( including Tayshaun ). And I don't care if they haven't went public with it or not ... of course they won't go public with it cuz then u're considered an ass and u don't get as big contracts... just look at their facial expressions during time-outs, interviews, etc... look in their eyes and u will see how happy they really are in Detroit ( I'm not saying they're sad in Detroit ... I'm just saying that they will explore the market before taking their decision and that migh lead them elsewhere cuz I sincerely don't believe that Detroit has enough cash and good arguments to keep Big Ben and Tayshaun this year and then get to keep Chauncey the next year... one of them will go and I believe it will be either Ben ( not happy with Flip's system cuz he's a defensive-minded player ) or Prince ( he will get great offers that Pistons won't be able to match if they intend to keep Ben and Chauncey) ... If the Pistons pull this off they will be incredibly good for the years to come but I doubt it.

    Tayshaun would be perfect for us cuz he is a match-up nightmare at both ends of the floor. He would come cheap since he might not even get 10 million and he's worth more ( Yeah I said it). He will get great offers but he is still underrated so he still won't get what he really deserves. He and Chandler would solve our rebounding problems.

    Just imagine this frontcourt :

    SF - Tayshaun Prince ( Awesome defender, great rebounder and shot-blocker, has good potential)
    PF - Tim Duncan ( Awesome defender, great rebounder and awesome shot-blocker, entering his prime)
    C - Tyson Chandler ( Great defender, awesome rebounder and good shot-blocker, has awesome potential)

    You think someone can score against that type of shot-blocking? and then hope to get a second chance basket? No way.

    This is what our rotation would look like come playoff time:

    Parker
    Ginobili
    Tayshaun
    TD
    Chandler

    Bench: Bowen, Finley, Scola + a backup pg who just needs to know how to cross the court without turning over the ball and then giving the ball into someone else's (ginobili's, finley's, tayshaun's, bowen's, Tim's) hands + another frontcourt player ( a veteran signed for the minimum or Javtokas).

    With that line-up we are unstoppable.

    Can u say 3-peat?

    Now the real question is whether this is possible or not, I believe it's unlikely it will happen but I think it's possible and I would go for it no matter the cost if I was Pop.

    So what do you guys think am I crazy or not?
    First off, Tayshaun Prince isn't a free agent. Second, even if he was we would not sign him because then he would replace Bruce Bowen and no way that's gonna happen. Third, getting Tyson Chandler isn't that easy and if we can get him it's gonna take more than just Nazr and if you want a three-way trade you could at least say who would be the third and the players. Fourth, Robertas Javtokas is not cheap. In my opinion, he's even better than Luis Scola. Last, if you wanna get rid of all those people, even thought I think we should keep Horry and Beno, tell us HOW! And by the way, you are crazy.

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    I think Joe Dumars would have no problem trading Tayshaun Prince for Fabrico Oberto and Beno Udrih. He would probably even throw in Orlando's first round pick for next year. But, if Dumars gives up Rip Hamilton in that trade as well, that might be too much.
    Totally!

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    well if what u say is true ''FromWayDownTown'' then u're right. I didn't know he signed an extension I though it would have said it on hoopshype.com ... but I believe that if Tayshaun says he wants to play with the Spurs ... if Pop goes after him real hard... then there's nothing the pistons can do about it but to trade him ... and why would they allow the spurs to get stronger? so they can get some trading material inr eturn ( something they can trade /..r.asho, berry, etc are worth something to some teams) and even if they refuse to give us tayshaun ( that's always if he's willing to play with the spurs cuz I don't believe he's happy under this new Flip offensive regime) then they will have to trade him somewhere else where we could get him .
    You're dreamin'.

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    Here is what I realistically think will happen this offseason...

    1. Nazr will leave.
    2. Barry will be traded for JR Smith and Arvydas Macijauskas.
    3. Javtokas will be brought over.
    4. The Spurs will trade Scola for a pick in the first round and draft a SF OR they will package a deal of Udrih + Rasho + Scola's rights to perhaps Chicago for Luol Deng or another team. (This one may not be as realistic)
    5. The Spurs will sign Bobby Jackson for the vet minimum

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