Tim Thomas is a BAD man
Get this done, Phoenix. Shut up Cuban.
With the money they spent on Michael Finley, who's three inches taller and many times the defender that Evans is (not to mention much, much, much better offensively)? They made the best choice they could.
Tim Thomas would probably be a good fit with San Antonio next year, particularly if Horry continues his downward slide. He's definitely a "long 3", and he can play decent defense every now and then.
Yeah...Tim Thomas was obviously the missing link in this years Spurs le quest.
I don't think the mavs are exactly stopping him. No one person will get you a ring. That's why it's called a hypothetical. Comprender?Yeah...Tim Thomas was obviously the missing link in this years Spurs le quest.
What does the Mavs stopping him have anything to do with the point of this post? I'm pretty sure I never said Tim Thomas is a terrible player. I simply laughed at the absurd notion that his presence on the Spurs roster would have ensured a trip to the Finals.
Pretty funny how you try to start an argument with me over nothing, though.
If you watched the same series I did, maybe you noticed it was actually kind of close.Yeah...Tim Thomas was obviously the missing link in this years Spurs le quest.
We were playing Finley at the 4 in order to try to match up, but Thomas has 3 inches on him and is a better rebounder. Let Finley come off the bench, have Barry back up Parker, and park NVE on the bench, and that could easily have been the difference.
We'll never know of course, and it doesn't really change anything, but it's the kind of thing we're prone to think about when we try to assemble a team to take your asses down next year.
It's quite suspect to assume that Tim Thomas would have made any difference on a Spurs team built like it was.
Besides, I'd take Finley as a starter over him 7 days a week, and not just because Finley used to be a Mav. It's really not even close.
o. Remember. We played against the mavs, right? Right now Thomas is playing against the mavs and playing well. Put two and two together.
Understandable. But you guys killed us on the boards. Thomas likely would have helped with that.
As I said, we'll never know.
Yeah, that's obviously the same. I hear the Spurs and the Suns play pretty similar styles and have pretty similar personnel
Plus, given the undeniable fact that Thomas has been equally good on all the other teams he's played for before the Suns, you clearly have a worthwhile point that he would have been a difference-maker for the Spurs so much so that they walk right into the NBA finals.
...Seriously, you need to quit being so damn desperate to try and prove me wrong about anything and everything you can find.
Excellent use of emoticoms DubMcDub. Really helps you make your argument. Fact is Spurs were essentially going with six players. Check the number of minutes logged by the starters and Finley in game seven. They also were getting very little scoring off the bench. If you don't think Thomas and his length, defense, rebounding, scoring wouldn't have likely tipped the scales in a sereis where all but one game was essentially decided by one point you better find an emoticom for "gee I'm dumb". I guess you just figure the Mavs were just plain invincible.
you can just call me the troll eradicator.Yeah, that's obviously the same. I hear the Spurs and the Suns play pretty similar styles and have pretty similar personnel
Plus, given the undeniable fact that Thomas has been equally good on all the other teams he's played for before the Suns, you clearly have a worthwhile point that he would have been a difference-maker for the Spurs so much so that they walk right into the NBA finals.
...Seriously, you need to quit being so damn desperate to try and prove me wrong about anything and everything you can find.
FIN would have started against the mavs and manu would have come off the bench. He would clearly have the open shots. He's hot in the playoffs, plain and simple.
No. Just no.
I figure the Mavs were a better team than the Spurs and a scrub-ass spare like Tim Thomas (no I'm not impressed by his 26 points in a 16 point loss for his team) wouldn't have made a difference.
Thomas is a piece of and he's incredibly overrated. Throw some more numbers around though--he's definitely not a product of the Suns system at all.
Tim Thomas is a tool, albeit a talented one. He can help your team if:
1) you don't over pay him.
2) he isn't option one or two.
He's kind of like an immature Lamar Odom. I can't believe he's still pulling like walking thru other team's huddles.
I don't buy that Tim Thomas would have guaranteed a trip to the Finals.
I'm pretty sure, though, that a backup point guard who could contribute more than 1.1 ppg, 1.3 apg in 10 minutes per game would have.
Actually that scrubass is averaging over 16 PPG on .528 shooting against your invincible team, .577 from the three point line. Mavs' fans have gotten incredibly y in a hurry. Shouldn't they win at least one le before you act like annoit them the greatest?
The point is, though, that the Suns system makes those opportunities for him. I'd be skeptical that the Spurs system would do the same, and I doubt that Popovich would have dramatically altered things just to accommodate Tim Thomas.
Might Thomas have helped the Spurs? Sure, it's possible. But he also might have hurt more -- he might have deprived Manu, Parker, and Finley of shots that they made and Thomas might have missed. I don't think you can assume that his numbers would be the same if he had come here -- if you could, there'd be no rational explanation for why Thomas isn't a max player and why he wasn't in greater demand after he was released (if you could explain why he was released in the first place).
Thomas is a spot up three point shooter who can shoot pretty much around the perimeter, top of key or side, particularly top of key. Spurs do pretty well on getting shots for spot up shooters. Horry his supposed conterpart on the Spurs shot .250 and .143 from the 3 against the Mavs and by his own admission is no longer quick enough to play small ball. That was the Spurs greatest failing, counting on having a small ball lineup with Horry as their second big when he could no longer get it done. Second greatest failing, but much further down the line, was having to count on Nick the Quicksand as a backup PG.
Thomas was released because they wanted to develop Deng nad Nocionni and didn't want around a disgruntled Thomas who was not getting playing time in a contract year.
Welcome to Dallas, TX, the city that thinks it's too good for the rest of the state of Texas.Mavs' fans have gotten incredibly y in a hurry. Shouldn't they win at least one le before you act like annoit them the greatest?
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