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Poor Nbadan, another hero of his no longer with us.
....yeah, but we've turned another corner in Iraq..
Bush: Zarqawi death may 'turn the tide' in Iraq
Turkish PressWASHINGTON - Under pressure to show progress in Iraq, US President George W. Bush on Thursday hailed the killing of Al-Qaeda's leader there, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, as a chance to "turn the tide" of the conflict.
Bush also welcomed the long-awaited completion of Iraq's new government and said he would discuss the future of the US presence there with top US military and diplomatic aides and the Baghdad leadership on Tuesday.
"Zarqawi's death is a severe blow to Al-Qaeda. It's a victory in the global war on terror, and it is an opportunity for Iraq's new government to turn the tide of this struggle," he said in the White House Rose Garden.
The president praised US forces who, acting on intelligence tips from Iraqis, "delivered justice" to Zarqawi in the most dramatic US operation since Saddam Hussein's capture in December 2003.
OH well,
MSNBCBut NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself — but never pulled the trigger.
In June 2002, U.S. officials say intelligence had revealed that Zarqawi and members of al-Qaida had set up a weapons lab at Kirma, in northern Iraq, producing deadly ricin and cyanide.
The Pentagon quickly drafted plans to attack the camp with cruise missiles and airstrikes and sent it to the White House, where, according to U.S. government sources, the plan was debated to death in the National Security Council.
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The Pentagon drew up a second strike plan, and the White House again killed it. By then the administration had set its course for war with Iraq.
“People were more obsessed with developing the coalition to overthrow Saddam than to execute the president’s policy of preemption against terrorists,” according to terrorism expert and former National Security Council member Roger Cressey.
In January 2003, the threat turned real. Police in London arrested six terror suspects and discovered a ricin lab connected to the camp in Iraq.
The Pentagon drew up still another attack plan, and for the third time, the National Security Council killed it.
Poor Nbadan, another hero of his no longer with us.
Nice framed pic of a corpse
No psy-ops here
Well...there you go again.
This is the same Ann Coultergiest and Sean insHannity crap that I get tired of hearing!Any liberal or any person that does thinks that way is not my kind of person.
I think it is great news for the war on terror and even Bush acknowledges that this will NOT end terrorsim or future attacks in Iraq. It just isn't so. But it is a blow to Al Queda.
Now let's move on!!!
Semper Fi!!
It's good that the political rhetoric in this country has reached a level where even something like this can be devisive.
This is a biggie no matter how much the Nbadan's of the world try to minimalize it. Very good news for our soldiers in harms way. This guy had been built up into an Icon of sorts, and he was a master at rallying people around his cause. They can "72 virgin" him all they want, but they know damn well that he's dead as a door nail and they're not far behind him. It's being reported that he was turned in by one of his top brass. Hopefully that leads to a power struggle. Let them thin out their own ranks for a while instead of lopping off the heads of innocent Iraqis.
This is great, except that Al-Zarqawi has been dead for years.
And Dan, who steps up to take the reigns in Iraq? This guy was the motivational leader of the jihad. He had all that street cred about how God was protecting him from the infidels, and then we sniped his ass.
You are one pathetic son of a .
Same old right wing/red-state/rabble .
You people are so ing stupid and dishonest, it's repugnant.
People who are against the war and want th Repugs out of power do NOT support the enemy.
And those same people may or may not be liberals, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Is that too ing complicated for you cretins to understand?
Of course it isn't too complicated (except for XZ, GT, vashner), and that's where your dishonesty is on display.
We know this is a sad day for you buttons, but please try to control your anger.
Piss off head. You come on here all the ing time with your shrub/ head bull . And you want to lecture about stupidity and honesty? Look in the mirror, pal.Same old right wing/red-state/rabble .
You people are so ing stupid and dishonest, it's repugnant.
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We're not talking about people who are against the war. We're talking about people like you and Dan who cry out for a day of mourning every time a jihadiist gets his virgins.People who are against the war and want th Repugs out of power do NOT support the enemy.
To tell you the truth, I'm pretty much 100% centrist/libertarian. Both parties (red and blue) are sucking and don't represent the views of the majority of this country. Which is sad, but has been a long time in the making.And those same people may or may not be liberals, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Unfortunately, until that time comes when a third party can rise up and challenge the current parties of power, we're stuck choosing the lesser of two evils.
And all things being equal, the Republican party is the lesser of two evils, for a number of reasons IMO, I don't have much time but here's two...
Democrats want to ban firearms from anywhere and everywhere they can. It's a ing cons utional right for me, as an American, to bear arms. Yet they want to take that away. There's legislation in the UN to ban firearms WORLDWIDE.
The US is infinitely more likely to go along with that bull legislation with folks like Hillary in charge than anyone you'll ever see with an R next to their names.
And second is the whole socialist movement among the left. They want everyone taken care of in this country, and it all to be on the taxpayers' dime. that. Socialism has never worked in world history, and it won't work here in America. All this universal health care , Medicare, Medicaid, Social security, it's all a ing mess and albatross to the citizens of this country.
And all the Dems want to do is expand that. ing no.
Maybe one day when you graduate high school, go out and do some real learning in college and the real world, your perspective will change.Is that too ing complicated for you cretins to understand?
I remember how ignorant I was about the world in HS as well, a lot's changed since then. Hopefully it will for you too, because you've got way too much hatred coarsing through those veins of yours.
if you saw the movie muinch you would see that after killing 7 of their intended 11 targets all they accomplished was replacing the leadership with more radical leadership.
"People who are against the war and want th Repugs out of power do NOT support the enemy."
Well who do you support, boutons?
"Of course it isn't too complicated (except for XZ, GT, vashner), and that's where your dishonesty is on display."
The problem is we do understand people like you. And it
bothers the out of you. Nothing dishonest about
calling a liberal a liberal. Cause that is what you are and
will sacrifice your country, your military and your soul to
regain power.
Why did they frame that big ass picture
Don't stop with the frame, let's have T-shirts!
With al-Zarqawi's death, Democrats are scrambling to find a new running mate for Osama bin Laden in '08.
I never got how just because Demos are against Bush they are automatically with the terrorists. I think Hardcore Left/Right wingers are stupid and that Bush is a moron, what does that make me.
CNN is pathetic.
Bush said it himself, "Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists." And by "us," he meant "me and my neocon buddies." So either you're a neocon or you're a terrorist. That's just the way it has to be in the post-9/11 world.
Let's confuse the lines of which side we are all on one more time..
CounterPunchUPDATE: It looks like the Twits might not get that reward money after all. Prime Minister Maliki said that those who helped locate Zarqawi, or someone just like him, in Hibhib, would get their reward later: "We believe in honoring our commitments." However, the (London) Times' man in Iraq, Ned Parker, tells us that Zazqawi might have been shopped to the Americans by Iraqi insurgents:
"One of the most interesting things about the news of his death is the timing. There have been talks going on since the election last December by US and Iraqi officials to try to bring the homegrown insurgency back into the political process. Certainly there was tension between the homegrown Iraqi insurgency and Zarqawi's foreign fighters. So it's possible a deal was finally cut by some branch of the Iraqi insurgency to eliminate al-Zarqawi and rid themselves of his heavy-handed influence."
So if Bush does decide to pay off the informants -- and it's his money, after all, not Maliki's; in fact, in today's Iraq, any money that Maliki's government might still have left after three years of occupation rapine is Bush's money too -- but if Zarqawi's rumblers are paid off, then it's likely that Bush will be forking over $25 million to Iraq's Sunni insurgents. That will certainly keep them flush with IEDs for a long time to come. It's FUBAR every which way you turn in Bush's Babylon.
"Adios, Mofo."
The truth is already starting to leak out...
Disbelief in Iraqi hamlet where Zarqawi was killed
Washington PostHIBHIB, Iraq (Reuters) - Standing on rubble left by the U.S. air raid that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqis in the village of Hibhib expressed disbelief on Thursday that the al Qaeda leader had been living among them.
"I don't know anything about Abu Musab or anyone else being here," said a teenager who declined to give his name, inspecting blankets amid crushed concrete.
"The Americans have a habit of bombing places and then claiming Zarqawi or others were there."
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"Zarqawi. Zarqawi. Zarqawi. That's all we hear about. Zarqawi was not here. This home belonged to displaced people," said a village resident, holding up a teddy bear and a child's knapsack buried in the destruction.
You know, for a skeptic, Dan, you sure do miss some softballs.This home belonged to displaced people," said a village resident, holding up a teddy bear and a child's knapsack buried in the destruction.
Denial is one of the early stages of grief.
Don't fret, Dan, there are still plenty of insurgents left to kill U.S. servicemen. Within a day or so, you'll have another report of U.S. troop deaths to lift your spirits.
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