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The beauty of arguing with you about this...I know weren't too young to have missed all of AJ's mid 90's 4th quarter shooting performances.
However hard he worked...it wasn't hard enough.
It was answered, about 3 years ago...Hedo layup drill.
The beauty of arguing with you about this...I know weren't too young to have missed all of AJ's mid 90's 4th quarter shooting performances.
However hard he worked...it wasn't hard enough.
Still waiting for an actual answer to the question.
Beno won more championships than Stockton therefore Beno>Stockton
I remember going to a game when I was about 11 years old. And there was this 5 year old girl behind me screaming "Go AJJJJJJ!!!!" the entire ing game. Nevermind the fact that AJ wasn't that great and the Mavs beat us this year, I hate AJ for having his stupid named screamed in my ear for 4 quarters on what is very easily in the top 10 most annoying times in JT's life.
Whott it utterly amazes me how you figure that because AJ was an average PG makes him less of a player. There are a bunch of guys who are in the league to this day that can't hit a jumper, can't defend a pick and roll situation if you walked them through it or even hit the basic free throw...something four year olds do on their play rims from Playskool.
The article had nothing to do with his playing career in its entirity. It was about what he had done AFTER his playing days and the type of at ude that he instills in the players he's coaching now.
I know reading comprehension is a problem in our school systems but grown people should be able to read and comprehend articles without putting unnecessary biasness into their points of view. The drive that allowed AJ to beat alcoholism early in his playing days, to be a better husband and father, is the same drive that allowed him to become best friends with DRob and it's the very reason why #6 is going into the rafters.
Whether you like or dislike him as a Spur, the bottom line is that when many players had a chance to make a mark in this city, they rarely did. AJ left a legacy in this city and he's building a legacy in Dallas. That's something Michael has never done....AS A PERSON.
Oh and again, if you read the article without those tinted glasses, I mentioned how many players cannot become coaches and that it took a select breed to do so. Jordan was lousy in the front office at Washington. Johnson couldn't handle the crap taht went on with Nick Van Exel, Cedric Ceballos and others because he wasn't use to dealing with guys who were professionals. You have to have a temperment to be a coach and you need a I'm gonna kick ur ass at ude to handle players. That's why you see guys like Nate McMillan, Maurice Cheeks, Doc Rivers, AJ, Pat Riley, Phil and a few others who have either moderate to great success. Most of your successful coaches who were former players, were mediocre to above average players in the league.
Ms. Paxton AJ donated $600k of his own money as seed money into the project. He didn't raise the full amount but helped by having his name being used as the chair to fund about another $400k. The church is making payments on loans for the rest of it and the sports complex is a part of the Eastside community initiative. The area around Antioch is crime riddend and drug infested. Wheatley Courts is right up the street and Sutton Homes isn't that much further. The area that taht church serves is always in the news sometime during the week.
And to say that coaching doesn't seem to be his forte is so ambiguitous. A first year head coach, a coach of the year winner, has the opportunity to make NBA history and you say it is not his forte? I don't follow. Dallas is that good of a team because AJ, along with his coaching staff, has changed the mindset of the team. Don Nelson, as good of a coach as he is and probably a Hall of Fame candidate one day, has never had any of his teams in an NBA Finals and here you have your successor getting the job done in one season when many thought it would take at least two or three.
Again I scratch my head at some of the logic that's used up here sometimes. There's so much dislike for AJ now it's unbelievable and I shudder to think what would happen if Malik, Devin, Tim, Tony, Manu or some other Spurs favorite decides to do something that Spurs fans don't like.
That's why you see guys like Nate McMillan, Maurice Cheeks, Doc Rivers, AJ, Pat Riley, Phil and a few others who have either moderate to great success. Most of your successful coaches who were former players, were mediocre to above average players in the league.
Hey...if you'd said other successful players like Scott Skiles and Doc Rivers haven't gone on to the coaching success that AJ has...I wouldn't have had any problem with the article.
It's still pushing it to put AJ in Skiles and Rivers' league as a player...
...but at least it doesn't make me spit coffe through my nose seeing his name alongside theirs in a sentence with the word players.
We'll overlook him being just put in the same sentence as, especially Maurice Cheeks, and Nate McMillian for now...
I know the point being made, but the fact that he was just casually thrown in there in a list of former "players" with Magic and Jordan was ridiculous.
It implied a peer relationship with Jordan and Magic,...those two had no peer and if they did it damn sure wasn't a Avery Johnson. Typical of the way AJ homers are always trying subtley to up his status as a player and make him seem to be more than he was...that BS has gone far enough in SA and I will continue to be the watchdog and voice of reason against rabid AJism.
Oh Jordan hasn't formed a community relationship, this is true, but Jordan was held captive by the media for his career...can't say I really blame him for his standoffish disposition.
if you're going to be a watchdog, get your facts straight. MJ wasn't held captive by anyone. He understood his role as a player and as a businessman. David Faulk, MJ's agent, made sure that Jordan realized that he had media obligations and the few things that Jordan has done in Chi-town are what he wanted to do. Now are they on the level of what DRob and AJ did here in SA? of course not. Jordan is a businessman.
And as far as you trying to rid this city of AJism, as a guy who covered AJ both on and off the court, I'll fight you tooth and nail to keep his name in the public eye as a positive role model in this city because as a whole, this community needs to know that guys like AJ and DRob thought more of the citizenry than just a paycheck.
A true watchdog would want to champion somebody like AJ because he was ordinary. This city doesn't have many true guys that people can feel connected to and it's asinine to think that you're doing all of us a favor by trying to rid this city of a memory and/or person who helped put this 'town' on the map.
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Here's a blast from the past about Saint AJ...
Johnson situation could spell trouble for Spurs
By Mike Monroe
Special to ESPN.com
Naturally, San Antonio's biggest worry of the moment is Tim Duncan's lower abdominal strain, which cost him five games and goes a long way toward explaining the Spurs' recent problems on the floor.
But the Spurs also are finding their locker room chemistry, so vital in their championship run last season, has gotten shaky.
At the center of recent controversy: Point guard Avery Johnson, of all people.
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has benched Johnson in the fourth quarter of some games over the last month, and Johnson isn't happy about watching Terry Porter or Antonio Daniels finishing games. Emotions boiled over after a Feb. 15 loss at Cleveland in which Johnson once again sat much of crunch time. Here's what happened, according to reliable witnesses.
Johnson complained in the locker room after the Cleveland game that he wasn't getting the respect he deserved. Some of other players, according to a source who spoke with the San Antonio Express News, viewed Johnson's outburst as selfish. Johnson then went after Malik Rose in the locker room.
There was talk that Johnson threw a punch -- both he and Popovich vehemently deny that -- but some of the players confided, anonymously, that Rose, who was standing in his socks, slipped trying to get away from Johnson. Porter then jumped on Rose when he tried to get back up and go after him. Keep in mind that all of the players had just exited the shower and were in various states of undress.
The scene -- described by one player as resembling a Roman orgy -- :roflmao ended up with Rose being held down by a couple of players.
Whether or not the incident was a factor, the Spurs subsequently tried to move Johnson just before the trade deadline. They discussed a deal for Clippers guard Derek Anderson that also would have involved Jaren Jackson, but the Clips weren't interested.
They then tried to swap Johnson for Charlotte's David Wesley.
What such trade talk engendered is a team leader who feels betrayed by the man whose job he helped to save last season.
Publicly, Johnson is saying the right things, such as: "Everybody I think has been mentioned in trades (during) their career. Whether it comes out in the media or it was behind the scenes, talk is always going to be out there. The main thing is I'm focused on winning a championship this year. That's where my focus is."
Privately, however, AJ is hurt. Make that very angry and hurt. Betrayed may be more like it. He has been Popovich's most trusted player since Popovich brought him back to the franchise in 1994. He also saved Popovich's career last season when the team started 6-8 and some of the players thought a coaching change was in order. Johnson publicly backed Popovich while holding together the locker room.
Johnson is one of the most intense compe ors in the game, a player who has overcome his own shortcomings (no pun intended) to become a key contributor on a championship team. That he should be the focus of controversy in San Antonio just proves how fragile championship chemistry really is.
Sorry...if AJ were anything like you and Harris purported him to be, I wouldn't be near as anti-aj as I am.
But the simple fact of the matter is, he isn't like ya'l portray him to be. His comments in the media bear this out time and time again, and as soon as people start judging his comments and actions based on their own merit and without the AJ mafia's intepretation of them....SA and Spurs fans get barraged with fluff pieces talking about what a great guy he is, how under-rated he was, and where his jersey deserves to hang.
He isn't, he wasn't, he's not. He wasn't a great player, he was a lousy player, definitely the worst to ever start for an NBA champion. His career is testament to his good fortune in nutriding, not 1, but 2, of the greatest bigmen to ever play the game, and still underachieving...and AJ and his mafia, think it was all because of him. They've pretty much brainwashed SA into believing this as well, when in fact, it was inspite of him.
I won't bad mouth his public service, nor will I deride his very, long apparent skill as a coach...but I will never stop pointing out that he wasn't a good player and he isn't a MR. Nice Guy either. And if you've covered his whole career then you know his well do ented past issues and cancerous actions with the team...and still you do nothing but apologize for his actions. This does not make me reconsider my AJ stance...only your objectivity. IF he were what you claim he is...he wouldn't need an army of apologists to come to dig him out of holes every time his mouth digs him into them.
I will continue to deconstruct the attempts overinflate his skill as a player and rep as a nice guy.
Just keeping it real
Last edited by whottt; 06-13-2006 at 08:10 AM.
Whott I don't apologize for his actions. I never said he was a great basketball player. But what amazes me is that if I gave you the chance to go one on one with a so-called average NBA player, you'd probably fail. Getting into the NBA doesn't make you average by anybody's means who has played sports at a high level. I remember getting a phone call from Samaki when AJ and Malik got into it on the road. I had the story two days before Ludden did. And I ripped AJ for it. I've ripped him in person for things in the past. I told him about Cassandra's actions when they happened.http://ad.family.go.com/premium/nba/...oe/406574.html
Here's a blast from the past about Saint AJ...
Sorry...if AJ were anything like you and Harris purported him to be, I wouldn't be near as anti-aj as I am.
But the simple fact of the matter is, he isn't like ya'l portray him to be. His comments in the media bear this out time and time again, and as soon as people start judging his comments and actions based on their own merit and without the AJ mafia's intepretation of them....SA and Spurs fans get barraged with fluff pieces talking about what a great guy he is, how under-rated he was, and where his jersey deserves to hang.
He isn't, he wasn't, he's not. He wasn't a great player, he was a lousy player, definitely the worst to ever start for an NBA champion. His career is testament to his good fortune in nutriding, not 1, but 2, of the greatest bigmen to ever play the game, and still underachieving...and AJ and his mafia, think it was all because of him. They've pretty much brainwashed SA into believing this as well, when in fact, it was inspite of him.
I won't bad mouth his public service, nor will I deride his very, long apparent skill as a coach...but I will never stop pointing out that he wasn't a good player and he isn't a MR. Nice Guy either. And if you've covered his whole career then you know his well do ented past issues and cancerous actions with the team...and still you do nothing but apologize for his actions. This does not make me reconsider my AJ stance...only your objectivity. IF he were what you claim he is...he wouldn't need an army of apologists to come to dig him out of holes every time his mouth digs him into them.
I will continue to deconstruct the attempts overinflate his skill as a player and rep as a nice guy.
Just keeping it real
His rep as a nice guy is that...he is a nice guy. What goes on in the job has nothing to do with how you conduct yourself outside of it. I'm a raiser at work but away from the clock, I'm generous as I can afford to be. I give back from my job because I made a former sportscaster a promise that if I ever got the chance to give back and REACH back, I would.
Just to show you what I mean by nice, AJ was a part of building a basketball court at the Scott Davis YMCA and Pop was in attendance. That's how the idea for the sports complex came to being.
it's not my job to try and convince you on his playing ability but I definitely will question your reading comprehension on this story. If you're gonna be a watchdog, then you will have to be able to debate the exact facts of a topic.
And I'm just keeping it real brah
AJ will be the only First Year coach to win an NBA Championship.
That's really all I need to know he's a great coach, the fact he won a Championship with San Antonio is just gravy.
Here's a question:
When will the Spurs retire his jersey, after he leaves the Mavs or while he's still coaching?
nbascribe, thank you for answering my question about AJ's personal financial contributions.
However, about the coaching, if you'll look at my post that you quoted again, you'll see that I specifically said coaching did seem to be AJ's forte, not that it did not.
i agree, 2k dre.
Pop described AJ as being a coach on the floor, IIRC. How right he was. I don't know what AJ did to whottt, but it must've hurt real bad.
Sure, there are true Spurs fans and SA citizens who don't like the Mavs, never have, or they've just discounted them all these years. And rightfully so. They definitely don't like Cuban, and are equally annoyed with Flip for coaching the Pistons the way he did the Wolves. But how can people not be truly happy for AJ and Joe Prunty? Two of the nicest guys ever who gave their all to this franchise and city for years?
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