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    The good thing about the US is there's always a choice. Psychiatric mental help is always an option. Please use it.

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    That is histrory.

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    You guys watch the Heat game?

    The foul on Nowitzki at the end by Haslem? That brought back some bad memories. Thank god he didn't let Dirk get the shot off though.

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    Why are people still talking about this????




    It happened about a month ago, forget about it. Move on.

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    Why are people still talking about this????




    It happened about a month ago, forget about it. Move on.
    Good god.

    Listen...people still talk about the Memorial day miracle. People still talk about Kerr's three's against Dallas. People still talk about Horry's 3 last year. Why can't I ing discuss some Spurs "history" without it being ed about?

    Ya it can't be changed. Ya it's a month old. But so what? What else should we discuss, f'ing Rasho Nesterovic? No fanks.

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    Good god.

    Listen...people still talk about the Memorial day miracle. People still talk about Kerr's three's against Dallas. People still talk about Horry's 3 last year. Why can't I ing discuss some Spurs "history" without it being ed about?

    Ya it can't be changed. Ya it's a month old. But so what? What else should we discuss, f'ing Rasho Nesterovic? No fanks.

    I think people do not want to discuss is because it is still an open wound.. this hurts because we let this opportunity slip away... the events you mentioned are all part of past playoff successes (sp?)

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    I think people do not want to discuss is because it is still an open wound.. this hurts because we let this opportunity slip away... the events you mentioned are all part of past playoff successes (sp?)
    This is true.

    Then they should say "It hurts to talk about it, stop!" instead of "It's old news get the over it already".

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    Good god.

    Listen...people still talk about the Memorial day miracle. People still talk about Kerr's three's against Dallas. People still talk about Horry's 3 last year. Why can't I ing discuss some Spurs "history" without it being ed about?

    Ya it can't be changed. Ya it's a month old. But so what? What else should we discuss, f'ing Rasho Nesterovic? No fanks.


    Listen to yourself....

    People still talk about those things because they're a high point in Spurs history. Only es go back and blame this or that for a loss. Hindsight is always 20/20.

    What happens if Pop would've taken Manu out for that play and we STILL lost? This thread would've been led "Why the F!!! did Pop bench Manu on that play?!?!?!".

    Move on seriously, before you make a "Should Bowen have guarded Fisher on that play" thread.

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    This is the most re ed question ever. How the would Pop have guessed to take Manu - the most clutch player in the team - out!????

    This question is like asking howcome the sky is not green?

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    Listen to yourself....

    People still talk about those things because they're a high point in Spurs history. Only es go back and blame this or that for a loss. Hindsight is always 20/20.

    What happens if Pop would've taken Manu out for that play and we STILL lost? This thread would've been led "Why the F!!! did Pop bench Manu on that play?!?!?!".

    Move on seriously, before you make a "Should Bowen have guarded Fisher on that play" thread.
    Listen to yourself.

    Did I not say in my first post "I know it's easy to answer this looking back at it. But..."? This isn't Dr. Phil, it's ok to bring bad that happened in the past too. It's called constructive critcism.



    Although I doubt Pop would ever read this, or care...but generally speaking. It's not a troll bashing, it's just saying "should we have done this?". If it bothers you, too bad.

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    This is the most re ed question ever. How the would Pop have guessed to take Manu - the most clutch player in the team - out!????

    This question is like asking howcome the sky is not green?





    It's just a question.

    And seeing as he made a similar late game boo boo in the Kings series, I don't think it's that "re ed" to just pose the question. Rather...it's "re ed" to overreact and get all sensitive over a simple question.

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    Listen to yourself.

    Did I not say in my first post "I know it's easy to answer this looking back at it. But..."? This isn't Dr. Phil, it's ok to bring bad that happened in the past too. It's called constructive critcism.



    Although I doubt Pop would ever read this, or care...but generally speaking. It's not a troll bashing, it's just saying "should we have done this?". If it bothers you, too bad.
    Hmmm, constructive criticism? So you say Pop should never have Manu in the final moments of a game, because of 1 mistake? We owe the 05 ring to Manu, he deserves to be trusted in the closing seconds. Pop made a decision to play him. Manu made a decision to go for the block. Season's over.

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    It's just a question.

    And seeing as he made a similar late game boo boo in the Kings series, I don't think it's that "re ed" to just pose the question. Rather...it's "re ed" to overreact and get all sensitive over a simple question.

    Wow, I guess I can assume you'll never be a b-ball coach. I guess you'll just have to stick to pedophiling the internets.

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    Wow, I guess I can assume you'll never be a b-ball coach. I guess you'll just have to stick to pedophiling the internets.
    Because those are the only 2 options available, right?

    Any good basketball coach questions his own decisions. That's how you improve. If you have a "well happens" at ude, how the do you make the right decision next time around?

    I'm not saying Pop SHOULD have taken him out, I'm asking should Pop have CONSIDERED taking him out. If that kind of a question justifies you calling me a pedofile, then you.

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    Hmmm, constructive criticism? So you say Pop should never have Manu in the final moments of a game, because of 1 mistake? We owe the 05 ring to Manu, he deserves to be trusted in the closing seconds. Pop made a decision to play him. Manu made a decision to go for the block. Season's over.
    I'm saying because of that one BIG mistake in the Kings series, and Manu's general style of play...Pop should have CONSIDERED taking Manu out for that one Defensive play where we DIDN'T need a big block or defensive play, and then bring him back on offense.

    Key word: CONSIDER

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    Because those are the only 2 options available, right?

    Any good basketball coach questions his own decisions. That's how you improve. If you have a "well happens" at ude, how the do you make the right decision next time around?

    I'm not saying Pop SHOULD have taken him out, I'm asking should Pop have CONSIDERED taking him out. If that kind of a question justifies you calling me a pedofile, then you.
    I don't question Pops decision, neither should he. If he did, he'd be second guessing Manu whenever he's in the game from this point forward. I'm sure he told the guys to not foul. Manu thought he had a clean block and he went for it. So now you're saying he should be benched on key defensive plays for being aggressive?

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    I don't question Pops decision, neither should he. If he did, he'd be second guessing Manu whenever he's in the game from this point forward. I'm sure he told the guys to not foul. Manu thought he had a clean block and he went for it. So now you're saying he should be benched on key defensive plays for being aggressive?
    Not for being aggressive, it's great he's agressive.

    Buit when we're in a situation where we don't NEED him to be agressive, should Pop have considered taking him out for one play? That's all I'm saying. It's not just the fact he fouled Dirk, it's his tendencies to go for steals and get beat as well.

    He does gamble on defense...and that was just a spot where we didn't need a big defensive play.

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    Not for being aggressive, it's great he's agressive.

    Buit when we're in a situation where we don't NEED him to be agressive, should Pop have considered taking him out for one play? That's all I'm saying. It's not just the fact he fouled Dirk, it's his tendencies to go for steals and get beat as well.

    He does gamble on defense...and that was just a spot where we didn't need a big defensive play.
    He made a mistake, do you realize that? I thought I read a quote of his that said something to the effect of "Pop told us not to foul, but I thought I had the block."

    Geez, I can't believe I'm STILL even talking about this.

    Let's move on:

    Should Portland have CONSIDERED drafting Jordan instead of Bowie in 84? Discuss....

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    He made a mistake, do you realize that? I thought I read a quote of his that said something to the effect of "Pop told us not to foul, but I thought I had the block."

    Geez, I can't believe I'm STILL even talking about this.

    Let's move on:

    Should Portland have CONSIDERED drafting Jordan instead of Bowie in 84? Discuss....
    "Still" discussing it? It's less than 2 weeks old.

    Yes he made a mistake. But that's his style of play. He's "aggressive" like you said, and like Gervin said "he can win you the game, or lose it for you". So when you're in a situation with the game in hand, you should consider taking him out for one play if it could cost you the game.


    That, is my opinion.

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    So when you're in a situation with the game in hand, you should consider taking him out for one play if it could cost you the game.
    And when you're done considering it, you put him in for the play.

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    "Still" discussing it? It's less than 2 weeks old.

    Yes he made a mistake. But that's his style of play. He's "aggressive" like you said, and like Gervin said "he can win you the game, or lose it for you". So when you're in a situation with the game in hand, you should consider taking him out for one play if it could cost you the game.


    That, is my opinion.
    2 weeks old, 2 series ago. We lost, . Will you stop talking if I say, "Yes, you're completely right, Manu should never have been playing in the closing moments. What was Pop thinking!?!?!?"

    If Pop would've CONSIDERED your option, we would've never even went into overtime.

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    2 weeks old, 2 series ago. We lost, . Will you stop talking if I say, "Yes, you're completely right, Manu should never have been playing in the closing moments. What was Pop thinking!?!?!?"

    If Pop would've CONSIDERED your option, we would've never even went into overtime.
    I'd stop if you simply stated "I would still keep him in the game, he's clutch" or "he's who got us here, we have no choice but to stick with him". Instead of "stop discussing this , it's 2 weeks old".


    You're right, we wouldn't of gone to overtime. B/c we would have won.

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    And when you're done considering it, you put him in for the play.
    I probably would too.

    Hindsight is always 20/20 I suppose.

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    It was a flat-out stupid play. Like everyone else, I love Manu and will defend him anytime. However there is no defending Manu's action here. I still cannot believe he made such an incredibly, stupid decision after having been advised to the contrary.

    The fact is Dirk is 7 ft tall. Manu's is not likely going to block his shot. The replay showed he didn't even get close. It was a good call by the officials and a dumb-ass play on Manu's part.

    I don't care what anyone says. That ONE play cost the team a trip to the finals. That ONE play is now being defined as THE crowning moment in the Mavs championship drive.

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    Actually i think he's on to something. Coulda shoulda woulda, but it makes sense. Why leave Manu in for a defensive possession up three with 22 secs left?

    He's never done anything in situations like that but up

    hmm...i bet PJ suggested this but pop ignored him

    Clearly you don't remember games 1 and 5 that he won with defense. What a surprise. You're such a hater. How'd your Pistons do this year?

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