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    Steve Smith is no Manu.

    no kidding you were just pointing out how much he made


    money should not make you a starter you should earn it to a certain extent
    manu earns it but also you have to protect him because the playoffs is what it is about

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    GIVE IT TO GINOBILI beirmeistr's Avatar
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    My point about the 52 million was very simple---I think the Spurs management decided to sign him for that large sum of money because they were thinking of him as a starter. Just like they thought that Rasho was going to be a starter for his 42 million.

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    Well, we probably thought we could play Manu more than 30 mpg when we gave him the $52 million, too.

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    Well, we probably thought we could play Manu more than 30 mpg when we gave him the $52 million, too.
    Well to be fair Duncan and Parker have averaged about 33-34mpg each the past few years. Pretty low for a guy like Duncan even despite not being healthy. It would be a problem if they got 39mpg and Manu was lagging at 26-27mpg.

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    I might agree if we could start Beno or Horry. We have crazy depth at the 2. Finley's presence just really seems to make monitoring Manu's minutes a priority.

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    Suppose there never was an Aaron? aaronstampler's Avatar
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    Quote: "Manu is not given the ball in the first six minutes of the game."
    Perhaps a more practical approach is for Parker to quit ignoring Manu the first six minutes of the game.

    Yes. I keep saying this. I hate having designated Tony portions of the game and Tim portions of the game and Manu portions of the game. It makes us too predictable. It'd be nice if all three of them could learn to play with each other and all be to help get each other going thruought the game.

    I think it's VERY bad commentary on Tony that Manu gets fed the ball more when the backup points are in the game.

    The problem is Tony isn't mature enough to help win a game in any other way than score. If he doesn't go off in the first quarter, he pouts and he's useless the rest of the game. He's not like Tim who can help win a game when his shot is off by rebounding and defense and drawing double teams. And he's not like Manu who even when he's not scoring, he can draw charges and get steals.

    I'll be impressed if Tony could ever have a game where he's like 3 for 13 on the floor, but 9 assists and 3 steals. Sadly, I don't know if emotionally he's capable of that.

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    That was a big steaming load.

    Tony takes so many shots because Pop tells him to.

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    I'll be impressed if Tony could ever have a game where he's like 3 for 13 on the floor, but 9 assists and 3 steals. Sadly, I don't know if emotionally he's capable of that.
    Tony didn't have many 3-for-13 nights this season. But I grabbed a few of his off shooting nights and here's his assist numbers. Seems like he does exactly what you say he is "emotionally" incapable of.

    6-14 Mavs 9 assists
    6-15 Rockets 8 assists
    4-11 Lakers 6 assists
    5-12 Heat 11 assists
    9-21 Bucks 11 assists
    7-17 Pistons 4 assists
    3-9 Nuggets 6 assists
    4-11 Nuggets 7 assists

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    Suppose there never was an Aaron? aaronstampler's Avatar
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    whatever Kori. This stupid Pop does where it's Tony's show for 3 quarters and then if the game's tight or they're losing they go to Manu in the 4th is really getting old and it's unfair to both players.

    It's messed up for Manu if he takes like five or six shots the whole game and then he has to be counted on as a savior in the 4th quarter when he might not have his rhythm.

    And it's messed up for Tony too. How does it feel when Pop tells him that he doesn't trust him enough to carry the team home?

    I'm telling you, if it hasn't already, it's going to lead to a rift between those two, and it's pretty much Pop's doing. I'm just saying the offense would be better if you never knew who was gonna get the ball among the big three at any given time.

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    Then blame Pop for the system.

    But to think Tony is emotionally incapable or pouty is stupid.

    Pop uses Tony to jumpstart the offense in the 1st. He runs the ball through Manu in the 4th. I agree that it's predicability is annoying. But there's no rift. Both Tony and Manu are more mature than that.

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    I think if the Spurs keep using TP to score a lot of points in the beginning of game, then they might as well bring Manu off the bench in the first, but have him start in the 3rd quarter. Once Manu comes in, TP eventually leaves, and the offense continues to do well.

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    ducks should come off the bench for Tony and Sequ for Manu

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    Manu would definitely win 6th Man of the Year.

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