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I'll bet Shaq or Mourning won't mind giving him another one.
Mavs fans have earned it.
I'll bet Shaq or Mourning won't mind giving him another one.
After reviewing it following the game, the League took the flagrant foul away. JJ did slip on the rim, Stack was not the reason he got hurt.
I can tell you one thing, I wasn't crying when Dirk started hopping like a schoolgirl playing hopscotch.
He tipped him. I'm pretty sure Joe Johnson knows 1) how to dunk a ball; and 2) how to hang on the rim to avoid trouble.
Everyone took the high road on the play - even D'Antoni said it was accidental. Had Phoenix made a fuss, there's little doubt the flagrant would have remained. The league didn't rescind the foul, they rescinded the flagrant - suggesting there was no intent.
But look at what happened tonight. It takes a lot to project behavior backwards, but it does seem Stackhouse has a knack for placing opponents in harmful situations on breakaway dunks. Watch the play tonight and there's no doubt that Stackhouse is either going to take out Jason Williams or Shaq, whichever is attempting the shot. And then he does. He was looking to lay someone out.
The flagrant was rescinded and the Suns came out and said that it was not a dirty play.After reviewing it following the game, the League took the flagrant foul away.
That said, Stack was trailing, he had no shot at the ball and hit Johnson from behind while Johnson was in the air. JJ did not make it a habit to fall on his face very often. Stack was the reason JJ broke his face. It was a stupid play.
Or what Mr Body said.
All I know is Puban's whining about Riley ball was pretty hollow. Riley, in his earlier days, would have put in the worst scrub on the team to knock the out of Dirk after Stack's flagrant on Shaq.
Wow, you guys really are a bunch of shameful pussies.
Watch the replay of that play. It was not a dirty play. Plain and simple. I hate Stack big time just like the rest of you. But that JJ play was not a dirty play nor a flagrant foul. What he did on Shaq was obviosly flagrant. No question. But it doesnt make what happened with Johnson a dirty play.
Yeah, wanting to protect players from harm is a pussy thing to do.
How is this different from Haslem/Heinrich? The problem with Mark Cuban's pussy NBA is payback of old is dead. Maybe the Heat owner should send some tape to the league. Cause if this was Haslem fouling Dirk, he would be screaming for it.
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2. Moan
3. Repeat
Hey, the Mark Cuban philosophy, I know of it well.
Perfect.
And yet he's helped get this team to where they are today, regardless of what you think of him. Dallas fans appreciate what he's done for the organization. He could be off getting hammered or not give a about the team like other owners around the league.
This is the part where you about something else and the cycle repeats itself.
Good for you. Now go waddle off to stand over your dingy toilet, bending at the waist slightly forward, and 'appreciate' him in your own special way into the murky waters.
Here;s the problem you brought up Mark Cuban so me ing about Mark Cuban would be considered "something else". I simply dropped his name as an adjective you however brought up what he's done. So when I bring up how he's turned the game into a game for sissies, that would be enforcing your point, so I can't very well about Mark Cuban because that doesn't belong in this thread, really I have no idea why you brought him up.
Rivalry I can understand. Maybe even the owner. But they have earned it? LOL!!!
I think Stack could have taken him.
can someone send me the video of this? im on vacation across the world and i cant see any of the games
I'm sure you can find it on the ESPN or NBA sites.
whoa, ESPN is reviewing Stacks foul on th3 345 lb ShaQ
Stack Foul Scrutiny
The NBA is going to take another look at Jerry Stackhouse's flagrant foul against Shaquille O'Neal, which means there's no guarantee Stack will be in uniform for Game 5.
It might seem unlikely he'll be suspended, but it's not out of the question.
Though O'Neal simply laughed the foul off by saying his daughters hit harder, the foul certainly seemed to fit the rule-book definition of a flagrant foul-category 2, which states such a foul to be unnecessary and excessive (as opposed to a category-1 flagrant, which is merely unnecessary).
"All flagrants are reviewed, and this case is no different," said NBA vice president Stu Jackson, who has the discretion to suspend Stackhouse or not suspend him for Game 5 if he indeed reclassifies the foul as a category 2. Throwing a punch brings an automatic suspension (just ask Jason Terry, who sat out Game 6 against san Antonio for taking a swing at Michael Finley), but committing a flagrant-category 2 does not bring a suspension unless Jackson feels one is merited.
Stackhouse's flagrant foul came after Jason Williams stole the ball and was going in uncontested but saw O'Neal trailing close behind. He passed the ball to Shaq, and Stackhouse came across the lane and raked O'Neal across the upper chest and face, knocking him hard to the floor.
Antoine Walker picked up a technical for going after Stackhouse, and Stackhouse got to shoot that technical free throw when the referees decided against calling a flagrant-penalty 2 foul against him, which would have brought an automatic ejection. But after Stackhouse made his shot, O'Neal went to the line and knocked down both of his to get the lead up to 20, 72-52.
"My impression was my daughters tackle me harder when I come home," O'Neal said. "You know, I'm one of the last players from the old school, and you know, you just have to take a hard foul like that and keep on moving. It actually felt pretty good to get hit like that. Thank you, Jerry, I appreciate it."
Said Stackhouse: "It was a hard foul. I mean, he was going to the basket. In fact, when Shaq is going to the basket, we want to make him go to the free throw line and earn it."
The situation could have gotten out of control after the foul was committed, with Heat coach Pat Riley running onto the floor and into the fray, and Walker going after Stackhouse.
"You've got heroes like Antoine Walker coming up feeling like he's got to say something. For what? He hasn't fought one time in this league," Dallas' Darrell Armstrong said. "All of the sudden you're getting brave?"
But the referees separated the teams, and nothing ever escalated.
And unless Jackson comes down extra hard on Stackhouse, this flagrant foul won't be escalated in severity. The tricky thing is, however, that there's really no telling what Jackson will do.
-- Chris Sheridan at AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami
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I thought Cuban said to Letterman he's against old basketball and try to make things much easier for the league-let the players take it to the rim
BTW, that's another score for being such nice guys Mavs...
Upon repeated viewings, I think the only thing that might get Stack in further trouble would be the follow through. The use of his right arm could be seen as excessive.
Mavs are biggest hypocrites out there - complaining about the NBA being too violent and rough for their pussy form of basketball, but I have yet to see a team with more suspensions this post-season (and then when they get suspended, we get responses like "Finley drove his hip into his face, whine whine wine...").whoa, ESPN is reviewing Stacks foul on th3 345 lb ShaQ
Stack Foul Scrutiny
The NBA is going to take another look at Jerry Stackhouse's flagrant foul against Shaquille O'Neal, which means there's no guarantee Stack will be in uniform for Game 5.
It might seem unlikely he'll be suspended, but it's not out of the question.
Though O'Neal simply laughed the foul off by saying his daughters hit harder, the foul certainly seemed to fit the rule-book definition of a flagrant foul-category 2, which states such a foul to be unnecessary and excessive (as opposed to a category-1 flagrant, which is merely unnecessary).
"All flagrants are reviewed, and this case is no different," said NBA vice president Stu Jackson, who has the discretion to suspend Stackhouse or not suspend him for Game 5 if he indeed reclassifies the foul as a category 2. Throwing a punch brings an automatic suspension (just ask Jason Terry, who sat out Game 6 against san Antonio for taking a swing at Michael Finley), but committing a flagrant-category 2 does not bring a suspension unless Jackson feels one is merited.
Stackhouse's flagrant foul came after Jason Williams stole the ball and was going in uncontested but saw O'Neal trailing close behind. He passed the ball to Shaq, and Stackhouse came across the lane and raked O'Neal across the upper chest and face, knocking him hard to the floor.
Antoine Walker picked up a technical for going after Stackhouse, and Stackhouse got to shoot that technical free throw when the referees decided against calling a flagrant-penalty 2 foul against him, which would have brought an automatic ejection. But after Stackhouse made his shot, O'Neal went to the line and knocked down both of his to get the lead up to 20, 72-52.
"My impression was my daughters tackle me harder when I come home," O'Neal said. "You know, I'm one of the last players from the old school, and you know, you just have to take a hard foul like that and keep on moving. It actually felt pretty good to get hit like that. Thank you, Jerry, I appreciate it."
Said Stackhouse: "It was a hard foul. I mean, he was going to the basket. In fact, when Shaq is going to the basket, we want to make him go to the free throw line and earn it."
The situation could have gotten out of control after the foul was committed, with Heat coach Pat Riley running onto the floor and into the fray, and Walker going after Stackhouse.
"You've got heroes like Antoine Walker coming up feeling like he's got to say something. For what? He hasn't fought one time in this league," Dallas' Darrell Armstrong said. "All of the sudden you're getting brave?"
But the referees separated the teams, and nothing ever escalated.
And unless Jackson comes down extra hard on Stackhouse, this flagrant foul won't be escalated in severity. The tricky thing is, however, that there's really no telling what Jackson will do.
-- Chris Sheridan at AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami
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I thought Cuban said to Letterman he's against old basketball and try to make things much easier for the league-let the players take it to the rim
BTW, that's another score for being such nice guys Mavs...
It's ironic that one of the Pussy Bridgade (Dirk being the King, Josh Howard the queen, Devin Harris the prince... you see where I'm going) - Darrell Armstrong - actually has the nerve to call out Antoine Walker... now, I'm always one of the first to rip on Walker for shooting too many 3s and being an overall worthless part of a team, but for a 40-year-old former CBA player to be calling out a first-round draft pick and an NCAA championship winner? He's just asking to be laid out the next time there's a 20 point deficit and he actually gets in the game...
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