Now This Is Pathetic.............

[MadDog73]

That has never kept the Spurs (or any other team that I know of) from trading anyone if they thought it was the best strategic and financial move for the team.

I would love to have Ben Wallace on this team. I think playing for Pop would be an eye-opening and humbling experience for him (don't misunderstand, I'm a BIG Ben fan, but he has never played for anyone like Pop...LB doesn't count). I think he would be successful here. I think the fans (and the team) would love it. But, from a strictly personal standpoint...there's not a Spur that they would take, that I'm willing to give up for him.

As Chump Dumper mentioned, they may not have a choice.

Who did LA get for Shaq again?

[pache100]

As Chump Dumper mentioned, they may not have a choice.

Who did LA get for Shaq again?

All I was saying is that whether they do/don't trade (whatever they do), it won't be based on what the fans think or want. The NBA is a business. They don't care what us peons want.

[Trainwreck2100]

For the love of God, IT'S FROM HOOPSWORLD. These are the same people that said MAlone was going to be a Spur.

[Bruno]

Link to the article :
http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_17765.shtml

BTW, this article is another proof of the low quality of some articles on this website : this guy doesn't even know the CBA.

The Timberwolves are not out of the hunt, they are one of the few teams that could offer Marcus more than the $5 plus million per year he’d receive in a median exception deal.

And this deal is horrible for San Antonio : Don't forget that Ben Wallace is a unrestricted free agent, he isn't under contract with Detroit. Detroit won't get something great for him in a S&T if he doesn't want to play for Detroit next year (see what Boston get for Walker last summer).

[polandprzem]

Ben for MLE

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Look at this article from HoopsWorld.com about Ben Wallace:

Ben Wallace (unrestricted) – There are two prevailing thoughts regarding Ben – one is that he does not like Flip Saunder’s system, and that he has decided to explore life elsewhere, the other is that Ben’s standoffish approach is more playing the cards to insure he gets a maximum contract. Its highly unlikely the Pistons let Ben walk, especially over money – but there are more than a couple of NBA sources who say its not a leap to believe the Pistons let Ben’s people shop him out and establish his value and make their decision from there. A source close to the Spurs said that if Ben wants to a Spur, they would answer that phone call – a deal sending Rasho Nesterovic and Manu Ginobili, gets the money right for Ben, but would such a package interest the Pistons enough to move their best defensive player?- HoopsWorld.com

Now that is just bullcrap. This is now the "Tell Off Hoopsworld For Their Lame Ass Staff" Thread.

damn I hope this happens

[z0sa]

I would really hate to lose Manu... but Ben Wallace as a Spur? We would definitely be the best defensive team in the league. Tim would reform to a more 2003 MVP role, with Tony the second leading scorer. I could see this being very good... but still, Manu not a spur? =(

[tim_duncan_fan]

I would do this trade in a heartbeat.

[itzsoweezee]

NO

parker, ginobili, duncan = untouchable

[FUCKMARKCUBAN]

if i were in charge of the spurs....that trade would never happen. ginobili is a spur till death!

[SPARKY]

Still, if all the Spurs are offering back is Radoslav or Mohammed back in a S&T I think the Pistons tell Ben 'it's been nice'...

[exstatic]

Pop and RC are WAAAAAAAY to smart to take on a MAX contract for a 32 YO one way interior player. After two years, you could kiss the Tim Duncan era goodbye, because we'd never be able to sign anyone to anything but minimum contracts. That contract would be an albatross, which is why Wallace hired an agent: Detroit doesn't really want to do it, either.

[SequSpur]

the spurs don't need an out of control control guard as much as they need help for duncan down low

[furry_spurry]

Manu and Rasho will be making a combined $15,500,000 next season- like the Spurs would give Ben Wallace anything close to that!!

[Darrin]

Manu and Rasho will be making a combined $15,500,000 next season- like the Spurs would give Ben Wallace anything close to that!!

4-years, 62-million dollars? You can't see Ben Wallace having that kind of an impact on the Spurs? It's better to pay Rasho Nesterovic and Nazr Mohammad a combined 12.2 million this season?

[furry_spurry]

Try more like 4 years and $71,000,000 with the built-in raises-- and you really think he only wants a four year deal?

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I've seen Wallace phone in performances too often (in the playoffs no less) to give up Manu for him. No thanks.

[Darrin]

I've seen Wallace phone in performances too often (in the playoffs no less) to give up Manu for him. No thanks.

I about fell out of my chair after reading that. Ben Wallace phoning it in...

[Darrin]

Try more like 4 years and $71,000,000 with the built-in raises-- and you really think he only wants a four year deal?

He won't get more than 4 years here unless he takes a significant paycut. 4 years allows him to make more money over the long-term because 15 million a season is pushing it at 36, but it's unacceptable at 38, 39.



Short memories. I remember a certain Spurs center making 14 million at 36-years-old, and that was five years ago.

[Obstructed_View]

Ben Wallace. Flip doesn't even want him. I wouldn't trade Manu for him straight up.

[Darrin]

Flip doesn't even want him. I wouldn't trade Manu for him straight up.

That's because Flip doesn't know how to utilize him; he's not a Larry Brown disciple. Who was Gregg Popovich so close to? I can't put my finger on his name. I wouldn't trade him straight-up for Manu, either. The Pistons do need a replacement at center, and Rasho has been successful in Flip's system before (11.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg, and 1.51 bpg for 50-32 Minnesota Timberwolves in last year).

[Darrin]

A defensive force on the back on the frontline with Tim Duncan. That's great. There's a big man who can change up weak-side and man-on-man. He can switch the pick and roll, crashes the offensive boards (led the league last year), creates cleaner looks at the basket by sealing off defenders, and would be a larger offensive threat around the rim with the double-teams on Duncan, the penetration of Parker, and spot-shooting by Bowen.

This solves a huge area of concern for the Spurs and leaves them the MLE to pursue a man like DeShawn Stevenson or Speedy Claxton. Brent Barry and Michael Finley are still on the roster - capable trade bait that can either hold down the fort in Manu's place or land someone more in Manu's style. Overall, at every position, the Spurs get better defensively.

Wallace isn't just capable, he's also Championship experienced. He's played for similarly-demanding coaches in Rick Carlisle and Larry Brown.

[Obstructed_View]

A defensive force on the back on the frontline with Tim Duncan. That's great. There's a big man who can change up weak-side and man-on-man. He can switch the pick and roll, crashes the offensive boards (led the league last year), creates cleaner looks at the basket by sealing off defenders, and would be a larger offensive threat around the rim with the double-teams on Duncan, the penetration of Parker, and spot-shooting by Bowen.

This solves a huge area of concern for the Spurs and leaves them the MLE to pursue a man like DeShawn Stevenson or Speedy Claxton. Brent Barry and Michael Finley are still on the roster - capable trade bait that can either hold down the fort in Manu's place or land someone more in Manu's style. Overall, at every position, the Spurs get better defensively.

Wallace isn't just capable, he's also Championship experienced. He's played for similarly-demanding coaches in Rick Carlisle and Larry Brown.

You want Manu so bad you can taste it.

[orhe]

haha lol

let's do that deal...
that deal would haunt us... who the would guard manu if we play the spurs? bruce? then who would guard rip... the moment manu gets his drive going duncan can't do (check olympics)

[angel_luv]

Manu and Rasho will be making a combined $15,500,000 next season

Wow! Nice job guys!