They're refering to the upcoming season.
Especially for the Pistons, most people are saying that Miami or Cleveland is the new power in the East.
what are you guys talking about? all season long all we have been hearing about is the spurs and pistons are head and shoulders above everyone else and how the pistons were gonna win 70 games. how the are they under the radar?
They're refering to the upcoming season.
Especially for the Pistons, most people are saying that Miami or Cleveland is the new power in the East.
I think you have to throw in the Suns...they are gonna be scary next season
The Mavs and Heat cannot last too many years. Mavs payroll is out of control, and perhaps this run has convinced Cuban that the investment is worth it, but I have some nagging doubts that Cuban would continue to throw money at the team like that.
As for the Heat, Payton and Mourning are a million years old, and people don't seem to realize that the Heat plays much much better with Mourning in the middle instead of Shaq in this series. Their offense becomes crisp, their defense becomes much more active. Besides, Shaq is not going to last too many years. Wade is good, but he is not, and probably will not be, Jordan good, and even Jordan needed Pippen.
Is the Mav payroll out of control?
I mean they got rid of Nash and got a bunch of really good, under the radar athletic guards/forwards who are a lot better than what they cost.
I know that Damp was a drain.
Cuban won't go cheap. That's not a mistake he will make, especially after being so close to winning it all.
Never underestimate your opponents. Hate them like I do, I don't underestimate them.
I agree with what you say (that Jordan needed Pippen and Wade is not Jordan good), but I would not underestimate Wade either.
Look where they were: down 0-2, down 13 in game 3 in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes 30 seconds left.
They were done and Wade raised them from the dead. He completely and utterly dominated the last 4 games of the series. That was as impressive a display over a Finals (entire series not just one game) as we have seen in this league in a long time.
His jumpshot is not going anywhere. It is solid and it's been very consistent for years and that is even more true lately. And he is an amazing athlete (e.g. that block on Josh Howard (to say nothing of his multiple blocks on Dirk)). He can get to the rim at will and he is a very good free throw shooter. All he needs is a decent center at this point and he has that in Shaq, who is surely that good even at this stage in his career.
Dallas couldn't stop him late in game 5 even with 4 defenders.
The Mavs and Heat cannot last too many years. Mavs payroll is out of control, and perhaps this run has convinced Cuban that the investment is worth it, but I have some nagging doubts that Cuban would continue to throw money at the team like that.
As for the Heat, Payton and Mourning are a million years old, and people don't seem to realize that the Heat plays much much better with Mourning in the middle instead of Shaq in this series. Their offense becomes crisp, their defense becomes much more active. Besides, Shaq is not going to last too many years. Wade is good, but he is not, and probably will not be, Jordan good, and even Jordan needed Pippen.
Is the Mav payroll out of control?
I mean they got rid of Nash and got a bunch of really good, under the radar athletic guards/forwards who are a lot better than what they cost.
I know that Damp was a drain.
Cuban won't go cheap. That's not a mistake he will make, especially after being so close to winning it all.
Never underestimate your opponents. Hate them like I do, I don't underestimate them.
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I agree with what you say (that Jordan needed Pippen and Wade is not Jordan good), but I would not underestimate Wade either.
Look where they were: down 0-2, down 13 in game 3 in the fourth quarter with 6 minutes 30 seconds left.
They were done and Wade raised them from the dead. He completely and utterly dominated the last 4 games of the series. That was as impressive a display over a Finals (entire series not just one game) as we have seen in this league in a long time.
His jumpshot is not going anywhere. It is solid and it's been very consistent for years and that is even more true lately. And he is an amazing athlete (e.g. that block on Josh Howard (to say nothing of his multiple blocks on Dirk)). He can get to the rim at will and he is a very good free throw shooter. All he needs is a decent center at this point and he has that in Shaq, who is surely that good even at this stage in his career.
Dallas couldn't stop him late in game 5 even with 4 defenders.
I'm not so sure about the Heat being strong in the future. Wade is a stud, but that's a veteran team right now as it is and I don't see many of their core veterans (including Shaq) being around after next season. They're gonna have to rebuild the pieces around Wade in order to maintain their success over the long haul.
The Pistons should be fine if Ben stays and they add a couple of strong bench players like they had on their "04 championship squad. Spurs and Mavs will be fine.
Joe D. interviewed both Terry Porter and Jim Obrien and Joe might hire both of the coaches. I like the idea. If all these guys could come in and work together with their streengths the Pistons could get back to the Finals.
The Spurs got Matt Bonner. The guy can hit an occasional 3 so if he starts doing that consistantly it could take some defense off of Tim wich would help the Spurs a lot.
I think both the Pistons and Spurs will have only 53 wins next season, but get back to where they belong.
I tend to disagree...for you Pistons fans...the Cavs will be the team to beat! If they even get one more "decent" shooter, they will be really tough with LeBron. I can honestly say that the East and West are pretty even now...
WEST:
Mavs
Spurs
Suns
Kings
Lakers
EAST:
Pistons
Heat
Cavs
Nets (we'll see)
Won't matter unless the Pistons acquire some decent depth this offseason.Joe D. interviewed both Terry Porter and Jim Obrien and Joe might hire both of the coaches
The Spurs got Matt Bonner. The guy can hit an occasional 3 so if he starts doing that consistantly it could take some defense off of Tim wich would help the Spurs a lot.
I think both the Pistons and Spurs will have only 53 wins next season, but get back to where they belong.
if the league would change their stupid playoff format, the spurs would have gone to the finals and probably won the championship. but anyways, i would definitely put cleveland in the mix for the finals in the next few years, but i see San Antonio and Dallas as the only teams that can come out of the west, and the east has a few, including Detroit,Miami,Cleveland,and maybe even Indiana if they can get everything straightened out. I'm not sure that Miami can do as well next year with Shaq getting older,i say hes in the last few years in the league. so D-Wade will have to get another big man soon
i bet you Joe (Dumars) told Flip right away after the Pistons lost he better play the bench. Pistons have some talent there. Dice will play, but Delfino, Maxiell, and Amir Johnson have to get a chance. I think Mo Evans and Delk will be gone. If the Pistons get a back up PG and a 7 footer and play them with the rest of the bench things will be good. Avery gave guys like Diop a chance and they performed very well and it almost won Dallas a ship. Flip needs to give the guys a chance as well.
Ill keep saying it:people forget the piston they are not a fluke anymore their run is over,they will be lucky to even ge to the playoffs next year...
This isn't that suprising to me. The Pistons need a defensive force, and if you look at the crew Philadelphia had in 2004-05 and in 2005-06, it was the same group, and the Sixers were a much better team defensively under O'Brien. Harter, the defensive mind of those O'Brien teams in Boston and Philadelphia, served under Chuck Daly in Detroit. Billups has played for O'Brien as well (assistant under Rick Pitino in Boston from 1997-2001).Joe D. interviewed both Terry Porter and Jim Obrien and Joe might hire both of the coaches
The Spurs got Matt Bonner. The guy can hit an occasional 3 so if he starts doing that consistantly it could take some defense off of Tim wich would help the Spurs a lot.
I think both the Pistons and Spurs will have only 53 wins next season, but get back to where they belong.
He's the perfect compliment to Saunders' laid-back style. I hope the Pistons hire both.
I think Miami has already surpassed Detroit.. As the show on ESPN said"Detroit is even too arrogant to double-team Shaq".. I think it will be Spurs-Miami next year
You live and learn. The decision to not double Shaq was done this year for the simple fact that it worked the previous two years. If Flip had all of a sudden came in and changed a proven method before seeing if it would work again, he would have never heard the end of it from the media if it failed.
Exactly!
Josh Howard and Jason Terry are both up for extension, and I believe Dirk is up next year as well. Didn't Marquis Daniels just had a 66 million deal last year? On the other hand, I think KvH is coming off the books either this or next year, so that's some relief. But regardless, Mavs wil have a very big pay roll if they want to keep everybody.
You don't really have much of value to offer to any conversation do you?
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