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    Are you sure of that ?

    Pretty sure...he had a 4 year deal with a team option on the 4th year. That was what the papers said when they signed him.

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    I believe Barry's contract is guaranteed through 2007/2008, via hoopshype.

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    I thought that the top 10 got pretty good contracts, but maybe it's just the top 5. Now that I think about it though, it'd probably be around 2M (just guessing). So no, not such a big deal.

    The only issue I have is offense with both of these guys. While Thabo is very raw, I think he just needs polish and work and he could become reliable. Brewer on the other hand had a childhood accident that won't allow him to fully extend his left elbow. That makes for one nasty shot. Brewer basically is a transition scorer from what I've seen...and the Spurs are not a transition team.

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    Both Hoopshype and Patricia's show no team option on Barry

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    I believe Barry's contract is guaranteed through 2007/2008, via hoopshype.

    They might be right, because damned if I can find any statement to back that team option thing up now...but correctly guessing who has option years isn't exactly the speciality of Hoopshype.

    They didn't have Ferry down with a team option...

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    Both Hoopshype and Patricia's show no team option on Barry

    Yeah I can't find any mention of it anywhere either...and that's really interesting, because I know that was stated quite a bit when we signed him originally. 3 Years with a team option on the 4th...

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    I thought that the top 10 got pretty good contracts, but maybe it's just the top 5. Now that I think about it though, it'd probably be around 2M (just guessing). So no, not such a big deal.

    The only issue I have is offense with both of these guys. While Thabo is very raw, I think he just needs polish and work and he could become reliable. Brewer on the other hand had a childhood accident that won't allow him to fully extend his left elbow. That makes for one nasty shot. Brewer basically is a transition scorer from what I've seen...and the Spurs are not a transition team.
    They both have reputations as decent to good defenders with - as you said - weaker offensive games. Would Brewer's tricept bone affect three point shots?

    The appeal of both is their all-around game. They'll fill the stat sheets, can handle the ball, pass, rebound, etc. They'd give a third dimension to the perimeter that Bowen isn't able to provide.

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    FWDT and MB...



    don't forget, we could still trade Mahnimi as well.
    excuse me you DON'T trade away your future. SUPER star quality big man just don't grow on trees. Sure we have been lucky to have David , tim and finally Ian. I can see trading manu and trying to upgrade to a better player. But ian is going to be one of the best big man that will take over when tim retires. Unless we get jordan in his prime, there is no reason to give away your future. No tractor traylor for dirk trades!

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    excuse me you DON'T trade away your future.
    You do when you have Tim Duncan and a team that is capable of winning les with the right pieces around him.



    SUPER star quality big man just don't grow on trees. Sure we have been lucky to have David , tim and finally Ian. I can see trading manu and trying to upgrade to a better player. But ian is going to be one of the best big man that will take over when tim retires. Unless we get jordan in his prime, there is no reason to give away your future. No tractor traylor for dirk trades!

    I like Mahinimi too...but there's no gurantee he is going to be a Superstar...


    I think he's a tradeable, for the right player.

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    But ian is going to be one of the best big man that will take over when tim retires.

    whoa I hope so but nothing I have seen thinks he is a lock for that

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    Reading between the lines, the Spurs are comfortable with letting Scola, a guy who will average about 13 and 6 a night in the NBA, go in a trade this summer. Why?

    Mahinmi.

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    You do when you have Tim Duncan and a team that is capable of winning les with the right pieces around him.






    I like Mahinimi too...but there's no gurantee he is going to be a Superstar...


    I think he's a tradeable, for the right player.
    Just have your cake and eat it too. Bring Mahinmi in now and let him and Duncan play together.

    The Spurs clearly have a very high opinion of either Javtokas or Mahinmi or both based on the moves they've made up to now. Rasho -- gone. Nazr -- gone. Scola -- gone.

    All right, all right -- Mahinmi probably has nothing to do with that -- it's Javtokas. But I like 'em both and the Spurs have a habit of choosing the right players when crunch time comes. '02 -- Ginobili over Giricek (a no-brainer now but some here wanted Giricek)

    '06 -- Javtokas over Scola. Looks good to me.

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    Javtokas is definetly better than scola
    I am still predicting with this current line up with will not have as many wins this upcoming season. Now when we make this predicted blockbuster trade I will have to rethink our season.

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    All I know is that if Utah offers Kirilenko or something like that for something like Scola, Mahnimi, Williams and Barry...I'll be helping Ian back his bags.

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    Reading between the lines, the Spurs are comfortable with letting Scola, a guy who will average about 13 and 6 a night in the NBA, go in a trade this summer. Why?

    Mahinmi.

    Could be that...could also be that Scola's been nothing but an illtemempered tool since the day the Spurs drafted him....and he seems to choke in big games in Europe...unlike Manu and Javtokas.

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    Could be that...could also be that Scola's been nothing but an illtemempered tool since the day the Spurs drafted him....and he seems to choke in big games in Europe...unlike Manu and Javtokas.
    I don't think that matters. They have an idea of what he can do in the L vis a vis Javtokas and Mahinmi. The latter fit the style of game the Spurs want to play going forward. The Spurs seem to be moving away from the Cold War style of halfcourt basketball and moving towards the open court perimeter oriented style. Sure, they'll probably sock a big oaf on IR to foul Shaq 6 times a night if needed but it's clear what's going on.

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    I don't think that matters. They have an idea of what he can do in the L vis a vis Javtokas and Mahinmi. The latter fit the style of game the Spurs want to play going forward. The Spurs seem to be moving away from the Cold War style of halfcourt basketball and moving towards the open court perimeter oriented style. Sure, they'll probably sock a big oaf on IR to foul Shaq 6 times a night if needed but it's clear what's going on.

    Interesting theory...but IMO, if the Spurs wanted to move towards an opencourt style game, they'd be bringing over Scola(who's ability to finish at the basket is his best attribute) and not Javtokas.

    And I kind of hope you are wrong...once again, a half court team is the NBA champion, and open court teams not run by Magic Johnson are still ringless.

    I think what the Spurs are seeking is the ability to match up better defensively with opencourt teams...not necessarily become one.


    Open court Spurs can't even beat the Mavs.

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    Interesting theory...but IMO, if the Spurs wanted to move towards an opencourt style game, they'd be bringing over Scola(who's ability to finish at the basket is his best attribute) and not Javtokas.

    And I kind of hope you are wrong...once again, a half court team is the NBA champion, and open court teams not run by Magic Johnson are still ringless.


    Open court Spurs can't even beat the Mavs.
    With Nesterovic and Mohammed out at the 5 you need Javtokas, who certainly fits an open court style.

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    could scola land bulls 16 pick?

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    could scola land bulls 16 pick?
    At this point I (who am no one) am betting it can.

    And it will.

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    16 pick who do the spurs pick?

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    Chicago should have faith in Argies and Scola gives them a guy who can contribute today and help them improve their playoff performance. Spurs can wait on a prospect to develop. Nice deal for both clubs.

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    i say we do a sign and trade with nazr and throw in scolas draft rights for chandler and the bulls 16th pick...if we have to throw in barry then well we can do that to.
    that way it fills the voice of a rebounder and we can draft an athletic sf aka bowens replacement

    parker/beno/williams
    manu/finely
    bowen/16th pick/bonner
    duncan/bonner/oberto
    chandler/jav./bonner

    we would still have some mle left over as well. i would love if our off season went something like this!
    Not going to happen. The Spurs don't need Chandler...however, I can see a trade for the 16th pick involving Scola.

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    scola could be cheaper then nazr also

    bulls need big

    rumor also has it nuggets are thinking of offering camby for the bulls 16 pick

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    the scola for the bull's 16th pick actually sounds good, and likely to happen if the team thinks about it. spurs could probably still find a very good player at that spot, and could be willing to let him develop for a year or two before giving him heavy minutes,because the spurs are still a deep team, and the bulls will get someone that could help them out alot.

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