Religious Fanatics are Frightening

[DarkReign]

I have the distinct feeling that I have met her before.....Oh wait, thats it...it was every single homeschool mom I met throughout highschool.

Those es are down-right crazy. My fiancee and I were 15 or 16, and we went to a homeschool pool function, and they ended up scheduling a board meeting about troubling behavior in relation to us....guess what it was?

I had my arm around her shoulders...thats it....literally. Everything is "dark side"

QFT

When I was in third grade, these 2 brothers were pulled out of school mid-year and were home-schooled from that point on.

I seen the oldest (my age) like 10-13 years later. He had long hair, long beard, loose clothes and spoke very softly. From 20 feet away, and if you squint, he looked alo like Jesus. Coincidence?

Or insular ignorance?

Obviously, we didnt speak.

[Crookshanks]

Quit ragging on the home-schooled kids. Tests have shown that the vast majority of them are above normal on standardized tests and ususually graduate at a younger age.

In fact, many of the top universities in the country actively recruit home-schooled kids. One of my daughter's friends graduated at age 15 1/2. She started college before her 16th birthday. She graduated from college at age 19 and is now working on a master's degree!

She's smarter and better educated than probably most of the people on this board, and she's much younger!

[DarkReign]

Quit ragging on the home-schooled kids. Tests have shown that the vast majority of them are above normal on standardized tests and ususually graduate at a younger age.

In fact, many of the top universities in the country actively recruit home-schooled kids. One of my daughter's friends graduated at age 15 1/2. She started college before her 16th birthday. She graduated from college at age 19 and is now working on a master's degree!

She's smarter and better educated than probably most of the people on this board, and she's much younger!

...and weirder.

I would trade her intelligence for my street smarts all day and twice on Sunday. Look at your President, does he strike you as above average intelligence?

Nope. Yet he is the most powerful man in the world. Smart = overrated. Some of the smartest people in the world havent amounted to . The highest recorded IQ ever...the guy was a bouncer at a bar.

Whoopety-doo! Whats her major? Art history?

[DarkReign]

street smarts



yeah dogg you larnd everything you know out there on them cold streets in detroit

Figure of speech. You know what I meant.

No, I dont live in Detroit. No one that posts here does.

[Crookshanks]

Whoopety-doo! Whats her major? Art history?

Nope, try psychology. She's going on to get her doctorate so she can become a psychiatrist. What's your calling in life, besides being an idiot?

[Extra Stout]

DarkReign is getting owned.

[RandomGuy]

I would point out in the end, she and her family still accepted the $50,000 that she said she would not...

[Quadzilla99]

That lady recently had to be airlifted to a hospital because of a heart attack. The paramedics were shocked when they found $6.42 in change under her left breast.

[DarkReign]

Nope, try psychology. She's going on to get her doctorate so she can become a psychiatrist. What's your calling in life, besides being an idiot?

No degree. Working for the same company I hired in at when I was 18. Now the GM at 26 (youngest in company history).

Thanks. Like I care what you think.

[DarkReign]

DarkReign is getting owned.

I would certainly hope your standard of pwnage would be higher than this, ES.

[Ya Vez]

gee.. you mean the left has it all together... there are no wack jobs on the other side of the aisle.... sheeeeesh...

[DarkReign]

gee.. you mean the left has it all together... there are no wack jobs on the other side of the aisle.... sheeeeesh...

What took some members thousands of posts to figure out, you sir have done in 8.

You win the honorary Spurstalk award for Smartest Man Alive.

[pussyface]

gee.. you mean the left has it all together... there are no wack jobs on the other side of the aisle.... sheeeeesh...

???

Did anyone make that claim?

Just pointing out that this is the type of crazy that put g dubs in the white house.

The left has a different brand of wackos. religious fundamentalists are uniquely frightening/are responsable for a huge amount of global conflict presently/historically.

[Spurminator]

Just pointing out that this is the type of crazy that put g dubs in the white house.

"Pointing out" implies that you have some kind of imperical data to show that lunatics such as this woman (a) vote at all, (b) voted for Bush, and/or (c) exist in a large enough number to have any influence on a national election.

All you've done is shown a religious wacko and made the inference that because she is religious, and the religious tend to vote Republican, that she and her kind must have voted Republican. And because a Republican won the Presidency, there must be hundreds of thousands of people just like this person.

Your argument has more stretches than an Olympic gymnast.

Real Theocrats are a lot less obvious in their beliefs, and if you think they're all running around screaming about demons and posession, then you're missing the mark.

[Spurminator]

OMG Pro-Abortionists are Scary!!1!

http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/29/bombing.update/index.html

See, this is why abortion is still legal, because of people like this.

[/alternate universe pussyface]

[pussyface]

you are the most easily offended person on the planet.
you are an apologist for religious extremists.
religious fundamentalists are responsable for a huge amount of global conflict presently/historically (from the Crusades to the "War on Terror" for instance.)

I am not claiming that this clip prooves anything about Bush. This woman does however meet the profile of a certain kind of Bush voter to a tee.

I did make the claim that she is not alone in American life. I do believe that a relatively large percentage of the American population can be described as religious fundamentalists.

We live in a day and age when Pat Robertson is among the most powerful figures in the political landscape; he controls a huge block of votes (people like this woman) who have proven that they have the power to swing elections. This voting block is WIDELY RECOGNIZED as the best organized and largest in America today.

She is typical of the type of person who has little else going on in their lives, so they have plenty of time to dedicate to things like organizing for political causes.

Stop crying you ing baby.

The overarching important truth that you overlook is that religious fundamentalism is fundamentally dangerous and has probably been the single greatest scourge on human progress throughout history. It is a theme that has been repeated ad naseum.

[Mr. Body]

Bush lovers are absolutely crazy. This isn't a small percentage. Full of hypocricy - this insane woman was making a huge show about her faith, then turning around and accepting money from the show. Meanwhile, setting an awful example for her children and scaring the crap out of them.

Like tons of people I know. And by far on one side of the political and religious spectrum. 'Conservative' and 'Christian'. God save the rest of us Americans who believe in tolerance, understanding, and not being hypocritical in our dealings with others.

[Crookshanks]

I have been a born-again christian for 40 years, all of my closest friends are conservative, born-again christians. I have lived in many parts of the country and attended lots of churches and I don't know and have NEVER met ANYONE like this woman in the video! She is NOT representative of born-again conservative christians!

It's people like Pussyface and Mr. Body who are the real intolerant hypocrites.

[Spurminator]

I'M being sensitive? I'M crying? I calmly refute your point, add a touch of sarcastic humor, and you throw a boutons fit.

People who watch Pat Robertson aren't like this woman. Pat Robertson is a bag, but you're going after the wrong crowd if you're pointing at the likes of her.

You just need to get out and meet some people. You'll find that there are many varying levels of "fundamentalism."



And remember, Jesus loves you.

[Spurminator]

Like tons of people I know.

Perhaps you should move out of the Branch Davidian Apartments.

[pussyface]

The overarching important truth that you overlook is that religious fundamentalism is fundamentally dangerous and has probably been the single greatest scourge on human progress throughout history. It is a theme that has been repeated ad naseum (Crusades, Inquisitions, "War on Terror," terrorism, etc.)

Care to address this?

[pussyface]

You can talk about degrees all you want, but religious fundamentalists are similarly equiped with a worldview that their specific religious tradition (almost always the one they were born into) is "correct" and that prac ioners of all other faiths must convert or face eternal damnation.

this sort of belief inevitably creates conflict. i dont have a lot of respect for this belief on a personal level.

there is lots of great classical and modern philosophy on the dangers of fundamentalism. a lot of our greatest minds (from aristotle to kant) have written on the matter with illuminating eloquence.

[Nbadan]

This post could just a easily have gone in the Warren Buffet thread, but it's relevance to this thread was overwhelming...

Warren Buffett Gives until it Hurts: Hurts Women, Hurts the Developing World and Kills Preborn Children

“Warren Buffett’s philanthropy aims at killing pre-born children not curing childhood disease, eliminating the poor not poverty, destroying the developing world not aiding in development,” states prominent Roman Catholic Priest.

Contact: Jason Jones, Media Director for Human Life International, 540-551-0217, [email protected]

FRONT ROYAL, Va, June 27 /Christian Newswire/ -- The Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer, President of Human Life International responds to Warren Buffett’s announcement to donate billions of dollars to the pro-abortion Gates Foundation.

“Warren Buffett’s money has gone to fund the deadly abortion causing drug RU- 486, the production and distribution of portable suction abortion devices in the developing world, organizations that push abortion on developing countries, and among many other radical organizations Buffett’s foundation gave a grant to the Center for Reproductive Rights, an organization that fought bans on partial-birth abortion…

“Warren Buffett, who is not a Roman Catholic, has also donated money to the Anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a free Choice a group that seeks to undermine the Catholic Church’s teachings on the sanc y of human life.

“Warren Buffett’s philanthropy aims at killing pre-born children not curing childhood disease, eliminating the poor not poverty, and destroying the developing world not aiding development.

“The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have also given millions of dollars to organizations pushing abortion around the world. The merger of Gates and Buffett may spell doom for the families of the developing world.

“Warren Buffett will be known as the Dr. Mengele of philanthropy unless he repents and ceases using tax deductible donations to promote a culture of death and desolation…,” concluded the Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer.

Founded in 1981, Human Life International is the world’s largest pro-life, pro-family organization that is dedicated to defending life, faith and the family, with branches and affiliates around the world.

EarnedMedia

[Spurminator]

Care to address this?

Not really. I'm not arguing that many of the world's conflicts stem from religious incompatability. All I've argued with is your assertion that fundamentalists look like Fox Reality Show characters.

If you'd like more opinions, including mine, on subjects like fundamentalism and government/world affairs, you should check one of the many better-executed threads on the topic. This was a swing and a miss for you.

But keep trying.

[Ya Vez]

will they ever listen to Obama...

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama chastised fellow Democrats on Wednesday for failing to "acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people," and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.

"Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation. Context matters," the Illinois Democrat said in remarks prepared for delivery to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty.

"It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase `under God,'" he said. "Having voluntary student prayer groups using school property to meet should not be a threat, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats."

Obama, the only black in the Senate, drew national notice even before arriving in Congress last year, and has occasionally used his visibility to scold members of his own party. Widely sought as a fundraiser for other Democrats, Obama responded with a noncommittal laugh this spring when asked whether he wants a spot on the national ticket in 2008.