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    Well they have three needs right?

    1)Decent big who can rebound and do SOMETHING on offense

    2)A Long SF

    3)A Backup PG

    I doubt they can get all three. Speedy addresses #3 more strongly then anything else the Spurs would probably get at the other two areas. So it wouldn't be a huge risk provided Speedy holds up physically. But I guess we will see, maybe the Spurs can acquire a decent big or solid backup 3 all in one summer. But it is going to be tough just to fill 2/3 needs.

    1) It's probably hardest to get the decent big so that's where I'd likley put the money.

    2) I'd try to adress the long SF with Q Woods.

    3) See if Barry could get anything for a backup PG. If nto go with Pargo or the like.

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    Q. Woods is not going to be a Spur. SA has never had any patience for people with even a whiff of at ude or behavior problems during the Pop/Duncan era.

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    Speedy is a better on-the-ball defender than probably anyone the Spurs have in the backcourt at this time. , the dude was only a key contributor to our 2003 championship team. I hope the Spurs can get this done. If not, they should simply continue developing Beno and foucs on getting another "wing" athlete.

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    Where would the Spurs be today had they not signed NVE last offseason?

    I think they would have developed Beno and they might have won the series against Dallas, had Beno had a whole year playing good minutes.

    Signing aging PGs has not been beneficial historically. I have not given up on Beno.
    It looks like Pop HAS given up on Beno though. Beno seems like a very good backup PG because he can shoot the ball and run things pretty well. But Pop seems to have lost his confidence in him since his TO fest in the 05 finals. Pop probably doesn't trust him really, considering he let even an ice cold/injured NVE steal all the minutes.

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    Q. Woods is not going to be a Spur. SA has never had any patience for people with even a whiff of at ude or behavior problems during the Pop/Duncan era.
    You do realize Pop has already tried to get Woods, and after the Portland problems.

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    Beginning of the series Manu had trouble staying in front of Harris. End of the series he made him go to his left more which he can't do well, but Harris is not quicker than Speedy. I agree Terry isn't very fast, he gets to the lane because he is a very good shooter and you have to get up on him which makes it easier for him to go by you.
    1. Harris is quicker than Speedy.
    2. Everybody in a Maverick jersey was blowing by the Spurs, particularly at the beginning of the series. As they got used to not having shot blockers to funnel to, and as they came to terms with the fact that they were going to have to scramble and chase and hack and be out of position, they adjusted about as well as one could expect.
    3. If Pop completely overhauls the team philosophy in the middle of the playoffs again, Speedy Claxton isn't going to be enough for the Spurs to advance, but at least the rest of the team won't be caught completely off-guard by it.

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    It looks like Pop HAS given up on Beno though. Beno seems like a very good backup PG because he can shoot the ball and run things pretty well. But Pop seems to have lost his confidence in him since his TO fest in the 05 finals. Pop probably doesn't trust him really, considering he let even an ice cold/injured NVE steal all the minutes.
    I agree with you, but why they kept him on the ing roster all season is a complete goddamn mystery.

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    1. Harris is quicker than Speedy.
    2. Everybody in a Maverick jersey was blowing by the Spurs, particularly at the beginning of the series. As they got used to not having shot blockers to funnel to, and as they came to terms with the fact that they were going to have to scramble and chase and hack and be out of position, they adjusted about as well as one could expect.
    3. If Pop completely overhauls the team philosophy in the middle of the playoffs again, Speedy Claxton isn't going to be enough for the Spurs to advance, but at least the rest of the team won't be caught completely off-guard by it.

    1. No, he's not. Not even close.
    2. Yes, I agree it was eery to see the Spurs "D" up like the Suns. End of series was somewhat better though.
    3. We lost by one point. 1 more point in regulation we win. Speedy is plenty of a difference considering we lost by the bounce of a ball. Everybody acts like we are so far behind.

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    I think Speedy is quicker than Harris. But both are extremely fast.

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    I feel bad for Beno though, his rookie season he was given a huge task, as back up in the finals. Then he doesnt get much PT partly because of this. I dont think he has really had a chance other than being thrown out with the wolves.

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    Nikos is right too. What's the point of even having Beno around if you obviously have absolutely no confidence in him whatsoever?

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    Nikos is right too. What's the point of even having Beno around if you obviously have absolutely no confidence in him whatsoever?
    Thats true I just think his situation was unfair, I think he can be good in this league. Maybe another coach will do him some good. I really hope for Speedy though we surely missed him.

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    I feel bad for Beno though, his rookie season he was given a huge task, as back up in the finals. Then he doesnt get much PT partly because of this. I dont think he has really had a chance other than being thrown out with the wolves.
    Why wouldn't you expect a backup rookie point guard to be able to bring up the ball with no help from his teammates in the NBA finals against the best defense with their defensive specialist in the game at the end of the quarter?

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    Why wouldn't you expect a backup rookie point guard to be able to bring up the ball with no help from his teammates in the NBA finals against the best defense with their defensive specialist in the game at the end of the quarter?
    How about when he couldn't bring it up against Houston in the closing minutes of a meaningless game at the end of the regular season?

    I actually think that's the game that secured Beno's place on the bench during the playoffs this year.

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    Thats true I just think his situation was unfair, I think he can be good in this league. Maybe another coach will do him some good. I really hope for Speedy though we surely missed him.
    I've always thought he was a good back up point guard myself. I mean he is a backup, what are you expecting? Pop disagrees completely apparently. Beno is a little slow but so were/are Steve Kerr, John Paxson, and Jason Williams and teams won les with them playing important minutes.

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    Thats true I just think his situation was unfair, I think he can be good in this league. Maybe another coach will do him some good. I really hope for Speedy though we surely missed him.
    I keep waiting for Cleveland to trade for him. I thought they might have traded Gibson for him if Beno had gotten any chance to develop this year. As it stands, they have virtually the same NBA experience. The Cavs don't really need a PG that handles the ball every time up.

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    I've always thought he was a good back up point guard myself. I mean he is a backup, what are you expecting? Pop disagrees completely apparently. Beno is a little slow but so were/are Steve Kerr, John Paxson, and Jason Williams. Teams won les with them playing some minutes.
    Good point. Kerr was the backup PG for much of 2003.

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    spurs have to spend the full mle for backup point

    geez

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    Since we are not going to get Scola, Speedy is a good option with mle.

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    Speedy is back, I hope so Yupi!!

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    spurs have to spend the full mle for backup point

    geez
    What did you expect? You have to pay for talent.

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    thumbs for speedy gonzales

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    How about when he couldn't bring it up against Houston in the closing minutes of a meaningless game at the end of the regular season?

    I actually think that's the game that secured Beno's place on the bench during the playoffs this year.
    That makes sense. Beno had two turnovers in 27 minutes, which is just unacceptable.

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    Where would the Spurs be today had they not signed NVE last offseason?

    I think they would have developed Beno and they might have won the series against Dallas, had Beno had a whole year playing good minutes.

    Signing aging PGs has not been beneficial historically. I have not given up on Beno.
    First sensible comment I've read about the PG situation since the Game 7 loss. And almost everyone wants to get rid of him now. Seems y'all forget (and Pop, too) that Beno was doing quite well late in the season when NVE was resting his elbow for weeks on end. Unfortunately, he got hurt and never was put back in the rotation. Thanks go to Pop for sticking with an aging NVE in the Mavs series. Too bad NVE didn't reinjure that elbow. We'd be holding up trophy #4.

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    That makes sense. Beno had two turnovers in 27 minutes, which is just unacceptable.

    Yes, that was the last straw. He deserves to die.

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