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    Had this guy not ed other airmen's wives on the base, this woldn't have happened.

    And this attempted Clinton connection is weak. Show me the adultry law that applies to Presidents or STFU.

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    Had this guy not ed other airmen's wives on the base, this woldn't have happened.

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    Yeah, sorry I left the U out of wouldn't. Fact remains this was pretty brazen.

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    Yeah, sorry I left the U out of wouldn't. Fact remains this was pretty brazen.
    I think you probably already know this but I was joking about the obviousness of your point.

    I don't mess with peoples spelling, grammar or punctuation, that usually keeps them off my back about the same.

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    Sure, I was talking about the prosecution. Were it not airmen's wives or not being carried out on base fewer folks would care.

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    The President is head of the military...........
    but not IN the military. The system is purposely set up so that the commander in chief is a civillian. don't you guys have american history classes down there?

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    but not IN the military. The system is purposely set up so that the commander in chief is a civillian. don't you guys have american history classes down there?
    Youre asking a people who inhabit a state that still feels it should be an independant nation, yet has supplied three Presidents for the Union.

    Go figure.

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    WTC? That's a reach. You forgot the pentagon. Bill's fault too, you guess. Yep, clintons responsible for all terror acts. Even the olympics. Suicide attackers? Bill's idea.

    I've always wondered what Bill would have done if he knew those attacks were coming.

    Destruction and rape of women? Funny stuff zebra.
    No you forgot WTC 1993. But the 9/11 incident can be laid at his feet
    also. Remember the guy stuffing papers in his socks. Wonder why that
    was. You know Burglar. but just to satisfy you. WTC happen twice,
    the first time 1993. As far as I know Bush wasn't President was he. But
    guess you could blame him. And people did die in that act of terror.

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    But the 9/11 incident can be laid at his feet also.
    So Clinton was active military when he got a blowjob and still serving as President (and active military, one must presume) on September 11.

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    We caught those first guys. tisk,tisk. Intelligence does matter when you choose to accept it.(something george just can't do regarding anything).

    Please consult with nester before replying. You should include your flock.

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    Then maybe you should specify whether you think this particular case is justified or not.

    Should Clinton AND Lt. Kugel have been punished for adultery?

    Or should neither?
    The reasons for this being an offense in the military are obvious and, during wartime, very relevant.

    Anything a member of the armed forces does that compromises his integrity or makes him vulnerable to blackmail by anyone -- including enemy agents -- should be cause for concern and swift action.

    Same goes for the Commander in Chief. Add to the fact that he perjured himself, and suborned perjury by others, in an effort to deny Paula Jones her due process rights, and you have a pretty solid case against him.

    Too bad the Senate chickened out.

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    Same goes for the Commander in Chief.
    Show me the adultery statute for Presidents.

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    "nothing happens to him,"

    huh? He was humiliated, pilloried, and then ing impeached, but the Senate Repugs went flaccid.

    The Air Force officers are better than the rest of us and never dip their pens in forbidden ink? Right, keep believing their press releases. Hypocrits.

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    Show me the adultery statute for Presidents.
    Okay Chumpy, follow the bouncing cursor...

    Anything a member of the armed forces does that compromises his integrity or makes him vulnerable to blackmail by anyone -- including enemy agents -- should be cause for concern and swift action.

    Same goes for the Commander in Chief.
    First, note the use of the word "should." Second, I never mentioned the word adultery but proposed a broader idea that anything a military person or the President does that makes them vulnerable to blackmail should be cause for concern and swift action.

    The President's perjury and suborning perjury and obstruction of justice were the vehicles through which that swift action could have been exercised. But, alas, the Senate chickened out.

    Nice conclusion-jumping there.

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    Why was Clinton even asked about the blowjob?

    Was Starr appointed to investigate blowjobs?

    My conclusion is it was an enormous waste of time and money.

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    another repug proposing what should be. yipee

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    Why was Clinton even asked about the blowjob?
    To establish that he was engaged in sexual activity with women other than his wife (probably exclusive of his wife). It was relevant to the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Paula Jones.
    Was Starr appointed to investigate blowjobs?
    No, he was appointed to investigate the Whitewater scam. When he uncovered other potential law violations by the President, he took his information back to the three-judge panel, appointed by Janet Reno, who then ordered him to pursue the tangential investigation related to the President's perjury and obstruction of justice in the Paula Jones lawsuit.
    My conclusion is it was an enormous waste of time and money.
    That's my conclusion as well...particularly since he wasn't brought to justice and thrown out of office.

    Arkansas, on the other hand, saw fit to revoke his law license for the offenses.

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    another repug proposing what should be. yipee
    So, you think it's okay for a President to have skeletons in his closet that may be exploited by the enemy?

    Yeah, that's smart.

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    Zebra, let's examine your logic.

    Bush jr. in office, 911 clintons fault.
    Clinton in office, 93 WTC bombing bush sr. fault.

    I don't blame your logic. It's what you have been programmed to repeat.

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    Are you refering to an enemy that believes there are 40 virgins waiting for them after death?

    Please.

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    Are you refering to an enemy that believes there are 40 virgins waiting for them after death?

    Please.
    Any enemy.

    Maybe it's why Clinton was so free with our nuclear technology and gave most of our secrets to China.

    Maybe it's why he refused to bring Osama bin Laden to justice when he had the chance.

    Maybe it's why he was reluctant to do anything about global terrorism during his eight years in office.

    Who will ever know?

    And, I thought it was 72 virgins. Are they running short?

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    Well, thanks for admitting it was a fishing expedition.
    That's my conclusion as well...particularly since he wasn't brought to justice and thrown out of office.
    Too bad for you lying about a blowjob doesn't rise to the level of high crime or misdemeanor.

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    Zebra, let's examine your logic.

    Bush jr. in office, 911 clintons fault.
    Clinton in office, 93 WTC bombing bush sr. fault.

    I don't blame your logic. It's what you have been programmed to repeat.
    Actually, I blame all Presidents going back to Jimmy Carter who failed to obliterate the Iranian regime after they attacked the U.S. Embassy.

    I blame Ronald Reagan for not responding to the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon.

    I blame George H. W. Bush for agreeing not to continue on to Baghdad simply so he could operate out of Saudi Arabia.

    And, yes, I blame Clinton who failed to respond to the many opportunities to defeat global terrorism after the '93 bombing of the WTC and the '00 attack on the USS Cole.

    The current President is the first to adequately respond to Islamo-fascism.

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    Well, thanks for admitting it was a fishing expedition.Too bad for you lying about a blowjob doesn't rise to the level of high crime or misdemeanor.
    Actually the perjury he committed was a felony.

    Again, you misread. I never said it was a fishing expedition; only that it represented a waste of time because the Senate failed to convict.

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    Actually the perjury he committed was a felony.
    But not a high crime or misdemeanor, apparently. I guess you have the definietion for that one.
    Again, you misread. I never said it was a fishing expedition; only that it represented a waste of time because the Senate failed to convict.
    I completely understand you only think it's a waste of time because it didn't end up the way you wanted it to.

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