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    I don't need to make excuses for a talented, coachable player. Thanks for bowing out.
    Bill Parcells has a saying "you are what you are" like when people say we could have won this game or that game he says "You are what you are folks and that is a 6-10 Ballclub" well Jeffries is what he is a 6.1 career ppg scorer. Bowen is deadly from the corners so you have to guard him. Jeffries on "O" is like going 4 on 5. Maybe you didn't read this ESPN Insider analysis the first time:

    Jeffries discovered a role in his third NBA season, taking over as the Wizards' perimeter defensive stopper. Because he's 6-11 and has decent quickness, Jeffries proved a real headache for high-scoring small forwards. He also was among the Wizards' best help defenders, which is important on a team whose guards gamble so much.

    The downside is that he's still a huge stretch as a starter because he's so ineffective on offense. Jeffries averaged only 10 points per 40 minutes and couldn't take advantage of all the easy opportunities that Hughes and Arenas gave him because he is such a terrible finisher. The Wizards can live with him scoring infrequently, but they need him to convert a higher percentage of his shots to justify his presence in the lineup. With the arrival of Butler and Daniels, Jeffries is likely to be pushed into a reserve role this year, and that usage is more consistent with his talents.

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    They said the same things about Bowen when he first came to SA too you know quad.....


    But go ahead and find another long small forward out there that can play good D and is fit for the Spurs system like Jeffries.


    Waiting for names.

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    if this guy is a long small forward we should make him our top priority god damit

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    Bill Parcells has a saying "you are what you are" like when people say we could have won this game or that game he says "You are what you are folks and that is a 6-10 Ballclub" well Jeffries is what he is a 6.1 career ppg scorer. Bowen is deadly from the corners so you have to guard him. Jeffries on "O" is like going 4 on 5. Maybe you didn't read this ESPN Insider analysis the first time:

    Jeffries discovered a role in his third NBA season, taking over as the Wizards' perimeter defensive stopper. Because he's 6-11 and has decent quickness, Jeffries proved a real headache for high-scoring small forwards. He also was among the Wizards' best help defenders, which is important on a team whose guards gamble so much.

    The downside is that he's still a huge stretch as a starter because he's so ineffective on offense. Jeffries averaged only 10 points per 40 minutes and couldn't take advantage of all the easy opportunities that Hughes and Arenas gave him because he is such a terrible finisher. The Wizards can live with him scoring infrequently, but they need him to convert a higher percentage of his shots to justify his presence in the lineup. With the arrival of Butler and Daniels, Jeffries is likely to be pushed into a reserve role this year, and that usage is more consistent with his talents.

    I thought you weren't going to argue with us anymore. Don't you have an appointment to masturbate over ESPN's know-nothing basketball site?

    Please explain:

    Tony Parker 2004-2005 to Tony Parker 2005-2006
    Boris Diaw 2004-2005 to Boris Diaw 2005-2006

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    If Jeffries were a good enough offensive player to ease all of your concerns, he wouldn't be attainable by the MLE, but likely command twice as much only to be matched by the Wizards.

    No realistic option will come without flaws. Considering this year's FA class, I'd say he's a chance the Spurs would be lucky to take.

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    I thought you weren't going to argue with us anymore. Don't you have an appointment to masturbate over ESPN's know-nothing basketball site?
    Yeah I know, sorry now I'm done. I fell victim for your snide 3rd grade level comments. Mature comeback though^^.

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    If Jeffries were a good enough offensive player to ease all of your concerns, he wouldn't be attainable by the MLE, but likely command twice as much only to be matched by the Wizards.

    No realistic option will come without flaws. Considering this year's FA class, I'd say he's a chance the Spurs would be lucky to take.

    That's all I was saying, very poor offensive player. I'd rather we go for someone else. Someone asked his weaknesses I answered him.

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    If Jeffries were a good enough offensive player to ease all of your concerns, he wouldn't be attainable by the MLE, but likely command twice as much only to be matched by the Wizards.

    No realistic option will come without flaws. Considering this year's FA class, I'd say he's a chance the Spurs would be lucky to take.
    EXACTLY. When you have the MCE to offer, you have to settle for less than perfect, and look for future untapped possibilites.

    It's not like we're used to get\ting scoring in bunches from our 3 spot right now...

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    That's all I was saying.
    No you weren't. You said he was an option we should NOT consider.

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    What's the value of a player who allows you to defend teams with perimeter oriented bigs? If a player scores 15 a night but allows 25, well, that's not that great.

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    I never said that (although that is what I think) somebody asked me about his weaknesses I said he was very poor offensively (which is a fact) and you and TPark threw a hissy fit. So I responded.

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    I'd say he's a LOT more skilled than Bowen, offensively. His long ball isn't there yet, but then again, we have one of the premier shooting coaches in the game on our bench.
    I was about to say that but you already said it. He is better than Bowen offensively. His D is pretty good yet can improve.

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    Newsflash: Robert Horry's career average is 7.4 points. Low scoring players CAN contribute.

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    and you and TPark threw a hissy fit. So I responded.
    First off I didn't throw a "hissy fit"

    Quit your pouting.

    Second, I reacted because you don't want this guy WHATSOEVER.

    BAD defensively.


    I brought up Bowen being the same way when HE first came to SA, and having England the shooting coach would help out a million with his shot, wich isn't THAT bad.


    Yet you still cross your arms frown and bring up hissy fits and say NIET to freakin Jeffries just cause hes not a great offensive player.


    Once again,


    name the long 3's that are available, that you would like the Spurs to sign?

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    BAD defensively.
    Never said that.

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    name the long 3's that are available, that you would like the Spurs to sign?
    Tim Thomas: scratch
    Radmanovic: scratch

    Anyone else in the 6'10" neighborhood available?

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    buford, you better get this guy

    i think he's our best hope

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    Problem is, Jeffries isn't worth $30 mil over 5 years. He may just get that this summer.

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    Problem is, Jeffries isn't worth $30 mil over 5 years. He may just get that this summer.
    Is their a site that has a list of player salaries, not by team, but a list with the entire league?

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    Problem is, Jeffries isn't worth $30 mil over 5 years. He may just get that this summer.

    Amen to that : Jumaine Jones for $10M/3 years >>> Jeffries for $30M/5 years

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    Sixers Contact Jared Jeffries
    2nd July, 2006 - 8:53 am

    Allentown Morning Call - Sixers GM Billy King put in a call to the agent of Washington forward Jared Jeffries, a restricted free agent who has received a $2.776-million qualifying offer from the Wizards, according to the Allentown Morning Call.

    Because of cap considerations, Jeffries would have to be acquired via a sign-and-trade deal.

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    I like Jones, but he's a couple inches short of the "long" category and a couple of years older than Jeffries.
    As far as discount SFs go, my preferences would be:
    1a) Jeffries
    1b) Jones
    2) George
    3) others

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    I like Jones, but he's a couple inches short of the "long" category and a couple of years older than Jeffries.
    As far as discount SFs go, my preferences would be:
    1a) Jeffries
    1b) Jones
    2) George
    3) others
    I know the pickings aren't the best, but I've never been all that impressed with Devean George. Is there something you like about his game, or is this just a "something is better than nothing" thing?

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    Well, I think George is better than Harpring. He can shoot, and 4 rebs/20 mins is pretty good. Like I said, he's my third choice.

    I'm not in love with any of these guys games.

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    Devin George can shoot those spot up threes if that's the george yall are talking about.

    Although I hate him with a passion, I admit he would fit in good with us.

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