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    Equal pay is a "bidding war" ?

    Ummm, yeah. It would be a bidding war if both teams can offer "UP TO" the MLE. Good negotiators won't start off with their bottomline offer. So, in this example, if both the Spurs and Pistons were pursuing to sign Joel Przybilla, and both teams could only go as far as the MLE for five years, maybe the Spurs start off with a tender offer of $3.5 million per year for three years. Then the Pistons offer $4 million for four years. And, so on and so forth up to the max each team could offer if it's worth it to each respective team.

    Just because both teams can offer him the same pay, it doesn't mean each team will start off with that offer. Negotiations generally start off with preliminary offers to get things rolling. Now, there are plenty of instances and examples where there is only one offer which is fair to both sides and a deal is made. But, especially when teams are aware that other teams are also interested, NBA GMs will play the negotiating game. And, even if there is a ceiling to what a team can offer in terms of money, there can still be a bidding war.

    And, also, as I check, if the Pistons don't re-sign Ben Wallace and don't do a sign-and-trade, the Pistons will be under the cap. They possibly could offer Przybilla more money that the Spurs.

    I don't know if the Pistons would pursue Przybilla if they don't re-sign Ben. I merely suggest that it's a possibility, and they can offer similar things as the Spurs can offer him. The differences are minimal. Przybilla may very well prefer to play alongside Duncan and Parker or maybe live in San Antonio as opposed to Detroit or play for Pop instead of Flip. Again, I was merely suggesting that if Ben signs with the Bulls, that makes Detroit potential suitors for Przybilla as well.

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    And, also, as I check, if the Pistons don't re-sign Ben Wallace and don't do a sign-and-trade, the Pistons will be under the cap. They possibly could offer Przybilla more money that the Spurs.
    False, Pistons aren't far enough under the cap to offer more than the MLE to Pryzbilla.

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    the real remaining question is whether ben wants the money or another le
    so ben's choice is only between bulls and spurs?

    you don't think he might decided to stay with pistons
    or are you saying pistons might decided to pay him more than bulls

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    ben to bulls
    joel to spurs
    nazr to pistons

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    please remove your spurs affilation from your team field if you want pistons to win a le over the spurs

    Przys agent has already signed a wink wink under the table deal since he is the same agent as rasho. This has been reported by ducks here and avilable at spursreport I bet too.

    why do you think we traded rasho OUR ONLY STARTING CENTER to toronto for an old ageing star and a bonner a person that has no chance of starting and is slow. Tornoto a place that has a huge serbian? popul.ation and climiate more like his home country. Because rasho wanted to go there. and because przy wants to get out from the jail blazers to play with a contending team liek the spurs

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    No news yet. This is becoming too dramatic

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    i want the pistons to win the le next season
    Can't say I'm complaining, but aren't you a bigger fan of the spurs?

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    ben to bulls
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    nazr to pistons

    We better not go after Nazr ...

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    Sixers keen on Pistons' Ben Wallace

    Billy King contacted the player's agent, hoping to fill a big void with strong defense and rebounding.
    By Joe Juliano
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    http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sp...ll/14951409.htm

    Two of the 76ers' biggest deficiencies last season were defense and rebounding, so president and general manager Billy King went after the guy who is one of the best in the NBA in both areas.

    On the first day NBA teams could negotiate with free agents, King pulled a bit of a surprise yesterday and contacted the agent for Detroit Pistons center Ben Wallace, a four-time NBA defensive player of the year.

    King also called the representatives for the Sixers' three restricted free agents - John Salmons, Willie Green and Shavlik Randolph - as well as the agent for Washington Wizards swingman Jared Jeffries.

    The 6-foot-9 Wallace, who will turn 32 in September, appeared ready to return to the Pistons before they were eliminated in the NBA playoffs. But during the season, he hired Arn Tellem, one of the most high-powered agents in the league, known for aggressively finding the best deals for his clients.

    The Pistons are believed to be interested in signing Wallace for four years, with a salary starting at $11 million to $12 million. But another team may be interested in offering him a maximum deal of six years, with a salary beginning at $14 million or $15 million.

    The Sixers, who are over the salary cap, can obtain Wallace only in a sign-and-trade with the Pistons. The Chicago Bulls, who have room under the salary cap, are also looking into signing Wallace.

    Wallace averaged 11.3 rebounds (fifth in the NBA), 2.21 blocked shots and 1.8 steals last season.

    King tendered qualifying offers to Salmons, Green and Randolph on Thursday, meaning the Sixers will have the right to match any offer the players receive from another team. Salmons, if signed, could be used as a piece in a trade, but the Sixers seem to want Green and Randolph back.

    The versatile 6-11 Jeffries, who averaged 6.4 points and 4.9 rebounds in 77 games last season while earning a little less than $2.8 million, is a restricted free agent, meaning the Wizards can match any offer he receives.

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    A sign and trade w/ Philly? hmmm ... Iguodala? Dalembert? Not my ideal scenario ... but better than Ben going to Chicago and us getting nothing.

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    Give us Big Ben and well give you Ericka and Van Horn . You can extend our dynasty a little bit longer then 4-6 years with a deal like that.

    Choking and not winning anything does not cons ute a dynasty. The Mavs are well on their way to being the Minnesota Vikings of the NBA - all flash and no les. Talk the Talk then trip over yourselves.

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    I would take Dampier for Ben, though. He's better than anyone the Pistons could get in free agency.

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    pistons = dynasty
    bulls = dyansty
    boston = dyansty
    spurs = dynasty
    lakers= dynasty

    dallas = losers

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    Latest rumor is that ben will sign with Bulls and Pistons will get PJ Brown in a trade like that :
    Detroit trade Ben Wallace (S&T) for PJ Brown.
    Chicago trade Chandler + malik Allen for Ben Wallace + JR Smith
    Hornets trade PJ Brown + JR Smith for Chandler + Malik Allen

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    Latest rumor is that ben will sign with Bulls and Pistons will get PJ Brown in a trade like that :
    Detroit trade Ben Wallace (S&T) for PJ Brown.
    Chicago trade Chandler + malik Allen for Ben Wallace + JR Smith
    Hornets trade PJ Brown + JR Smith for Chandler + Malik Allen
    Doesn't look too good from the Piston's point of view.

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    you will quake in fear when the ian era arrives

    full NBA domination not seen since Mjordan was in the NBA

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    I will enjoy next season more then you will due to us being young and you having old role players rotting away on the bench. No one wants to trade with you either . We will be back to win our first le and win 4-6 more after that unless we land Ben which will be 7-8 les


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    Latest rumor is that ben will sign with Bulls and Pistons will get PJ Brown in a trade like that :
    Detroit trade Ben Wallace (S&T) for PJ Brown.
    Chicago trade Chandler + malik Allen for Ben Wallace + JR Smith
    Hornets trade PJ Brown + JR Smith for Chandler + Malik Allen
    Where did you see that?

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    latest rumor liek soem guy posted it on a bull forum? or a real news source like hoopshype/espn

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    Where did you see that?
    www.hornetsreport.com

    The guy reports too that hornets will sign Bobby Jackson

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    they might if they think pj brown is their best big option

    they already have a big dude in r wallace

    piston fans say they don't want nazr

    they have no shot at joel przy

    so if they lose ben wallace they defiently need a big to replace him

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    Doesn't look too good from the Piston's point of view.
    Ben Wallace is an unrestricted free agent. It's either nothing or PJ Brown for one year. They can get too JR Smith (I don't see Skiles being a fan of him).

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    hmm hornets sign bobby jackson
    I guess speedy is gone

    there are two great back up point guards and that is speedy and sacs bobby jackson

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    I think this is a true rumor

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    I do it if we can get a S&T of Speedy in the deal. Then we get our backup PG and temp. replacement center without touching the MLE.

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